Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

Well, thanks for that "link"; DC; but, before I could find what I was looking for, I got "roped into" a "satisfaction (/ the website) survey" y after growing tired of answering questions about a website that I hadn't gotten a chance to "test-drive" properly, I "bailed on 'em"... I'll go back to it, after a while y try again.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

I, personally, would not consider information from organizations and people who have said things both ways and can’t make up their mind what should or should not be done to be facts. I.E. the CDC, NIH, WHO and Doctor Fauci who have ALL said things one way and then the opposite, several times. I would DEFINITELY not take anything as “fact” coming from our current administration. They were not, legally, elected to begin with (and yes it’s been proven) the guy in charge don’t even know he is. That leaves us with dealing with opinions because the real facts are not available to most. I have to go by what I know from experience and what people tell me who I know and trust. My aunt passed away shortly after being fully vaccinated after we all tried to convince her not to. Her death was labeled complications of covid19. She tested negative for covid19 prior to the vaccinations so I’m not sure it was covid she died from and neither are any of my family members. There are no “facts” in her case. Not old, not unhealthy, took the advice of a friend and now she’s gone. The only “fact” is she died but nobody can say why. Coroners report indicates she had a reaction to the vaccine but cause of death? “Covid19”

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

I'm so saddened, to learn of your loss here, this morning; Ch. ... I have been doing more and more "digging around" on the www.; in search of reality, regarding: ¿What's The Actual Facts?, pertaining to all of what has been going on.
I remain UNvaccinated... I am becoming more and more convinced, that "the Powers that BE" are treating us all as if we were mushrooms. (Keeping us in the dark and feeding us nothing but B.S.!!!)

JimRed Loc: Coastal New Jersey, Belmar area

"I am 99.9+% sure that I had "a dose of this bug", over a year ago..."

Not tested to confirm it?

When my wife and I each had flu-like symptoms last November we were tested and found to be infected. We treated it like we would a flu and recovered. I assume that we have the natural immunity that results. She got vaxxed anyway; I will not.

The vaccine has been causing cardiac inflammation to some patients. Since I've been under treatment for recurring fibrillation, having had an ablation procedure a couple of weeks ago, there is more risk to me taking it than avoiding it.

I'm getting quite fed up with the VacciNazis calling me selfish.

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

Well, JimRed; I certainly have been "nasal-swabbed" more than once, since I recovered from being very sick. Nobody has given notice about me being contagious... I've been feeling rather "normal" for many months, other than unrelated problems.
I have asked 2 different doctors, if I could be tested for "antibodies" and got "ambiguous answers", with no "orders for blood work"...
I'm hoping to get some sort of PROOF that, either I AM immune, or am NOT, and SOON.
I plan to start making phone calls about getting "tested for immunity" sometime > 9am, tomorrow.
I have had an adverse reaction to a vaccine of 1 sort or another, some years ago, and there ARE restrictions in my medical records, saying that I should NOT be injected with anything containing certain ingredients.
Yes, I would VERY MUCH like to confirm, that I HAD in fact recovered from this crap already (which is what I strongly suspect) or NO; and, if "no" I reckon I'll ask about them ✓✓ing against my "known allergies" and speak again with my G.P., just to be sure, because the last time I asked him if I should get vaccinated, he just stared at my chart and "shook his head 'No'..."

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Thank you. It was a month or so ago but not a good thing. She was deathly ill for a short period and just didn’t pull through.
Pharmaceutical holocaust and they’re getting lots of takers. I hope it’s not true but it appears there’s a fox in the hen house for sure. Many choose to not believe, many are just doing what they think is the right thing to do, which I completely respect and many are just followers without a clue. My mother-in-law got fully vaccinated. When my wife asked her why she did her response was “it’s the law now” and she really thinks it is but has no real clue. My wife said “ no Mom it’s not the law now. Where did you hear that? Her mother said “it’s all over the news haven’t you been watching the news?” 😬

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

You and me both. I never tell anyone they’re inconsiderate and selfish because they did what THEY chose to do and with no concrete evidence with the vaccine I don’t understand why I’m the selfish one. A gentleman accused me of being selfish and putting myself ahead of my family, friends and all vaccinated people because I’m not vaccinated and don’t plan to be. I guess I don’t understand what makes them feel like they are the only right ones if they believe everyone should be vaccinated for covid19. It doesn’t guard against the delta variant, it does keep them from contracting covid19 and it doesn’t keep them from spreading it. One gentleman on here even said “let all the unvaccinated die off so the rest of us responsible people can have a normal life”. I’d call THAT selfish. People have not been vaccinated long enough to even know if the vaccine works or not and in some cases it’s a lethal injection. I wonder what they have to say to those people. I know what one would say because he’s said it to me, personally, many times. He’s right, I’m wrong and that’s all there is to it and he doesn’t even know me. The people calling you selfish will also tell you they are true patriots to this country. An American patriot will not put down people for their choices. Many do though and they are far from American patriots when they do that.

DC Loc: Washington state

I had covid and paid the $10 in our state to test for the antibodies but here is the thing you have to have that test with in a couple month of having covid or it will not show antibodies which does not mean you are "immune" even though the long term immunity is "T cell" immunity which the antibodies test does not show and this is really the immunity that counts. From what I have gathered natural immunity that one gets from actually having had covid is longer lasting and better than the immunity from vaccines how ever neither really is true immunity in both cases you can still get covid in some form it is just that your body now has the T Cell memory that allows it to fight off the virus which results in a much milder case if you do come down with it. This by the way is why all the kids getting covid (d) most of which are asymptomatic or causes very little problems in not necessarily a bad thing it will allow them to build up the T Cell immunity while they are at the age where they are at very little risk of complications from the virus

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

¿Are you referring to the same "T-cells" that used to be "bandied about", during discussions about HIV-AIDS?

DC Loc: Washington state

sorry I am not failure with with the HIC-AIDS discussions referring to T-Cells but here is a definition I got from the web if you actually go to the site there is more detailed discussion on it
https://askabiologist.asu.edu/t-cell
Feb 16, 2011 · T-cells are a type of white blood cell that work with macrophages. Unlike macrophages that can attack any invading cell or virus, each T-cell can fight only one type of virus. You might think this means macrophages are stronger than T-cells, but they aren’t.

Truckintom Loc: DAYTONA BEACH

Just a thought: There would be x number of people that have a disease,such as typhoid, measles,small pox,chicken pox, monkey pox, or a hundred other mostly preventable diseases.Do these people have the right to spread these diseases to the the rest of the population.The answer is no, absolutely NOT.Are their rights being violated? We have laws about killing people,wether with guns,or weapons,. How many on here have caught a cold ?They know this virus has the capability to be air borne, and can travel great distances on particulate matter in the air.If you were being tear gassed and had a gas mask 😷 n your possession would you put it on or just keep breathing in the tear gas? Breathing air is a good thing,not getting oxygen into your blood through your lungs is a death sentence. And I still would like to know why anyone would dismantle all existing pandemic response teams in the United States of America? Clue-- It had nothing to do with protecting the U.S.

DC Loc: Washington state

of course what is a right and what is moral choice are two different things also knowing you are spreading and not knowing you are spreading are also two different things. Does the government have the right to take away someone's right because they suspect they may at some point get infected with a virus or may be asymptomatic and may spread a virus they don't even know they have and it has been proven they are very unlikely to spread it if they are asymptomatic? Should the government mandate all people get vaccinated when it is known the natural immunity that one has if they have already have had covid is better than what they would get from the vaccine there fore it is not beneficial and could even be more harmful than good? Should our children who are at very very low risk of any serious effects of covid be required to be vaccinated before going to school even though there are known risks to them of being vaccinated? The point is this whole question is not as simple as there is a person who has a virus and is spreading it so lets take away their rights and make them stay home.

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

¡Thank you so much, for the link!

Truckintom Loc: DAYTONA BEACH

I do not think that anything about this COVID-19 pandemic is simple , I think no matter what the whole planet will be infected eventually,I in no way would want this,the world has many problems,none of which will be solved by ignoring it,only thru science, education ,and a true understanding of it and many more in our future. This virus can mutate much faster than many on record. And it mutated faster in a host that has not had the vaccine. I hope for All to be healthy and free.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

What is your opinion on those who are fully vaccinated and still contracting, spreading the virus and dying from covid19?