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Jul 26, 2020 13:42:03   #
nicstr28 wrote:
Good info/post. What brand is the 88 motor?


Johnson 70 hp
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Jul 26, 2020 10:38:52   #
smitty wrote:
off the subject
3cs my brotherinlaw landed a 45 lb cat at lavon 2 weeks ago
that lake sure is full of interesting stuff; bream crappie bass several types o cats alligator gar [and gators] cottonmouth snakes and probably a lot more than i'm aware of
like to introduce you two


sent me contact information. as soon as this virus thing is over I would like to hook up with a fishing partner.
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Jul 26, 2020 10:34:46   #
Fuel problems

If you are having fuel problems with gas engines, I would suggest you take some or all of the following suggestions.

Ethanol is a bad dude !!. It attracts water and therefore it will cause problems either in the fuel tank or the carburetor. There are additives that help this problem but none are 100% effective. Gasoline with out ethanol is available in some areas but can be expensive. There is information on the internet on how to remove the ethanol from gasoline. I have tried it and it works. Takes a little while but well worth it.

Those of us who maintain older gasoline motors, have units that were not designed to use ethanol gasoline. Ethanol can cause older engines to burn valves seats. The newer engines I understand have valve seats that can withstand the higher temperature.

Older fuel lines were not designed to handle ethanol either. I have found out that the fuel lines that Attwood makes are not 100% effective against ethanol. Attwood has added a liner to their hose as a solution but even that sometimes fails. Check your fuel lines to make sure they have not deteriorated and creating partial or full blockage. Extra care must be taken when repairing the Attwood hose because the inner liner must fit over the fitting to assure proper flow.

Auto supply houses has a hose that is good for ethanol but it is not designed to with stand sun light as the Attwood hoses are. If the auto hose is exposed to sunlight in your usage be sure the check regularly
for signs of deterioration, especially cracks.

Use a pressure gauge to check output pressure from your fuel pump. Here again ethanol is not kind to the diaphragm in the fuel pump.

This for those of you who use the portable fuel tanks. The EPA required fuel connections that I purchased, don't recall brand name but bought at Walmart or Academy, proved not to be dependable on making proper connection each time. They are designed to prevent fuel spillage when disconnecting fuel lines. Sometime connection was good and sometime it would hinder fuel flow. For that reason I took the time to removed the fixed on board fuel tank from my pontoon and give it a through cleaning. It has permanent fitting. Collection of water and other crud was the reason I went to a portable tank in the past but now the on board tank if good.

I found out the above information while battling a problem with my motor. Motor would not reach max rpm. Some time it would reach 3/4 rpm for a short while and then fail as if it was out of fuel so I investigated the fuel system. As it turned out there were two problems: 1. the EPA fuel required portable fuel tank connection was not dependable and that caused the motor to reach 3/4 rpm and then die down because it was restricting fuel flow. ( After total rebuild of the fuel distribution system it still failed to reach max rpm, but did not slow because of fuel starvation.) 2. the real reason motor would not reach max rpm turned out to be bad reed plates. When I googled the problem on line I got all kinds of solutions. Timing, fuel distribution, plugs, coils, but not a mention of reed plates, if fact a few said it would not be reed plates. My advice is this. Remove silencer covers from front of carburetor and check for blow back. If you have blow back trough carburetor, then reed plates need to be inspected. My engine used three reed plates with six fingers on each reed plate. I found the out of the total 18 fingers 12 were not seating properly. They also cause excessive fuel consumption. Engine now runs great.

I forgot to mention that the engine is a 1988 model so I guess the reed plates had a reason to fail. I did the repair myself and total bill was less the $150. Reed plates were not as expensive as I expected, $106.99 for three reed plates, shipping and tax.

Before I decided spent the money on reed plates, I rechecked compression and found it to be within limits but still was hesitant to proceed so pulled head and inspected cylinders for any sign of damage but they were in good shape.

So total cost was reed plates, manifold gasket and head gasket.

I am posting this in hopes someone will benefit from my efforts. I know that I learned a great deal and I have been doing engine repair all my life but not as much on 2 cycle engines they are a breed of their own.

Thanks for reading. Any questions.
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Jul 26, 2020 07:10:50   #
plumbob wrote:
Seems like most of the regulars on here do what you are asking 3 C's. Is the guys who just jump on now and then that forget about the results notification. Can't see a solution other then finding the post and Pm them for an answer.


Tried that and it did not work. No response
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Jul 25, 2020 17:04:15   #
When a member post a problem or asks for advice can we get some feedback when problem is solved? All of us run into problems from time to time and ask for help and suggestions on solutions. I think it would be nice and helpful to other members to find out that the solutions was or what cause the problem so if we encounter it, we will have an idea how to proceed.

The most recent I can think of is "Motor went Poof'. There were several suggestions but have no idea what the problem turned out to be.
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Jul 25, 2020 16:56:11   #
RJS you had it easy working a rotary rig, you should have tried your hand as tool dresser on a cable rig. That sledge will develop some strong arms and legs.
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Jul 22, 2020 18:34:42   #
Glad to know why I am getting skunked
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Jul 18, 2020 16:36:37   #
bozokarl wrote:
That's why I go to Lowe's over Home Depot. The only time I go to HD is when there is no Lowe's around.


I shop Lowe's rather than Home Depot but I do not order from either after the first time. Both shores do not ship orders from their warehouse. First they generate a Purchase Order and it has to clear through headquarters before being sent to supplier. Once they do that they had lost all control on shipment because it is up to supplier to ship. I have talked to both store managers and they say they can't get it changed, so I don't order from either.
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Jul 18, 2020 16:27:27   #
revjwr40 wrote:
I'm picking a lot of tomato hornworms off my plants. Anybody tried using them as bait? Thanks for all the tips that have been shared. They've been a great help! Jack


I have used them a time or two and they are very tough and stay on the hook well. Catfish seem to like them here in Texas. I have not had any worms so far this year on my tomato plants.
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Jul 17, 2020 18:21:33   #
I agree, plastic rod or plastic straw would be a better choice but I have always used a pencil because that is the way my Dad taught me. Old habits are hard to break LOL
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Jul 17, 2020 17:05:45   #
Harris T. Fudpucker wrote:
I had just run back to pick up my fishing noodles. My motor was running great Yamaha 40hp. After putting them out in the morning, I ran up the bayou to fish a bit, between not catching a bunch, and the heat, I decided to run a bit futher and cool down at 30+mph. The friend I had with me, has problems getting in and out of the boat, and agrees with me most of the time. Altogether I ran maybe 5 miles. As I was coming back to the dock, it sounded like I hit something. So I went to idle, no problem, gave it some gas, and it felt like I was towing a tree. So I trimmed the motor up, nothing, dropped back down, and gave it some gas, it started it again at about 3mph. So I had about a half a mile to go at that speed. Have you ever have that happen? What might have caused this. I took the plugs out, nothing out of the ordinary.
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First of all I am not an expert outboard motor mechanic. I have read all post so far and here is what my approach to solving the problem would be.( I don't know about any senors so will not address that)

If it will not come up to rpm, I suspect the prop is okay.

1st. verify that flywheel has not spun causing motor to be mistimed. Remove number I spark plug and insert a pencil in opening and turn motor until the pencil does not move outward any more. Check the pointer on flywheel is pointing at the TDC symbol. It it isn't the shear pin in the flywheel as sheared and motor is out of time.

2nd verify that fuel is present at carburetors in volume enough to fuel carburetors. You can do this by checking the output pressure of the fuel pump. Don't know what Yamaha should be but I suspect around the same as OMC. Max is 2.5 pounds.

I have never experienced spark plugs and wires causing a motor to backfire through carburetors. Backfire is caused by improper timing.

3. If the motor is in fact having carburetors blown back rather that backfiring then the thing to check is the reed plates

Difference be backfiring and blow back is easy to determine which it is.

Backfiring usually has a sound as the gas is being ignited and some smoke.

Blow back will not necessary had a noticeable noise but you can feel the fuel spray at mouth of carburetors

I guess to sum it up. Backfiring is timing and Blow back is reed plates.

I hope this may help you in some way
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Jul 15, 2020 11:24:06   #
Robert J Samples wrote:
While a lot of people aren’t aware of East Texas folks and others are not even aware of East Texas, there are a lot of similarities between the Cajun folks in the swamps and bayous of Louisiana and the red neck folks of the bayous, thickets, and swamps of East Texas.

While it might bother others, it didn’t make a bit of difference to Roger and Peattie, not as long as they had their moonshine, coon dogs and the time to fish and go coon hunting, things were pert near perfect!

It had been raining for a solid two weeks and had caused the boys to languish at home, quite unhappy with the inactivity. Even their dogs were would let them know they were not happy either, saying in so many words, “What’s goin on? Get with the program and let us go hunting!” Now, mind you this was not in any recognizable language, but these dogs could and did communicate with their disgust at their inactivity.

Well, it finally stayed clear and calm for about a week, and so Roger and Peattie decided that nothing would do but to take their john boat, dogs, and go coon hunting since it had been too long since they had had a fun night in the bayous. So, they loaded the 14 foot john boat to the back of Roger’s pick up and the dogs, once allowed out knew their job, they ran around and jumped into the back of the truck without any call or command.

Now I cannot tell you just were this place is, because it is in the deepest, darkest part of the pine forest and with winding bayous all through the place, but also one where one might even encounter a panther, or even a bear, and certainly many other wild creatures. They have unloaded the boat just about dark, get in and are slowly drifting down the bayou and have not even started their small outboard motor. They were being quiet on purpose so they can hear any of their hounds who might sound out if they hit the scent trail of a coon, which was their quarry for the evening.

Roger, who is seated in the very back and who ordinarily runs the outboard motor, had affixed the alligator clips on the 12-volt battery that powered their spotlights. They continued to listen and finally one of the hounds sound off. Peattie said, “That’s ole Suzie, I think she’s on to a coon.” Directly, another hound sounds off but from a direction, and traveling away from the first dog’s voice. “Well, sounds like Jake disagrees, from what I hear.” Both guys agreed that they were hearing two different reports, perhaps they were both on different coons. Both men waited patiently since this often happened early in the night when they were just getting started.

They float on down the meandering bayou listening on the reports of the tracking dogs. Now there was nothing more from Jake, who had either given up and joined the others with Suzie, who was always considered to have a reliable nose and determined tracker. For a while now, there was no report at all. Then several all together were chiming in with a swelling crescendo and were headed back directly toward where they were.

Both men switched on their spotlights to see if they could catch a glimpse of what the dogs were trailing, and if possible, see whether it was a coon or something else. There had been reports of some bobcats being chased lately and this might be the night they would encounter one themselves.

The dogs were definitely getting closer and the suddenly, as their boat was passing under a large tree that had fallen partially over the stream, a big and agitated coon runs upon to the overhanging limb, and no more than a few seconds the lead dogs, with Suzie are on top of them too. The hounds are not able to climb the tree but do begin jump into the john boat and are barking in a loud chorus and attempting to jump up to take a bite of the coon just inches above Peattie’s cap.

In a flash, one of the hounds does manage to get a grip on the coon who then falls off the limb where it had sought shelter and it lands on Peattie’s head. Now the hounds are really baying, and all are trying to attack the animal at once.

Peattie is hollering, HOOOOE, GET IT Off, GET IT OFF! As this scene unfolds, Roger is laughing so hard he falls over backwards and knocks all the alligator clips off the battery, causing the entire scene to go black. While no one can see, it does not stop all the hounds from continuing to bellow at full voice, Peattie to scream, GET IT OFF, GET IT OFF ME! HOOEE! HELP ME, GET IT OFF!

Finally, Roger recovers enough to get the clips replaced and the lights back on, which gives the coon an opportunity to jump back upon the tree and run on across the narrow bayou and disappear into the night, with the hounds right behind it. Roger and Peattie never knew whether they were able to catch this coon or not. They assumed it had climbed a tall tree and thus escaped their hounds for good.

One never knows what you will encounter in the East Texas swamps and forests, Peattie, after recovering from his shock, and wiping the scratches on his face and neck with a handkerchief said, “Well, I am just glad it wasn’t a bobcat or a bear!
Just Sayin
RJS
While a lot of people aren’t aware of East Texas f... (show quote)


Coons and water can get interesting. My uncle hunted with collars on his dogs until the following happened. Dogs ran a coon into a hole of waist deep water in the creek. It was a large bore coon and he was using the dogs collars to put their heads under water. Uncle waded in to help the dogs from drowning and the coon decided to use him as a escape out of the reach of the dogs. He looked like he had been drug through a brier patch when it was all over. That was the last time he left the collars on the dogs, we would put the collars back on after the coon was treed. Lesson hard earned.
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Jul 15, 2020 10:41:26   #
threeCs wrote:
I purchase a tub of this bait but do not think that was a good idea. I have tried to use it three times now and this is what I found out.

I used tubes to pack the bait into. I guess if a fish bite within a couple of minutes it would be okay. It dissolves after a short time in the water. Even drying off the tubes before trying to load them again it is nearly impossible to reload them.


I have not tried it yet with sponges but will try that otherwise I might as well throw it away.

If anyone has used it and like it please clue me in on how to use it.
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UPDATE 7/15/2020

I posted this awhile back and looked at suggestions and appreciate the inputs. I never did get around to using sponges instead of tubes.

I don't know if you would call this a dip or punch mixture. Seems to thick for dip and to thin for punch. It does separate easily and has to be stirred often in warm weather.

I took a portion and mixed cornmeal into so it became a dough bait. Tends to be easily crumbled with just cornmeal.

I took another portion and mixed equal parts of cornmeal and flour. This made a nice dough bait. Has good body.

I places both portions in water for water test. The cornmeal one held up better than I expected. The cornmeal/flour held up better. Both seem to would stay on the hook when using but have not tried them when actually fishing.

I am going to mix the remaining portion with the cornmeal and flour combination. I will add some drained minced garlic to the mixture. Garlic is always good, RIGHT.

If fish will take it I may purchase this product again, time will tell. I will post again after having a chance to fish with it.

The product in its original form did not work for me.
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Jul 11, 2020 15:09:33   #
FourchonLa. wrote:
If they look like the ones I just saw online, wrap them with some window screen and mix some chopped hay. It will swell and slow the bait dissolving too quickly.


That is worth a try thanks
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Jul 11, 2020 15:07:19   #
flyguy wrote:
Could it be that the fisherman has been caught, again?


Sure seems that way đŸ€Ș
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