EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro

Last one was a Dodge club cab 1ton 4x4 dually cummins 200k worked it hard never had a problem with it, son took it over when I got the ford.

The one I have now will be my last.

stuco Loc: Northern Utah - Salt Lake City

Here’s to both of us driving ‘em for many years to come!

EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro

Been there done that and here we are.

LOL

Ivey Loc: South Central Tennessee, Tim's Ford Lake

What if they run out of gas, same situation, when in a traffic jam I normally turn the engine off anyway. There a lot of if's and but's to go along with electric vehicles, just like there was when gas powered engines came out. We worked thru the issues with gas, we'll work thru the issues with electric. When I replace one of my vehicles I'll defiantly go with electric, lower maintenance, no gas costs, no oil changes gotta come out cheeper in the long run. Plus almost every car company has announced they're going electric. I'll keep my gas power until they need replacing but tax incentives make them look better every day.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Have you done much research on the electric car reliability? I’ve done very little so just curious. What I’ve found so far is battery replacement is an average cost of $5500.00. Some batteries will last up to 8 years and have limited warranties. They lose charging ability at the rate of 2.3 percent per year which is not part of the replacement warranties in most cases. They’re lithium ion batteries like most electronic devices like cell phones only much bigger obviously. They’ve developed electric, small, cars that have a 226 mile range on a single charge and will charge back up in about an hour. That’s a new car with a new battery before normal degradation. I haven’t been able to find anything about how fast the batteries wear down. All I see is “under normal use” but I can find what normal use is. I’d bet pulling a boat doesn’t fall under normal use. Lol.

Ivey Loc: South Central Tennessee, Tim's Ford Lake

The technology of the LI batteries are improving every day with life expectancy of 10 to 20 years depending on amount of usage . The new Ford Lightning pickup is on the F150 frame with an electric motor that delivers an equivalent of 563 Horse power that has a 10,000 pounds towing capability and 2,000 pounds of payload capacity. The execration is crazy with all that power available at an instant. on a full charge the truck is expected to get up to 300 miles on one charge and that same full charge can power your home during a power outage for up to 3 days normal use and 10 at reserved use. The only drawback I can find is the 80 AMP charging station but like my home I've got a 200 AMP panel and only 100AMPS are in use so I could easily hook it right up. They also come with a portable 30AMP charge station for when you aren't at home. I've never been a Ford guy but This truck interests me very much. at a starting price of $39,000 and up. With no gas expenses and no engine maintenance they are that much more interesting. Add a solar array to charge these vehicles and the long term price comes way down. My Silverado still has a good many miles left on it but when it goes I will defiantly look much harder into one or a Chevy by then.

From what I've read the normal use thing is 120 or less miles a day average, my wife has a friend with a chevy volt that she drives 72 miles one way to work every day and she loves it.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Gotcha. Thanks. I’ve got a feeling that, not so far in the future, we’ll all be researching the issue, walking or riding a horse again. We have 3 horses and a mule so at least we won’t be stranded. Lol

audigger53 Loc: Severn, MD

Here's my thoughts on this.
1) It is both for people control and "the Envirement/EPA".
2) the Electric grid can't handle everyone going to electric cars. Doubt that?
Rolling Black outs in Calif.
The power outage in Texas this winter.
What ever happened to Natural Gas for fuel for cars and trucks? It was done back in the 70's by both Bus and trucks that belonged to the natural gas companies in Maryland and even DC. I saw them myself. Clean fuel.

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

Good question... They were running some of our "city busses" on natural gas, within the past 20 years, for sure... Not sure if any are still on the road here, or not... Natural gas DOES seem to be something that I've not heard anyone worrying about "running out of"; although, sooner or later...

DC Loc: Washington state

as I was filling up my car with boat in tow I had this thought at costco it took me maybe a total of 5 min to fill my tank and drive off with enough for another 400 miles. now lets say we are able to convert every gas pump into a charging station where each car needs to be recharged every 250 miles or so. now instead of stopping once every 400miles I have to stop twice which means more people wanting to charge up their cars but instead of 5 min it will take what 30min for a fast charge so in the same time frame which means much much longer lines and much much longer wait at each charging station. Talk about long lines. How exactly will this work? So I drive up to costco and the lines have twice the number of people with 6 times the wait so instead of 2 cars ahead of me for the pump I will have 4 and instead of 5 min per car I will have 30 min which means instead of 15 min total wait and fill I will have 2 and a half hour total time . by the way the cheaper cost to charge vs fill up with gas is just an illusion that will go away as demand rises and availability of electricity falls the price will go up and soon they will start charging electric cars all the taxes that are now charged on a gallon of gas, you really don't thing the governmental officials will let the money collected from gas tax go uncollected just because we have t***sitioned to electric do you.

EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro

Well put DC.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

The average mileage for a vehicle now is 20,000 miles per year. If it costs $7.00 per 150 miles, which is standard calculation now, that equates to around $940.00/year. My pickup gets 32 mpg average. That equates to $1675.00/year for gas at $3.00/gallon. That’s a two wheel drive ford Ranger. A new Ford Ranger costs $24,547.00 equipped like mine. The average electric car price is between $30,000.00 and $40,000.00. Bottom end there’s $6,000.00 right off the bat I’d pay for an electric car over a ranger pickup and I can haul things in the back of a pickup. Divide the cost difference in fuel vs electricity and I’m still ahead the first year by $5500.00. My Ranger depreciates 34% in the first 5 years. An electric vehicle depreciates 52% in the same time period. I’ve replaced the alternator in my pickup once since 1997, $43.00. Outside of regular maintenance every 3000 miles at $39.00 per time I’ve done nothing to it in 23 years. Tires and two new batteries is it. An electric car will go through tires so that’s a wash. Wheel bearings need service so greasing is a wash. I’ve spent $270.00 in 23 years for batteries. A battery for an electric car is $5500.00. I’ve heard the batteries are good for 10 to 15 years. Way ahead on battery purchases so far with my gas rig. The electric motors require cooling oil and the t***smissions in electric cars require t***smission fluid. Service interval are further apart with electric vehicles but the service, itself is more expensive. It’s a toss up cost wise so far according to any research I’ve done and info I’ve received from folks. I’ll be driving my gas rigs until they just don’t allow it any longer. Then I’m not sure what I’ll do.kinda thinking, at 65, I might not have to worry too much about it.

Ivey Loc: South Central Tennessee, Tim's Ford Lake

Hydrogen is the better solution, when Hydrogen burns the by product is H2O or water. Some long haul trucks are going this way now. there's a hydrogen pumping station close to me and there's always a few trucks there. No diesel smell or harmful by product. This would seem to be the best option for internal combustion engine in the future. Natural gas if isn't completely burned, hard to do in a combustion engine, the by product is Carbon (C) or, Graphite and/or Carbon Monoxide (CO). This is the main reason for the drop off of auto makers adapting to natural gas.
Auto makers are realizing the problems caused by these gases and trying to move away from them for this reason. A hybrid Hydrogen, electric is the best solution I can see but no big money industry behind that idea.

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

¿Have they "worked out" all "good safety protocols"? ... (It's my understanding that Der Hindenburg was slam full of hydrogen.) ... Of course; if gasoline WAS lighter than air, and they'd have filled it with THAT... There still would have been a real-live mess in New Jersey, THAT day!

DC Loc: Washington state

Ivey I had been wondering what ever happened to the Hydrogen cars. several years ago I heard something about iceland going to hydrogen cars but haven't heard much since. Again I think the problem is the production of hydrogen. if it takes electricity to break the hydrogen out of water again where are we getting the electricity. Of course if we had a nuclear plant next to the ocean I guess we could produce hydrogen fairly cheaply but the chances of having any new nuclear plants in the present environment is slim to non just a little better than having nuclear powered cars to drive or generators at our homes. While I like the idea of hydrogen cars practically natural gas would be the way to go. But I'm thinking we might as well just stick to gas after all if the world is going to end in 12 years (maybe 10.5 now) why worry about using gas now.