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Dec 22, 2021 15:21:29   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
plumbob wrote:
Jeremy, can you back up that statement with a poll, or #'s that most of his demented followers are against it.

Hillary called us Deplorable and you call us Demented.

Great way to end the new year making waves Jeremy.



Cry me a River. Who are the people that cry about their right? Are they Trumpers? Who cry about mandates? Are they Trumpers? Who doesn’t want v*****es and are opposed to them?


Can you show the numbers that did prove all this?


What happened to you anyway? You used to seem like a middle of the road kind of person. Seems like FS is a bunch of Grumps and bullies anymore. It really isn’t what I remember when I joined.

So people can constantly shame the left but if anyone brings up factual statements about anything but bashing the left they are condemned?

It shows exactly what the c****e topic was about all over again. The majority on this site either bash the left or will not engage. It’s sad that only one sides opinions are acceptable on this American ( supposedly) site.

Democracy doesn’t mean my way or the Highway.

Those that believe in Democracy know life and politics are a 2 way street.

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Dec 22, 2021 15:24:49   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
plumbob wrote:
Jeremy, can you back up that statement with a poll, or #'s that most of his demented followers are against it.

Hillary called us Deplorable and you call us Demented.

Great way to end the new year making waves Jeremy.



So posting things like Biden needs to go is acceptable but to point out that Trump is still the crook he always was is unacceptable? Way to be fair … NOT.

You people wonder why good people leave this site. They get tired of the if you won’t change to our way of thinking we will hassle you forever.

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Dec 22, 2021 16:15:14   #
Jer Loc: N. Illinois 🇺🇸
 
Jeremy wrote:
So if Don the CON is responsible for the v*****es. If they were rushed and considered unsafe by his own cult of followers is that his fault? Or only the glory? He is currently claiming his followers and himself are the reason the v*****es are such a success this is yesterday’s news. But the stupid part to me is most of his demented followers are against it. He wants them to change their minds so he can get some credit from them.

Considering he said it was H**X in the first place. The guy is nuts. He ran for President as a publicity stunt in the first place.

The defense of the guy early by his followers was a business man ( crooked businessman) will be better president.

Well I don’t take my car to the dentist for repairs. I also don’t go to a mechanic for dental work. Don’t forget the guy was impeached twice. Only reason acquitted was party lines. Twice is proof the guy was not fit for the job. Then J****** 6th t***spired. I never believed who his followers were blaming either and it turns out now it was his followers. If someone wants to compare sheep to humans then J****** 6th is closest comparison I have witnessed in my lifetime
So if Don the CON is responsible for the v*****es.... (show quote)


Wow, are you okay? Let’s stick to facts and not hyperbole.

Facts:
https://apnews.com/article/e******n-2020-v***s-outbreak-ap-fact-check-politics-joe-biden-1eea443cca46df5f18e61b7c34549da2

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Dec 22, 2021 17:55:19   #
nutz4fish Loc: Colchester, CT
 
audigger53 wrote:
Agree with you about the time of year. That's why I said sorry for the rant.
It would be really great if all believed in "Peace on Earth", but a lot do not.
I wish for it not only for me but my family and all those I know and those I don't know.



This is the attic, say your piece here.
With all due respect to the others, I think this is an exceptionally appropriate time to post this, and I'll go out on a limb and say why:
Consider the grieving families and especially the Gold Star Moms trying to decide whether or not to place recently wrapped gifts under the tree for a lost son or daughter. Even if their loss occurred early in the year, it would be tough.
Fast forward a few years to face the healing gesture by the President, reopening all of their emotional pain. Jimmy Carter has demonstrated that he is a good man, and a great example of what a Christian can be.
But he blew this one, and badly. Accepting back those who abandoned their country and left the awful dirty work to others ? Bad policy, terrible precedent, and a slap in the face to all who served.
Personally , I have a world of respect for true consciencous objectors who did their time in jail, and those who served as medics or corpsmen and were exposed to becoming casualties themselves. Those who left and returned after the danger was over, I have nothing for them except contempt.
As always I welcome any criticism or insight that anyone feels the need to communicate to me.

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Dec 22, 2021 18:18:30   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Well like other posts on here.


Doesn’t it look as though this post should be put to bed? Or is that another thing that only some can suggest too?

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Dec 22, 2021 19:09:08   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
As someone who served during the Vietnam conflict I'd like to address the original poster's question. Then I'll be quiet. I don't believe for a second that Jimmy Carter did not consider what you guys have been discussing before he made his decision to pardon all the draft dodgers. I remember real well how divided this country was over that war. More than enough hard feelings to go around on both sides. It was a mistake on the part of the politicians who got us involved deeper and deeper as it drug out. Over 50 thousand of our brothers and sisters lost their lives. For what? Jimmy Carter didn't betray them. Robert McNamara did when he sent them over there to fight and die in a lost cause. Which he admitted later he had known all along. Jimmy Carter was a career Naval Officer, an Annapolis graduate, who left the service to take over his family's business when his father died. He was and is an honorable man who made the decision that it was time for this country to heal its wounds. I think he made the right decision.
There have been presidents with no regard at all for the military. They haven't all been Democrats. A couple of them come easily to mind. I won't name either, but neither of them ever served. One left office with a new found respect for those who do serve. The other never understood why anyone would do that. Still doesn't.

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Dec 22, 2021 19:10:01   #
Shutupandfish Loc: Transplanted roots back to Wyoming
 
audigger53 wrote:
OK, I read them all. I noticed that all of those are from those that dislike (and I am being nice) those in the military. Did any on them cry out against 9/11? Did any one call out John Kerry for his "Throwing his Medals over the wall". When later it was found out that he didn't throw his medals? That he wanted to be another JFK until he found out that being a "War Hero" wasn't getting v**es for him? BTW That was why he went for Swift Boats in Nam. So much about Kerry that has been forggoten by John Q. Public. And I won't start on Mr. Moore. I was lucky and drove home when I got out, so no one Spit on me at an Airport. No one said "Welcome Home" either. Me and Agent Orange now have 20% Disability. WWII Cans took in the water and then after "Cleaning" it, was used for drinking and washing. I was on one. USS Leary DD879. Code name "Home Run", doing gunfire support for our troops. I still ask Nam Vets when they were there to see if they were some we supported/saved. My Rating was Fire Control Gunnery.
OK, I read them all. I noticed that all of those ... (show quote)


Thanks for your service.
My father has some agent orange issues, think he’s gotta be at thirty% to get his handicap access hunting. Him and 7 sons, and my son, we all have at least one hitch. I was 62B in Army then USCG. 378ft cutter for almost 3 years of it.

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Dec 22, 2021 19:21:48   #
plumbob Loc: New Windsor Maryland
 
Jeremy wrote:
Cry me a River. Who are the people that cry about their right? Are they Trumpers? Who cry about mandates? Are they Trumpers? Who doesn’t want v*****es and are opposed to them?


Can you show the numbers that did prove all this?


What happened to you anyway? You used to seem like a middle of the road kind of person. Seems like FS is a bunch of Grumps and bullies anymore. It really isn’t what I remember when I joined.

So people can constantly shame the left but if anyone brings up factual statements about anything but bashing the left they are condemned?

It shows exactly what the c****e topic was about all over again. The majority on this site either bash the left or will not engage. It’s sad that only one sides opinions are acceptable on this American ( supposedly) site.

Democracy doesn’t mean my way or the Highway.

Those that believe in Democracy know life and politics are a 2 way street.
Cry me a River. Who are the people that cry about... (show quote)


Jeremy, not backing up your original statement with fact is pretty much standard you as per the Buzz thread.

And as far as being that middle of the road kind of guy, I haven't change there. If you were a republican and throwing out fact less accounts and lowering yourself to insults. I would call you out no matter your affiliation.

With the insults calling me and many more on here demented has earned you a spot on the naughty list.

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Dec 22, 2021 19:22:48   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Shutupandfish wrote:
Thanks for your service.
My father has some agent orange issues, think he’s gotta be at thirty% to get his handicap access hunting. Him and 7 sons, and my son, we all have at least one hitch. I was 62B in Army then USCG. 378ft cutter for almost 3 years of it.


Wasn't that fun? I went into the Navy because I h**e flying. So I put in 21 years and I was stationed aboard 1 ship, a sub tender tied up to the pier in Point Loma California. Every where I ever went - and I went a lot - I flied. But I managed to get under way a few times, and I loved every minute of it.
And thank you for your service and thank you to your father and brothers and son. That's really cool.

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Dec 22, 2021 19:38:18   #
Shutupandfish Loc: Transplanted roots back to Wyoming
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Wasn't that fun? I went into the Navy because I h**e flying. So I put in 21 years and I was stationed aboard 1 ship, a sub tender tied up to the pier in Point Loma California. Every where I ever went - and I went a lot - I flied. But I managed to get under way a few times, and I loved every minute of it.
And thank you for your service and thank you to your father and brothers and son. That's really cool.


Tease my two brothers that were Navy, I’ve got more sea time than them combined….Have a very Merry Christmas to you and yours.

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Dec 22, 2021 19:43:29   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 



Yeah please do stick to facts. Like which group opposes Masks and V*****es. I know which one it is.

Remember who called all this a H**x? Yeah let’s stick with facts. It’s a h**x but he is responsible for creating a several v*****es now. Wants his fan club to share in the responsibility. What’s that all about. His fan club are some of who opposes getting v******ted. So was it a h**x?

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Dec 22, 2021 19:46:55   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
plumbob wrote:
Jeremy, not backing up your original statement with fact is pretty much standard you as per the Buzz thread.

And as far as being that middle of the road kind of guy, I haven't change there. If you were a republican and throwing out fact less accounts and lowering yourself to insults. I would call you out no matter your affiliation.

With the insults calling me and many more on here demented has earned you a spot on the naughty list.



So I’m supposed to believe in Santa still. A middle of the road person wouldn’t try and defend the fact the majority of the people opposed to masks and v*****es are Trumpers. Did they all change their minds since J****** 6th or since last night?

I don’t know anyone unless they have a REAL Medical problem that whine about mandates masks or v*****es that are not a Trumper. NONE.

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Dec 22, 2021 19:51:39   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Thank You all that served. This Democratic Household supports Military and we both always will. Our son is currently serving this Free Country. He will be missed on Saturday. All of our grandparents and parents served. Wherever someone came up with the idea Democrats do not support Military is an assumption.

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Dec 22, 2021 19:54:08   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
So isn’t it time to put this post to BED? Or like I have noticed before… is that only allowed to be requested by certain people that assume they have a level of authority that doesn’t exist anyway?

Am I real naughty now? Santa already texted me saying I’m on the nice list but being as some think they have sinecure here I guess they can dream.

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Dec 22, 2021 20:26:13   #
plumbob Loc: New Windsor Maryland
 
Jeremy wrote:
So I’m supposed to believe in Santa still. A middle of the road person wouldn’t try and defend the fact the majority of the people opposed to masks and v*****es are Trumpers. Did they all change their minds since J****** 6th or since last night?

I don’t know anyone unless they have a REAL Medical problem that whine about mandates masks or v*****es that are not a Trumper. NONE.


Jeremy why in this world do you continue to dance around and change topics from my only question? I said nothing about Santa, v*****es, trump, mask etc: etc:etc:

Answer the question which was :

" Jeremy, can you back up that statement with a poll, or #'s that most of his demented followers are against it. "

Hillary called us Deplorable and you call us Demented.

Just put fact to your statements or move on to the OPP site where you are wanted.

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