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Nov 4, 2020 15:26:26   #
FinFisherman Loc: Born in Ohio - 40 yrs Florida- Clearwater,Fl
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
I think you got to be Asian and have that stuff in your blood in order to enjoy it. Or Scandinavian, they eat some vile fish concoctions. Think lutefisk and Surströmming. They say it's not bad once you get past the smell. I disagree. It's bad. Foul in fact. As is, most likely, Hakarl - fermented (rotten) shark that's hung to dry for 5 months or so. I've never tried it. Nor will I.


Aw Spirit you were saying how much you liked pickeled herring in wine sauce

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Nov 4, 2020 16:21:16   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
FinFisherman wrote:
Aw Spirit you were saying how much you liked pickeled herring in wine sauce

And I do. Not as much as mrs spirit (she could live on it) but I do enjoy it. But that's a far cry from Surstromming. You ever eat that? Or smell it? Good lord.

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Nov 4, 2020 17:30:56   #
Fillet O' Fung Loc: Berthoud CO
 
I was going to suggest what Lockman said, cotton, which we used mixed in with dough to catch carp when i was a kid. I also like the idea of just eating the sardines and bread, or get some crackers squeeze a little Beaver not and sweet mustard on em, and you're set.

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Nov 4, 2020 18:07:26   #
halibutjim Loc: southern ca.
 
gene so wrote:
Hello ,
Recently I was told of a bait for trout that consisted of sardines combined with wonder bread, without the crust. I should think this scented bait might be more successful with larger trout that are completely adapted to the wild, and are too sharp for the common power baits.

I know what water does to bread flour ( dissolves it) , so after combining these two ingredients with a fork, am seeking a third ingredient that will convert it to a heavy paste so it will stay on a hook. Some dough based baits I have already seen just seem to fall readily off a hook, when placed in the water, so creating something that will adhere to a hook appeals highly to me. I note Berkeley "crumbles" are of the consistency that seems to last , when immersed in the water. Does anyone seriously know what component I can use to create a heavy paste(?) type of bait?
Try mixing in some corn starch to bind
My season starts again in March. I have just been reintroduced to fishing and also trout fishing. I have caught just a few really large (20"+) rainbows and want to concentrate on them next year. This bait, when i get it formulated correctly should be helpful in achieving that goal.
Hello , br Recently I was told of a bait for trout... (show quote)

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Nov 4, 2020 18:09:24   #
halibutjim Loc: southern ca.
 
Try mixing some corn starch to bind might help

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Nov 4, 2020 18:19:32   #
danieltrapper Loc: colorado
 
gene so wrote:
Hello ,
Recently I was told of a bait for trout that consisted of sardines combined with wonder bread, without the crust. I should think this scented bait might be more successful with larger trout that are completely adapted to the wild, and are too sharp for the common power baits.

I know what water does to bread flour ( dissolves it) , so after combining these two ingredients with a fork, am seeking a third ingredient that will convert it to a heavy paste so it will stay on a hook. Some dough based baits I have already seen just seem to fall readily off a hook, when placed in the water, so creating something that will adhere to a hook appeals highly to me. I note Berkeley "crumbles" are of the consistency that seems to last , when immersed in the water. Does anyone seriously know what component I can use to create a heavy paste(?) type of bait?

My season starts again in March. I have just been reintroduced to fishing and also trout fishing. I have caught just a few really large (20"+) rainbows and want to concentrate on them next year. This bait, when i get it formulated correctly should be helpful in achieving that goal.
Hello , br Recently I was told of a bait for trout... (show quote)


try mixing with pizza doe instead of bread

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Nov 4, 2020 21:34:53   #
bozokarl Loc: south central Pa
 
gene so wrote:
Hello ,
Recently I was told of a bait for trout that consisted of sardines combined with wonder bread, without the crust. I should think this scented bait might be more successful with larger trout that are completely adapted to the wild, and are too sharp for the common power baits.

I know what water does to bread flour ( dissolves it) , so after combining these two ingredients with a fork, am seeking a third ingredient that will convert it to a heavy paste so it will stay on a hook. Some dough based baits I have already seen just seem to fall readily off a hook, when placed in the water, so creating something that will adhere to a hook appeals highly to me. I note Berkeley "crumbles" are of the consistency that seems to last , when immersed in the water. Does anyone seriously know what component I can use to create a heavy paste(?) type of bait?

My season starts again in March. I have just been reintroduced to fishing and also trout fishing. I have caught just a few really large (20"+) rainbows and want to concentrate on them next year. This bait, when i get it formulated correctly should be helpful in achieving that goal.
Hello , br Recently I was told of a bait for trout... (show quote)


I'd try unflavored gelatin

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Nov 5, 2020 03:08:58   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Hey you let us know if you catch a brown on power bait. I don't think I've ever done that. One of the lakes I fish a lot holds a healthy population of both browns and bows and the only browns I've ever caught there were early morning with a super duper. The DFW stocks bows there but I think the browns are all wild. Maybe that's why?


I've been told the best bait for Brown's is to troll a nightcrawler naked on 4 lb test line with a loose drag. Tried it for a while but got tired of everyone staring at my naked body.

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Nov 5, 2020 09:31:06   #
fishlady Loc: wyoming
 
Try tying it up in a piece of either cheesecloth or a piece of old nylon stocking. (I am actually finding all kinds of uses for those that I would normally be throwing out.)

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Nov 5, 2020 09:36:51   #
greenery1 Loc: Spokane WA
 
gene so wrote:
Hello ,
Recently I was told of a bait for trout that consisted of sardines combined with wonder bread, without the crust. I should think this scented bait might be more successful with larger trout that are completely adapted to the wild, and are too sharp for the common power baits.

I know what water does to bread flour ( dissolves it) , so after combining these two ingredients with a fork, am seeking a third ingredient that will convert it to a heavy paste so it will stay on a hook. Some dough based baits I have already seen just seem to fall readily off a hook, when placed in the water, so creating something that will adhere to a hook appeals highly to me. I note Berkeley "crumbles" are of the consistency that seems to last , when immersed in the water. Does anyone seriously know what component I can use to create a heavy paste(?) type of bait?

My season starts again in March. I have just been reintroduced to fishing and also trout fishing. I have caught just a few really large (20"+) rainbows and want to concentrate on them next year. This bait, when i get it formulated correctly should be helpful in achieving that goal.
Hello , br Recently I was told of a bait for trout... (show quote)


That's the secret of the sardines and white bread: the sardines have OIL in them.... which resists the dissolving in the water. Plus bones (calcium & phosphate), and gluten form a bond albeit a temporary one.

ps: I've a PhD and taught college chemistry.

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Nov 5, 2020 09:55:04   #
gene so Loc: Las Vegas, New Mexico
 
Thanks for all your input. The season is closed on the Alpine lakes till March. So I have time to mess with this formula. I shall try adding cotton balls and play-doh first. Since I was told by the game department that the Powerbaits look and smell like the hatchery food used to raise the rainbows in this lake, I want to come up with an alternate formula. The three largest trout caught by me this year were on worms. So, logically these trout had adjusted to foods from nature. I think that the oily sardine mixture makes sense for larger, older trout. Now I have to come up with the correct bonding agent so it will make for a long lasting substance that will be retained on a hook.

Thanks a lot

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Nov 5, 2020 10:03:28   #
Beadling9 Loc: Pittsburgh
 
Styrofoam plate ground up , put into play dough to make float.
I put piece of styrofoam on hook first them wax worms to fish biotin of lake. Works well.
Fish on

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Nov 5, 2020 13:47:54   #
Bassless chap
 
Spirito, you look so much like a Bob rather than a Spirito, any way, I agree, Berkley power bait is the deal, caught me a 22" 8 lb. Rainbow, remember ?

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Nov 5, 2020 15:13:38   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
gene so wrote:
Thanks for all your input. The season is closed on the Alpine lakes till March. So I have time to mess with this formula. I shall try adding cotton balls and play-doh first. Since I was told by the game department that the Powerbaits look and smell like the hatchery food used to raise the rainbows in this lake, I want to come up with an alternate formula. The three largest trout caught by me this year were on worms. So, logically these trout had adjusted to foods from nature. I think that the oily sardine mixture makes sense for larger, older trout. Now I have to come up with the correct bonding agent so it will make for a long lasting substance that will be retained on a hook.

Thanks a lot
Thanks for all your input. The season is closed o... (show quote)


Gene.... did you fish those worms naked? If so, maybe I need to try again. But for the life of me I can't figure out why it matters.
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

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Nov 5, 2020 17:48:10   #
walkinkatfish Loc: San Francisco ,East Bay California U.S.A.
 
gene so wrote:
Hello ,
Recently I was told of a bait for trout that consisted of sardines combined with wonder bread, without the crust. I should think this scented bait might be more successful with larger trout that are completely adapted to the wild, and are too sharp for the common power baits.

I know what water does to bread flour ( dissolves it) , so after combining these two ingredients with a fork, am seeking a third ingredient that will convert it to a heavy paste so it will stay on a hook. Some dough based baits I have already seen just seem to fall readily off a hook, when placed in the water, so creating something that will adhere to a hook appeals highly to me. I note Berkeley "crumbles" are of the consistency that seems to last , when immersed in the water. Does anyone seriously know what component I can use to create a heavy paste(?) type of bait?

My season starts again in March. I have just been reintroduced to fishing and also trout fishing. I have caught just a few really large (20"+) rainbows and want to concentrate on them next year. This bait, when i get it formulated correctly should be helpful in achieving that goal.
Hello , br Recently I was told of a bait for trout... (show quote)


I put my stink bait/doughballs in pantyhose sections,(just cut the toe or heel off) secured with little dental rubberbands

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