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Dec 30, 2021 09:39:16   #
Flytier Loc: Wilmington Delaware
 
Grizzly 17 wrote:
Very true Food. I usually wear a hat with a f**g emblem on it. It tends to draw the was you in the military question. Works for me brother. Have a good day 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷


Mine doesn't leave any doubt. Wife picked it up somewhere.



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Dec 30, 2021 09:42:48   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Flytier wrote:
Mine doesn't leave any doubt. Wife picked it up somewhere.


I like em but my problem is that I'm just not a ball cap wearin kinda guy.

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Dec 30, 2021 09:55:17   #
Slimshady Loc: Central Pennsylvania
 
saw1 wrote:
I like em but my problem is that I'm just not a ball cap wearin kinda guy.


We’ll have to find a band for around your hat Saw. I’m sure someone makes them

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Dec 30, 2021 13:01:35   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
Slimshady wrote:
We’ll have to find a band for around your hat Saw. I’m sure someone makes them


That would surly work. 🇱🇷🇱🇷

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Dec 30, 2021 16:31:40   #
Jumpmaster Loc: Anaheim CA
 
The VA healthcare system has treated, or lack there of, so badly I had to switch to Medicare.

The new administration of government has declared most Veterans like myself as D******c T*******ts. Yes I am now on the FBI D******c T*******t Watchlist which means I have no civil liberties or civil rights.

The DHS and FBI now manage VA healthcare, under the guise of reducing the 22 Veteran suicides each and every day.

It is the 3 agencies that are provoking Veterans to commit suicide.

Fact is the socialist government fears Veterans. Must Veterans v**e conservative, believe in the rule of law, own firearms and have combat/ firearm experience and training.

The VA is now another Gestapo agency of the current administration.

Take C***D for instance. It is designed to purge the military along with any and all political opposition of the Demorat party.

The VA along with the DHS and FBI are nothing more than criminal agencies discriminating against conservatives.

I know because I living the nightmarish hell fabricated misdiagnosis and the withholding of medicine and programs that are needed to heal me from illness and persecution.

Before any negative replies or remarks of statements, I suggest you ask yourself, Why are there still 22 Veteran suicides each day? Why have the VA, DHS and FBI not reported their findings and actions to combat this destruction of Veteran lives by suicide.

The DHS and FBI are in charge, or the regulating authority of Veteran healthcare. They decide Veterans healthcare needs.

The VA by orders of the DHS and FBI have wrongly defined me as something I am not because I am the political opposition to their tyranny.

My driving privileges are suspended because I am not a democrat. Declared bipolar and psychotic without any cognitive testing to prove I am as the VA DHS and FBI claim.

The VA has on multiple occasions with held medicine and federal programs to continue my illegal persecution.

Imagine multiple visits to the VA ER with severe dehydration, blood and urine test levels dangerously close to death and not so much as an IV or medication to restore proper health.

The VA continues to violate its fiduciary and discretionary duties and responsibilities. The VA obstructs, stalls, deceives, denies and sabotages my healthcare to provoke suicide.

95% of all government employees in all agencies, to include federal state county and city employees are registered democrat.

Democrats are the cancer k*****g Veterans and k*****g AMERICA.

Want to know more, then please contact me

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Dec 30, 2021 17:24:51   #
smitty Loc: maine
 
some pretty thought provoking stuff

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Dec 30, 2021 20:18:35   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Jumpmaster wrote:
The VA healthcare system has treated, or lack there of, so badly I had to switch to Medicare.

The new administration of government has declared most Veterans like myself as D******c T*******ts. Yes I am now on the FBI D******c T*******t Watchlist which means I have no civil liberties or civil rights.

The DHS and FBI now manage VA healthcare, under the guise of reducing the 22 Veteran suicides each and every day.

It is the 3 agencies that are provoking Veterans to commit suicide.

Fact is the socialist government fears Veterans. Must Veterans v**e conservative, believe in the rule of law, own firearms and have combat/ firearm experience and training.

The VA is now another Gestapo agency of the current administration.

Take C***D for instance. It is designed to purge the military along with any and all political opposition of the Demorat party.

The VA along with the DHS and FBI are nothing more than criminal agencies discriminating against conservatives.

I know because I living the nightmarish hell fabricated misdiagnosis and the withholding of medicine and programs that are needed to heal me from illness and persecution.

Before any negative replies or remarks of statements, I suggest you ask yourself, Why are there still 22 Veteran suicides each day? Why have the VA, DHS and FBI not reported their findings and actions to combat this destruction of Veteran lives by suicide.

The DHS and FBI are in charge, or the regulating authority of Veteran healthcare. They decide Veterans healthcare needs.

The VA by orders of the DHS and FBI have wrongly defined me as something I am not because I am the political opposition to their tyranny.

My driving privileges are suspended because I am not a democrat. Declared bipolar and psychotic without any cognitive testing to prove I am as the VA DHS and FBI claim.

The VA has on multiple occasions with held medicine and federal programs to continue my illegal persecution.

Imagine multiple visits to the VA ER with severe dehydration, blood and urine test levels dangerously close to death and not so much as an IV or medication to restore proper health.

The VA continues to violate its fiduciary and discretionary duties and responsibilities. The VA obstructs, stalls, deceives, denies and sabotages my healthcare to provoke suicide.

95% of all government employees in all agencies, to include federal state county and city employees are registered democrat.

Democrats are the cancer k*****g Veterans and k*****g AMERICA.

Want to know more, then please contact me
The VA healthcare system has treated, or lack ther... (show quote)


WOW, sorry you're SO down on the VA. They've taken good care of me for over the past 20+ years.
Since 2011 it's the ONLY health care I have. They had to remove 3 feet of my colon that year and I was in the hospital for 10 days and they covered all of the expenses.
I'm 50% service connected disability and am fully covered EXCEPT dental. I don't have to pay a dime for anything.
My primary care Dr. is VERY nice and I have full confidence in his treatments for me.
I truly hope and pray that you start getting the health care you deserve as a Vet. Saw1.

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Dec 30, 2021 21:48:35   #
Jumpmaster Loc: Anaheim CA
 
I have had 9 different primary care doctors in 3 years. No health equity. I have no say in my healthcare. Anything I say is recorded as the opposite of what I actually said. My provider is Long Beach CA VAMC.

Make no mistake, the VA only advocates for the VA and not Veterans. The VA has effectively destroyed my health and financial standing.

Again I ask you, why are there still 22 Veteran suicides each and every day? Why are some Veterans committing suicide in VA medical centers? Often by shooting themself in the head? Why is there no real task force to combat this trend?

A common mistake of Veterans is to trust VA mental healthcare. Once treated the VA will make sure you are unfit for your own personal care. Then conservatorship. Many homeless veterans have a monthly stipend of $4,000 or more. But the conservator administrator only gives the Veteran 20-30 % to live on.

Or how about the Los Angeles CA VAMC LEASING OUT VA facilities to private enterprise to a sum of $8,000,000 a year while Homeless Veterans are prevented from the LA VAMC campus. That land was donated to Veterans through a trust and not donated to the VA. There are some homeless Veterans sleeping in tents on the LA VAMC CAMPUS. Tents have size restrictions. Wheel chair Veterans have to crawl in their tent and back in their chair because of these restrictions.

Do not get me wrong. I am happy for you but it is past time for Veterans to get their head out of the sand and see the big picture.

What I am telling you is true and have evidence to prove it. T***h to power. My word is the only thing the government can not take away from me. It’s called integrity and I am paying one hell of a price for speaking the t***h.

I will never take a knee to the liberal c*******ts. I will die defending this once great nation and our freedoms before I ever submit to their extortions and tyrannies.

I at least have the balls to speak the t***h and not hide behind government coercion.

I am not saying that about you but many Veterans are employed by the VA and they are complicit in these crimes my acting like crickets

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Dec 30, 2021 22:18:18   #
Foodfisher Loc: SO. Cal coast
 
Holy wow. Why is it that you are the first and only one that's come to my attention with these complaints after so many years being served by the VA?

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Dec 31, 2021 00:48:30   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
saw1 wrote:
WOW, sorry you're SO down on the VA. They've taken good care of me for over the past 20+ years.
Since 2011 it's the ONLY health care I have. They had to remove 3 feet of my colon that year and I was in the hospital for 10 days and they covered all of the expenses.
I'm 50% service connected disability and am fully covered EXCEPT dental. I don't have to pay a dime for anything.
My primary care Dr. is VERY nice and I have full confidence in his treatments for me.
I truly hope and pray that you start getting the health care you deserve as a Vet. Saw1.
WOW, sorry you're SO down on the VA. They've taken... (show quote)


I’m afraid he’s pretty close to right Steve. You’ve been here and you know me. I’m not liberal or conservative but I v**ed republican the last several times for obvious reasons. I get the same treatment he is talking about. I can’t even get an appointment with the VA. In my, initial, attempt to use my VA medical benefits after the Obama administration took over, one of the very first questions was “what is you political party choice?” I said “republican” because that was my choice at the time and still is. I haven’t been able to receive any kind of treatment at a VA since. Oh yeah I can get on their “waiting list” but most people die waiting for their turn on the “list” to come around two years later. And we hear stories like yours all the time “I can get right in and they pay for everything. Don’t cost me a dime”. That’s not the case for many of us and I’m an honorably, discharged U.S military veteran just like you are. Im not sure what the difference is but it’s pretty upsetting. Any conservative friends I have suffer the same issues with VA facilities while my liberal friends are confused as to why we don’t get the same treatment they get. I can’t answer that but I know it’s happening to many of us. My liberal buddies tell me I’m not doing something right or I’d be able to use my medical benefits. Well I’ve tried every angle I can think of and nothing has worked so I gave up on it. I’m afraid this gentleman is right about most of what he’s said here.
Maybe you can explain it to us. Why is it that’s people, such as yourself can just walk right into the VA and get any kind of medical attention you desire, including a disability compensation, everything paid for, no questions asked and many of us can’t even get past the waiting list to see a doctor, let alone collect any of the benefits we served our country for and earned.

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Dec 31, 2021 01:14:25   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Foodfisher wrote:
Holy wow. Why is it that you are the first and only one that's come to my attention with these complaints after so many years being served by the VA?


It’s because he’s right. If you speak out too loudly about the federal government you end up on their list of people to watch. Much like all of the people who “committed suicide” that crossed the Clintons. Lavoy Finnicum who stood his ground when the federal government took his water and made his cattle die of thirst because he wouldn’t give them his land. He’s dead now at the hands of the federal government. Sean Anderson, who stood his ground and exercised his constitutional rights and was shot seven times and is now in federal prison for the rest of his life because he was being watched by the feds for speaking his mind. He flashed his brights on an oncoming vehicle that flashed their bright lights at him. It was a State trooper. Within two miles he had 13 law enforcement vehicle chasing him from different jurisdictions at 1:00 in the morning on his way home from a birthday celebration for one of his friends way out in the middle of nowhere. The only vehicles out were 13 cops and Sean. Coincidence all those cops were just patrolling a 16 mile stretch of road at 1:00 am MILES from their jurisdictions? I’m not thinking so. That’s the kind of stuff that happens when people talk bad about the wrong crowd. The Lavoy Finnicum event was reported as a routine traffic stop. Weird thing was the entire highway was closed from both ends after Lavoy entered. There were drones and federal aircraft immediately over the area, snipers placed along the route and a planned, illegal, road block and Lavoy was shot 3 times in the back and k**led at the road block. Routine traffic stop??? I’m thinking maybe not.

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Dec 31, 2021 02:57:36   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Catfish h****r wrote:
I’m afraid he’s pretty close to right Steve. You’ve been here and you know me. I’m not liberal or conservative but I v**ed republican the last several times for obvious reasons. I get the same treatment he is talking about. I can’t even get an appointment with the VA. In my, initial, attempt to use my VA medical benefits after the Obama administration took over, one of the very first questions was “what is you political party choice?” I said “republican” because that was my choice at the time and still is. I haven’t been able to receive any kind of treatment at a VA since. Oh yeah I can get on their “waiting list” but most people die waiting for their turn on the “list” to come around two years later. And we hear stories like yours all the time “I can get right in and they pay for everything. Don’t cost me a dime”. That’s not the case for many of us and I’m an honorably, discharged U.S military veteran just like you are. Im not sure what the difference is but it’s pretty upsetting. Any conservative friends I have suffer the same issues with VA facilities while my liberal friends are confused as to why we don’t get the same treatment they get. I can’t answer that but I know it’s happening to many of us. My liberal buddies tell me I’m not doing something right or I’d be able to use my medical benefits. Well I’ve tried every angle I can think of and nothing has worked so I gave up on it. I’m afraid this gentleman is right about most of what he’s said here.
Maybe you can explain it to us. Why is it that’s people, such as yourself can just walk right into the VA and get any kind of medical attention you desire, including a disability compensation, everything paid for, no questions asked and many of us can’t even get past the waiting list to see a doctor, let alone collect any of the benefits we served our country for and earned.
I’m afraid he’s pretty close to right Steve. You’v... (show quote)


Well Randy, there were a lot of questions and paperwork that had to be filled out and a process that had to be followed to see if I qualified for service connected disability.
However, once all that was done and everything checked out to their satisfaction that the military was responsible for my disability, they awarded me 50% service connected disability.
Now as far as me walkin right in and getting any medical attention I desire. That's not quite the case. Just like any other doctors office, I still have to have an appointment and follow what the Dr. prescribes for treatment.
When I got out of the service in '75 I had the problems then that I'm getting compensation for now. However, I didn't apply for disability until 2011. Only then because the doctor said I should have been on disability since I got out and told me to go fill out the paperwork and apply right then.
Now if you look at it that way, I saved the government over 400 thousand dollars by not getting compensation until 2011 instead of startin in 1975.
I did fill out all the paperwork and apply for VA medical coverage in 2000 when I left Tahoe. So I was at least in their system and they knew my background before 2011. I'm sure that helped.
I don't mean to say everybody's gonna qualify for medical coverage. But for those that do, there are steps and procedures to follow and most of the guys I know that go to the VA have done that.
I'm sorry if things haven't worked out for you and others. I don't have an explanation as why. However, I don't think it's a big conspiracy against certain individuals like is being said here. But that's JMO.
Anybody else on here have all those kinda problems with the VA?

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Dec 31, 2021 08:46:34   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
saw1 wrote:
Well Randy, there were a lot of questions and paperwork that had to be filled out and a process that had to be followed to see if I qualified for service connected disability.
However, once all that was done and everything checked out to their satisfaction that the military was responsible for my disability, they awarded me 50% service connected disability.
Now as far as me walkin right in and getting any medical attention I desire. That's not quite the case. Just like any other doctors office, I still have to have an appointment and follow what the Dr. prescribes for treatment.
When I got out of the service in '75 I had the problems then that I'm getting compensation for now. However, I didn't apply for disability until 2011. Only then because the doctor said I should have been on disability since I got out and told me to go fill out the paperwork and apply right then.
Now if you look at it that way, I saved the government over 400 thousand dollars by not getting compensation until 2011 instead of startin in 1975.
I did fill out all the paperwork and apply for VA medical coverage in 2000 when I left Tahoe. So I was at least in their system and they knew my background before 2011. I'm sure that helped.
I don't mean to say everybody's gonna qualify for medical coverage. But for those that do, there are steps and procedures to follow and most of the guys I know that go to the VA have done that.
I'm sorry if things haven't worked out for you and others. I don't have an explanation as why. However, I don't think it's a big conspiracy against certain individuals like is being said here. But that's JMO.
Anybody else on here have all those kinda problems with the VA?
Well Randy, there were a lot of questions and pape... (show quote)

Thanks Steve. It sounds to me like you were already communicating with a doctor. I can't even get that far. I had great luck in Wyoming with the VA. Once I moved to Oregon it turned into a real crap show like most things there. It's been down hill ever since for me with the VA. I realize VA facilities have always been federal but now that we have a unique federal administration system it's not good for those of us who are not in the system. Not a huge deal though. I don't need what they have. I'm very proud to have done my part for our country. It's just sad our country won't do their part for some of us any more. It's a sad day when an American veteran is turned down for medical attention by the federal government and, at the same time, there are millions of undocumented i******s getting free medical care from the same administration that is telling some of us they won't do a thing for us after we served our country, born and raised U.S. citizens and are required to pay taxes so the illegal community can get everything free in our country.

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Dec 31, 2021 08:58:51   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
saw1 wrote:
Well Randy, there were a lot of questions and paperwork that had to be filled out and a process that had to be followed to see if I qualified for service connected disability.
However, once all that was done and everything checked out to their satisfaction that the military was responsible for my disability, they awarded me 50% service connected disability.
Now as far as me walkin right in and getting any medical attention I desire. That's not quite the case. Just like any other doctors office, I still have to have an appointment and follow what the Dr. prescribes for treatment.
When I got out of the service in '75 I had the problems then that I'm getting compensation for now. However, I didn't apply for disability until 2011. Only then because the doctor said I should have been on disability since I got out and told me to go fill out the paperwork and apply right then.
Now if you look at it that way, I saved the government over 400 thousand dollars by not getting compensation until 2011 instead of startin in 1975.
I did fill out all the paperwork and apply for VA medical coverage in 2000 when I left Tahoe. So I was at least in their system and they knew my background before 2011. I'm sure that helped.
I don't mean to say everybody's gonna qualify for medical coverage. But for those that do, there are steps and procedures to follow and most of the guys I know that go to the VA have done that.
I'm sorry if things haven't worked out for you and others. I don't have an explanation as why. However, I don't think it's a big conspiracy against certain individuals like is being said here. But that's JMO.
Anybody else on here have all those kinda problems with the VA?
Well Randy, there were a lot of questions and pape... (show quote)

Forgot to mention I've taken all of those steps you're talking about. Several years worth of them with no luck. I know your story. It's just odd to me that folks like you get things and folks like me don't. Same U.S. military service, same honorable discharge but different benefits. Zero on my part and pretty healthy on yours. I'd love to just buy a boat and go fishing all the time too but it didn't lean that way for some of us.

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Dec 31, 2021 11:00:03   #
Foodfisher Loc: SO. Cal coast
 
Got bumped to the attic. How cool is that!.?

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