DC Loc: Washington state

Jeremy you know better than to say if you don't agree that the earth is warming and if we don't do something it is going to end in 10 years as the climate alarmist say, that you are in denial and ignorant. The earth has many complicated systems that regulates climate and swing it one one and when things get out of wack swing it back the other way. Long term history has shown this. The solar activities is a big factor, the salt levels in the oceans is another, the natural carbon cycle, the axis changes and shifts, volcanic activity etc. is not denial or ignorance in fact I think it is the opposite it is looking at the total picture and drawing a conclusion based on known information and not just looking at one thing man's production of c02 and ignoring the rest.

audigger53 Loc: Severn, MD

I remember the "Solar Flares" in the early 60's. "They" were calling for a New Ice Age, as the Solar Flares were pushing the Radiant Heat past the earth. Now we have no solar flares and the radiant heat is here. Add the Axial Tilt of the earth chaging a bit and the temp goes up. All that man can do to increase/decrease C*****e C****e is maybe 1%. But "They" want to make money off scaring the population so they tout it as Man Made. Sorry for the rant but it makes me mad to hear nothing but lies about it. IF it was CO2 then after WWII when all the Steel plants were burning coal to rebuild all the damage from WWII the it would have gone up right then. Lies, lies, and more lies, again IMO.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Our country’s leadership is all based on lies now. Best to just ignore most of it and go fishing I figure.

audigger53 Loc: Severn, MD

Sounds good to me!

RuffplayOR57 Loc: Klamath Falls, OR

Digger I’m with ya, I don’t believe there’s really anything we can do to stop it with that being said yes we can help do our part stall out a little bit but God has his only plan and we are going to be confronted with that sooner or later I’m just afraid my kids or grandkids are going to be the ones that have to confront that

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Research “barotrauma” from wind mills.

Jeremy Loc: America

To to assume mankind has no effect is denial. I agree there is many natural factors but humans have an effect too.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

What I hear DC saying is the blame for c*****e c****e is placed on the wrong group of people for the most part. You live in a place where it’s very obvious people don’t give a crap about the climate or environment. It’s probably difficult for you to understand that in places like where I live now people are very aware of the problems that could develop and are doing something about it. We have free trash collection, people don’t just drive around for the sake of just driving around like they do where you live. Our industry that produces toxic emissions is highly regulated and very clean. Where you are the pollution just blows up into the air and spreads over large areas. I’m not blaming you or the people around you but I sure didn’t see much concern for toxic emissions during the 25 years I lived there. The governing bodies in any place should be held accountable for things like they are here. I don’t see that on your side of the mountain. Or anywhere along the west coast for that matter. Here in my area taxes are used for what they were collected for. Not so much where you are. If that were the case in Oregon you’d see a much cleaner, much healthier environment. Idaho is just as big as Oregon and we have 1/8th of the polluting situations you guys have over there.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

The population here in Idaho has grown immensely in the last two years. Area size is comparable and population is catching up with Oregon. There’s no actual numbers out by consensus yet but there’s WAY more people here now than there was when we bought our place here in 2018. And still the toxic regulations are keeping us in much better shape here. I know 23 Oregon families who’ve moved to Idaho or Montana in the last two years. Pretty much everyone I knew there is here now.

DC Loc: Washington state

who says mankind has no effect???? I would say compared to the natural cycles of both the sun and earth that in realty mankind has very little effect. not saying mankind doesn't mess up the environment and shouldn't avoid polluting the air and water as much as reasonably possible but pollution and climate are two very different things. We should address the problem of pollution, which we have done a better job of doing in the past 25 years, with out feeling we have to make up or exarate the effect way beyond what it is. Pollution we can do something about c*****e c****e we can do very very little about.

Jeremy Loc: America

There are many that claim man has nothing to do with c*****e c****e. There most definitely is natural and non controllable things with c*****e c****e. Ice tells the story but many claim it’s all a bunch of f**e information but many know for a fact c*****e c****e has been effected by man. I’m saying the folks that deny we could have any effect on it are in denial and there are plenty that claim man hasn’t done anything to effect it.

Pollution is definitely a problem. Yes government should try to do something about it. Air and water and other things we need have been polluted in by government and many private companies. The private companies that did it should be held accountable. If a Company does something and ignores regulation and ethics it’s the Company not the Government’s Fault though. To blame Government for what a Private Company tries to get away with is not holding the guilty accountable.

Many things surrounding pollution wasn’t even thought of over the last few centuries until it was proven but many will still claim its nonsense. Start an engine inside a confined space and analyze the Air Quality after an hour.

Think of all the pollution since man discovered f****l f**ls let alone nuclear and many other chemicals & medical pollution.

I understand many things man has discovered made life easier but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t come at a cost to our environment. I’m glad most people here know we pollute and effect our environment but it’s a fact many claim we have no effect on it still even today.

We are all fishing people. Fish and Space Aliens or Mother Earth didn’t put all the plastic in the Oceans. Clothing Manufacturers and other Industries and selfish humans have. It’s not the Earth or Wildlife’s fault.

Jeremy Loc: America

Fishing is good Therapy for sure. I wouldn’t claim the last administration was 100% honest because it’s known it was far from it.

Jeremy Loc: America

Pollution is always higher where population is higher. Another variable is square miles.

I worked in the Environmental Field for decades. Many states utilize things from Oregon to guide their Environmental Programs currently. Many Western States communicate and use other states results for their future planning. It’s great if more states consider Environmental Protection a Priority. The Environmental Community know there will always be Industry and Pollution. Look at some pictures of Air Quality from the 1950’s ,1960’s ,1970’s,1980’s and so on then research what regulatory changes happened.

Who would of thought Coal puts Mercury in our bodies. Who would of thought Lead is poison 200 or 300 years ago. Many that profit from it all could still try to claim Coal doesn’t hurt human life.

Remember Tyco ( toy manufacturer). The plant had drinking fountains that employees drank water from. Same water source used for food coffee etc.

Majority of employees ended up with Cancer. No one knew it when they were drinking the coffee and water eating food with the water in it. Some may still say it’s just a coincidence. Well it’s a known fact that the Employees were poisoned accidentally because chemicals ended up in the water at the Tyco plant. That’s one example. There is cities and town that are ghost towns now in the great USA due to industrial pollution that ruined the places k**led many its no secret yet there are still people that will say no pollution is not a problem. I seen it first hand.

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DC Loc: Washington state

I always enjoy hearing from you Oregonians (Jeremy and fixorfish) I may not agree with what you say but you have a perspective that needs to be heard and thrown into the mix to be evaluated. So even if I disagree with what you say I do read and consider what you have said and am glad you are regulars in the attic as I am with catfish h****r from Idaho while us in the NW enjoy the same love and appreciations for one of the best places around we sure have different perspectives on things sometimes but I'm sure we would all agree Washing on state is the crown jewel of the NW. (OK maybe I like doing a little trolling)

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

That's "if'n WHEN the magnetic poles flip-flop again.