Panfish attic.
I'm not sure about panfish in Florida but in Virginia and North Carolina I like to use a flyrod with a Mcginty fly. Have caught some really nice bluegill this way. I suspect the panfish would grow larger in Florida, would like to try it sometime. Have fun fishing.
[quote=HenryG]Are there any left in the body of water your fishing? Wow what a catch๐บ๐ธ๐๐[/quote
Like the Keebler Elves, "they'll make more" harvesting blugills just lets the ones left grow faster. The BEST bluegill ponds are the ones with a large bass population. The bass eat most of the small bluegill allowing the rest to grow to decent size. If you put only bluegill in a new pond, (no bass or other predators, you wind up with a pond full of 3 inch bluegill that will never grow larger. So heat up the grease and enjoy!
HenryG
Loc: Falmouth Cape Cod Massachusetts
[quote=NorthMoccasin][quote=HenryG]Are there any left in the body of water your fishing? Wow what a catch๐บ๐ธ๐๐[/quote
Like the Keebler Elves, "they'll make more" harvesting blugills just lets the ones left grow faster. The BEST bluegill ponds are the ones with a large bass population. The bass eat most of the small bluegill allowing the rest to grow to decent size. If you put only bluegill in a new pond, (no bass or other predators, you wind up with a pond full of 3 inch bluegill that will never grow larger. So heat up the grease and enjoy![/quote]
How big are the bass in that pond NM?๐บ๐ธ๐ฃ
A few years ago I had a fisheries outfit electroshock and check the PH etc. of a pond on my property. The pond is about 12 acres and 65 years old. Ultimately there turned out to be an excess of skinny bass and high PH.
I added some thousands of โCoppernose Bluegill โ. I gather their a number of varieties and hybrid โbreamโ.
Doesnt seem to matter, just need a large number of hungry bass. The bass will not grow fast or attain large size on average under those conditiond, but if you want big bluegill, thats the tradeoff you have to make. My poin was that harvesting bluegill will not deplete the population. With heavy fishing pressure You CAN harvest most of the larger bluegill during a fishing season, but by next seaon growth of smaller fish will replace the ones you ate. A population of small bluegill is usually due to too many fish in the population tesulting in slow growth. Food is the limiting factor 99% of the time, not the number of "breeders" in the population.
HenryG wrote:
Are there any left in the body of water your fishing? Wow what a catch๐บ๐ธ๐๐
Oh yes!!! Our state biologist checks the lake every couple of years and it is on his recommendation as to what we remove species and size wise. I have one fisherman that caught 1425 bass this past year. He cleaned 888 of them that were under 12", released 421 over 12", and trashed 116 very small fish. He averaged 22 fish caught per outing.
62.2% cleaned
29.6% released
8.2% trashed
We try to monitor things pretty close and we are definitely seeing larger fish being caught due to this process. We have been working on this for 20 plus years and it looks like the recommendation is working.
MAS fish
NorthMoccasin wrote:
Doesnt seem to matter, just need a large number of hungry bass. The bass will not grow fast or attain large size on average under those conditiond, but if you want big bluegill, thats the tradeoff you have to make. My poin was that harvesting bluegill will not deplete the population. With heavy fishing pressure You CAN harvest most of the larger bluegill during a fishing season, but by next seaon growth of smaller fish will replace the ones you ate. A population of small bluegill is usually due to too many fish in the population tesulting in slow growth. Food is the limiting factor 99% of the time, not the number of "breeders" in the population.
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At the time the electroshock was done, all the recovered bass were removed It was recommended we remove all bass caught for the next year and no Bream. Also added were a number of grass carp to reduce algie/weed problems. Also what looked like a small mountain of lime was added to adjust PH.
The program seems to have worked, as over the past couple of years I have caught several bass in the 7-10 pound range and numbers of quite large bream. On occasion the dorsal fin and tail of large carp can be observed. Supposedly the carp do not reproduce.
Spiritof27 wrote:
They're all perch in California too, which is really odd because there are no perch to speak of here. I know all this, I just like people to explain it to me to see where they're coming from. And I really wanted to know why he said bream and bluegills in the same sentence. Kinda like saying you like to fish for trout and rainbows. I'd like him to explain the difference to me. But looks like we'll probably never hear from him again.
Spirit does your wife only call you by one name? My wife has many for me. Good thing I don't give a @#@#๐
She calls me by my name. She used to every once in a while call me Chief. That was a long time ago, when I was. A Chief.
saw1
Loc: nor cal Windsor
Spiritof27 wrote:
She calls me by my name. She used to every once in a while call me Chief. That was a long time ago, when I was. A Chief.
I guess now you're just an Indian.
Sorry Spirit, I couldn't resist.
Retired Chief. I guess that makes me a Indian? OK.
HenryG
Loc: Falmouth Cape Cod Massachusetts
MAS fish wrote:
Oh yes!!! Our state biologist checks the lake every couple of years and it is on his recommendation as to what we remove species and size wise. I have one fisherman that caught 1425 bass this past year. He cleaned 888 of them that were under 12", released 421 over 12", and trashed 116 very small fish. He averaged 22 fish caught per outing.
62.2% cleaned
29.6% released
8.2% trashed
We try to monitor things pretty close and we are definitely seeing larger fish being caught due to this process. We have been working on this for 20 plus years and it looks like the recommendation is working.
MAS fish
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Interesting MAS thanks for the info learned a lot from your post๐บ๐ธ๐ฃ๐๐
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