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Jul 9, 2020 08:52:56   #
msmllm Loc: Huntington, WV
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Shopping for barbless hooks and came across these. Anybody know how to attach this to a line so it won't come off when you catch a fish? As if I would have to worry about that.

https://www.amazon.com/WAKILO-Barbed-Fishing-Hook-Total/dp/B07Y885GPN/ref=sr_1_24?dchild=1&keywords=barbless+fishing+hooks&qid=1594226734&sr=8-24


I would order these hooks but - where is the hole at the top of the hook?

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Jul 9, 2020 10:11:00   #
1steeler Loc: NW Missouri
 
I don’t know if this helps but these are on EBAY



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Jul 9, 2020 10:58:43   #
rapala54 Loc: Nappanee,IN.
 
Ebay has a few barbless size 8 . Know how picky us old guys are

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Jul 9, 2020 11:52:49   #
msmllm Loc: Huntington, WV
 
1steeler wrote:
I don’t know if this helps but these are on EBAY


You have to wait too long to receive them.

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Jul 9, 2020 12:16:49   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Jeremy wrote:
I put leader line through hook eye ( regardless of type or size ) I get 3 or 4 inches of line to wrap around the leader line that will be tied to swivel...wrap it 7 times. put tip of tag end through the opening closest to hookeye then back through the open spot that was just made. always pull it and be sure it synched tight so you will take the fish home. snip tag end off. that's a hand tied hook.

it may be called a double overhand synch knot. It hasn't failed.


Improved Clinch Knot, I use it all the time on mono or fluorocarbon.

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Jul 9, 2020 12:29:13   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
1steeler wrote:
I don’t know if this helps but these are on EBAY


Yes! Thank you. Not circle hooks, but small barbless for sure. 2.49 for 50? What could go wrong?

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Jul 9, 2020 13:46:22   #
Jwid Loc: Lake Killarney, Ironton, MO
 
Try searching octopus hooks.

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Jul 9, 2020 13:50:55   #
Denny G. Loc: Located in Central Michigan
 
I have fished certain areas in Canada where you must use barb less hooks on all lures and tackle. What we were told by their dnr and also the resort owners is to either file down the barb or pinch it flat. Hope this helps.

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Jul 9, 2020 14:30:11   #
Captain Lahti Loc: Kennewick, WA
 
These hooks have been used for a few hundred years, made without barbs or without an eye for the line to pass through. In American history, they were made for colonial fishermen and traded across the continent to indigenous peoples and used by frontiersmen. A colonial fly fishermen tied the leader material onto the hook then dressed the fly over that leader, which was usually horses hair. The important thing now is what knot do you use today. We should all be familiar with the snelled bait hook. Where the leader is passed through the eye and secured with basically a nail knot or barrel knot. The same knot is used on these hooks, cinched down on the shank and prevented from sliding off by the flattened end of the shank. The more strain that is put on such an arraignment, the tighter the knot. They should be quit secure. The design would allow you to actually make your own hooks provided you have appropriate wire and a way to sharpen one end and flatten the other. In early America, these skills were common provided the materials were available. In fact such snelled hooks don’t rely on the eye to secure the leader and hook but the tension and the widening of the hook at the eye, just as these eyeless hooks do. They are likely cheaper to make as well.

In tying a horse hair leader to such a hook, the horse hair is not tied on with the barrel knot but tied on by laying flat on the hook, wrapped with silk thread, doubled back on itself and covered with the silk to secure it. Then the hook is dressed with a fly pattern or baited, as conditions require.

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Jul 9, 2020 14:31:05   #
wainemaine Loc: western mountains, Maine
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
No, but thank you. Several years ago I bought 100 #8 barbless circle hooks from cabela's. I should have bought 1000. I'd like to buy some more, and they no longer carry them. So that's what I'm looking for. Just about impossible to find small circle hooks like that, much less barbless ones. Kinda like shopping at Costco - soon as you find something you like, they no longer carry it. Like my favorite bbq sauce for ribs and my favorite wine.


You can use a everyday uni knot, as far as I know it's just like a snell knot

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Jul 9, 2020 14:57:51   #
wainemaine Loc: western mountains, Maine
 
wainemaine wrote:
You can use a everyday uni knot, as far as I know it's just like a snell knot


I rarely use a uni knot, but I do when tying on a hook for worms, I leave the tag end a bit long and it helps keep the worm on longer. Those eyeless hooks are fine, a snell knot, a clinch knot(improved or not),a nail knot, 1/2 a blood knot, whatever flavor you are familiar with,works.

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Jul 9, 2020 15:05:35   #
Charlie H Loc: Greer, Arizona
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Shopping for barbless hooks and came across these. Anybody know how to attach this to a line so it won't come off when you catch a fish? As if I would have to worry about that.

https://www.amazon.com/WAKILO-Barbed-Fishing-Hook-Total/dp/B07Y885GPN/ref=sr_1_24?dchild=1&keywords=barbless+fishing+hooks&qid=1594226734&sr=8-24


Hey Spirit,
Any reputable Fly Shop has barbless fools. One I use is Caddis Fly Shop (caddisflyshop.com).
Search for barbless hooks and you’ll get 350 choices, as big or small as you like.

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Jul 9, 2020 15:06:34   #
Charlie H Loc: Greer, Arizona
 
That’s barbless “hooks” for fools like me. Ha!

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Jul 9, 2020 16:13:41   #
riffraff2 Loc: las vegas via Los Angeles
 
the angle is different, if the line went through an eye it would pull the hook at a different angle

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Jul 9, 2020 16:37:50   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
Captan Lahti wrote:
These hooks have been used for a few hundred years, made without barbs or without an eye for the line to pass through. In American history, they were made for colonial fishermen and traded across the continent to indigenous peoples and used by frontiersmen. A colonial fly fishermen tied the leader material onto the hook then dressed the fly over that leader, which was usually horses hair. The important thing now is what knot do you use today. We should all be familiar with the snelled bait hook. Where the leader is passed through the eye and secured with basically a nail knot or barrel knot. The same knot is used on these hooks, cinched down on the shank and prevented from sliding off by the flattened end of the shank. The more strain that is put on such an arraignment, the tighter the knot. They should be quit secure. The design would allow you to actually make your own hooks provided you have appropriate wire and a way to sharpen one end and flatten the other. In early America, these skills were common provided the materials were available. In fact such snelled hooks don’t rely on the eye to secure the leader and hook but the tension and the widening of the hook at the eye, just as these eyeless hooks do. They are likely cheaper to make as well.

In tying a horse hair leader to such a hook, the horse hair is not tied on with the barrel knot but tied on by laying flat on the hook, wrapped with silk thread, doubled back on itself and covered with the silk to secure it. Then the hook is dressed with a fly pattern or baited, as conditions require.
These hooks have been used for a few hundred years... (show quote)


Thank you Cap'n. What it says at the bottom of my posts. Horse hair leader? Did they use the tail or the mane? I once had a freshly "brewed" cup of coffee which had been strained thru a horse hair (from the tail) filter, on the side of a mountain in Eritrea.

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