Every see someone busted without a fishing license? (Page 3): Ahh. Fredfish. First Statist response congratulations! thank you for exposing yourself as a rat/snitch and perpetuating...

Frankie 5 Angels

Ahh. Fredfish. First Statist response congratulations! thank you for exposing yourself as a rat/snitch and perpetuating the Karen/Darren phenomena. Please allow me to correct you on the following:
To fill your belly and satisfy the hunger of your families is a GOD GIVEN right, not a “privilege” to pay a fee to the State for. It is Liberty. Secondly, the common fisherman isn’t poaching” in any way shape or form. I don’t see anyone with 5 sturgeons in their boat selling caviar ok? Secondly, i stand by my original post that says we are perfectly capable of policing ourselves through fisherman fellowship. And yes, sorry to burst your bubble, but speaking as a NJ/PA fisherman, I can assure you that obtaining a fishing “license” is an absolute racquet top to bottom.
Lastly, case law has determined a long time ago that a right (liberty) shall not be incurred a fee. See Murdoch vs. Pennsylvania 319 us 105 and also Shuttlesworth v City of Birmingham Alabama 373 us 262.

Jeremy Loc: America

I remember a person someone I knew brought fishing before. Had same attitude and the Cops then just watched us until we went home weather on bank or boat. To each his own. No one with that way of thinking will be on any of my boats. Pure trouble looking for a place to happen.

Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.

Frankie 5 Angels wrote:

Ahh. Fredfish. First Statist response congratulat... (show quote)

So Frankie, who do you think pays to run the Hatcheries that raise the fish you poach? Answer the question!

Frankie 5 Angels

Hatcheries? I don’t remember asking for, or v****g for these “hatcheries” that mostly stock ultra-fragile gmo rainbow trout into the ecosystem. Hey, i think it’s great that grandfathers fathers and sons can go out on opening day and have a go at it. Myself personally have no interest in stocked fish. I do not see the necessity of hatcheries overall. But please, by all means, pay your fees and lick those boots.

Graywulff Loc: Cortez,Co.

Frankie 5 Angels wrote:

Ahh. Fredfish. First Statist response congratulat... (show quote)

You have the right to fish without a license. You have the right to drive without a license. You have the right to do business without a license, and when you are found to be in violation of the laws you have the right to remain silent!!

Frankie 5 Angels

don’t you care that your God-given rights not to mention your 4th Amendment goes out the window as far as Fish and Game?

Frankie 5 Angels

PAPERS PLEASE!!

Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.

Frankie 5 Angels wrote:

Hatcheries? I don’t remember asking for, or v****g for these “hatcheries” that mostly stock ultra-fragile gmo rainbow trout into the ecosystem. Hey, i think it’s great that grandfathers fathers and sons can go out on opening day and have a go at it. Myself personally have no interest in stocked fish. I do not see the necessity of hatcheries overall. But please, by all means, pay your fees and lick those boots.

Here we stock Trout, Channel Catfish, Walleye, and Northern Pike. All 100%paid for with License fees. If you're going to talk about something you know nothing about, why don't you take it somewhere where your kind hangout.

Frankie 5 Angels

WOW!. Control freaks coming out in force! No way can they handle a difference of opinion. Behold the Statist mindset. Forget the homeless mexican guys just trying to bring a catfish home to eat.
If they passed a law that said you cant eat a bologna sandwich with mustard on thursdays, they’d be the first ones to fall in line, rat everybody out and say yes sir may i have another. It really is the Karen/Darren phenomena.

captjim Loc: Antioch Ca

Frankie 5 Angels wrote:

don’t you care that your God-given rights not to mention your 4th Amendment goes out the window as far as Fish and Game?

Frankie,

I had a fellow on my boat that was here from the Philippines. He told me how they have fishing regulations there but nobody follows them. He even said that it is illegal to have explosives but not illegal to blow-up fish. Needless to say the fishing on shore is horrible, no fish to catch. You have to be a minimum of 50 miles offshore to start finding fish. So Frankie, this generation of fisherman using subsistence methods, do they have a God given right to fish out the waters? Did God give them the right to ruin fishing for every one else to feed themselves? I don't think so. Using "God given right" as an excuse to leave a barren wasteland of water behind you is just a cop-out. If you don't want to follow the law that is your choice, but be ready and willing to pay the consequences. I don't think God gave you permission to fish without a license.
I don't think there is a single person on this forum that is buying your "God given right" routine.

Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.

Frankie 5 Angels wrote:

WOW!. Control freaks coming out in force! No way can they handle a difference of opinion. Behold the Statist mindset. Forget the homeless mexican guys just trying to bring a catfish home to eat.
If they passed a law that said you cant eat a bologna sandwich with mustard on thursdays, they’d be the first ones to fall in line, rat everybody out and say yes sir may i have another. It really is the Karen/Darren phenomena.

You have a right to eat. You don't have a right to walk into a store and steal food. You also don't have right to jump a fence and steal from a farmer, or k**l any animal you want to eat meat. This country was founded on the rule of law. There are millions of poor people fed every day by the generosity of those of us who support themselves. Not only hear but around the world. If people are too proud to accept help, they should get a job and support themselves, not steal from those who paid for it.
Without proper management, there would be no fish to catch, and then what would they do?

Frankie 5 Angels

Of course not, because they’ve replaced God with government. Do you really believe that purchasing a fishing license is a rightful duty under law, and without one somehow, fishing will be ruined for future generations? And that hatcheries somehow help the ecosystem? and that armed enforcers are a necessity to ensure environmental regulations amongst the common fisherman? Then i suggest you have a cookie because you’re obviously delirious. Also, if you are of the mindset that feeding oneself and his family is not a “God-given” INALIENABLE right, then i certainly feel sorry for you and whomever has the misfortune of fishing in your vicinity. I’m sure you would have no problem taxing the herons, egrets, ospreys, and cormorants that might take what you deem regulatory. Try not to call the cops on some old man with a few perch on his stringer. Have a nice day.

Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.

Frankie 5 Angels wrote:

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As captain Jim pointed out, there are many places around the world where all the native fish are wiped out, both in freshwater and the oceans. There are too many people in the world to rely on only wild fish and game to feed them. If these species were not protected and replenished, they would be gone. It's happened in the past, and will continue if left unchecked. Don't hide behind God to support your selfish beliefs.

Frankie 5 Angels

Again, thank you sir. for providing yet another example of the typical Statist mindset. Always using phrases such as “rule of law” “management” etc. These are the control freaks. They will throw the usual illogical comparisons at you like “you can’t just walk into a store and take food.” argument. zero compassion. zero understanding of the concept of Liberty. They love being controlled and regulated. They love to control others. I would welcome you to the Trenton, NJ Delaware river and or the Schuk**l river in Philadelphia, and ask all the bank fishermen for their papers giving them permission to do so, then sternly lecture them about the importance of obtaining a fishing license, and how otherwise they are mere poachers and criminals.

captjim Loc: Antioch Ca

If everybody had the "God given right" approach of Frankie, there would soon be no fish for any one to catch. How many here think ol' Frankie would be the first complaining that the state did not do their job of keeping fish stocks up