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Jul 5, 2020 15:58:25   #
wd4ity Loc: Middle Georgia, Forsyth
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
About five years ago, there was a report that a young female veterinarian had reported on line that she had just shot and killed a feral house cat and showed its picture on Facebook.

Well, there arose a hue and cry about it. Since she had shown evidence of killing the cat, it was brought before the State Vet board. In the end she was fined and got her license suspended for one year. This is Houston and a large metropolitan area. It has in its population some people who had rather see a 1,000 grown nesting birds killed than one semi feral house cat.

The supposed owners of the cat, or those that claimed it, said it had a name and would never do such a thing. Obviously, they had no knowledge of the nature of this or any other cat that's allowed out at night to roam and hunt. That's their nature and cannot be changed. House cats should be kept in the house!

I still advocate any hunter out in the woods who sees a cat, shoot that cat! Save untold number of young helpless birds. If the cat hunted to eat, but they don't. I sent an email to the young unemployed vet and told her her mistake was posting her good deed on the internet. There are too many whinners who have no idea the destruction caused by "innocent" house cats.

I expect I will get some flack over my opinion and solution. I have been a quail hunter all my life, or until I can't walk and hunt. Any feral house cat I ever saw out hunting birds too, was a dead cat! Just Sayin...RJS
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I have a friend that lives next door to me that raises chickens. Feral cats find their way in and wreak havoc killing as many chickens as they can. So, I have a rule. I call it "Rule 556".

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Jul 5, 2020 17:04:58   #
OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
About five years ago, there was a report that a young female veterinarian had reported on line that she had just shot and killed a feral house cat and showed its picture on Facebook.

Well, there arose a hue and cry about it. Since she had shown evidence of killing the cat, it was brought before the State Vet board. In the end she was fined and got her license suspended for one year. This is Houston and a large metropolitan area. It has in its population some people who had rather see a 1,000 grown nesting birds killed than one semi feral house cat.

The supposed owners of the cat, or those that claimed it, said it had a name and would never do such a thing. Obviously, they had no knowledge of the nature of this or any other cat that's allowed out at night to roam and hunt. That's their nature and cannot be changed. House cats should be kept in the house!

I still advocate any hunter out in the woods who sees a cat, shoot that cat! Save untold number of young helpless birds. If the cat hunted to eat, but they don't. I sent an email to the young unemployed vet and told her her mistake was posting her good deed on the internet. There are too many whinners who have no idea the destruction caused by "innocent" house cats.

I expect I will get some flack over my opinion and solution. I have been a quail hunter all my life, or until I can't walk and hunt. Any feral house cat I ever saw out hunting birds too, was a dead cat! Just Sayin...RJS
About five years ago, there was a report that a yo... (show quote)


The only cat which should be allowed outside is a barn cat to control the rats and mice on farms.
We had a “rule” when I lived in SD. If a cat was within 50yds of the front porch of the farmhouse...he was a pet. 51+...he was a target.

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Jul 5, 2020 17:34:47   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
OJdidit wrote:
The only cat which should be allowed outside is a barn cat to control the rats and mice on farms.
We had a “rule” when I lived in SD. If a cat was within 50yds of the front porch of the farmhouse...he was a pet. 51+...he was a target.


That is the law isn’t it? Obey the law!

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Jul 5, 2020 17:57:30   #
OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin
 
Huntm22 wrote:
That is the law isn’t it? Obey the law!


I feel bad for the Vet, but it was a foolish decision to post the pic these days.

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Jul 5, 2020 18:02:56   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
Ya the SSS program should be adhered to!

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Jul 5, 2020 18:37:01   #
DonaldRotter80 Loc: St, Cloud, Minnesota
 
Robert J Samples. Here in St. Cloud, Mn the law prohibits releasing any projectile, even a rock, or face a $300 fine the last I checked years ago. "Just Sayin".

There was a heated ongoing discussion in the local weekly fishing news a few years ago with cat lovers chastising cat haters for eliminating all roaming felines on sight for their deadly carnage on game birds and song birds. After weeks of ongoing fighting a game warden chimed in with the fact there was no law against killing roaming feral cats. He said if it did not have a collar on just shoot it and dispose of it and shut up. I don't have to dispose of them as cats, woodchucks, opossums (in season) disappear over night as the coyotes will eat everything. I can't believe that there is a season on opossums. Season opens around October 25th and they can be harvested from 1/2 hour before sunup to 1/2 hour after sundown, like deer!

My weapon of choice is a bolt action .17 HMR which sends the round downrange at 2,550 ft. per second. This round was developed by Hornady himself to prevent any ricochets as the bullet blows up on impact on water, rocks, trees and of course animals. It has no recoil and is only slightly louder than a .22 long rifle and travels more than twice as fast. With a good scope this rifle is super accurate and deadly.

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Jul 5, 2020 18:57:37   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
DonaldRotter80 wrote:
Robert J Samples. Here in St. Cloud, Mn the law prohibits releasing any projectile, even a rock, or face a $300 fine the last I checked years ago. "Just Sayin".

There was a heated ongoing discussion in the local weekly fishing news a few years ago with cat lovers chastising cat haters for eliminating all roaming felines on sight for their deadly carnage on game birds and song birds. After weeks of ongoing fighting a game warden chimed in with the fact there was no law against killing roaming feral cats. He said if it did not have a collar on just shoot it and dispose of it and shut up. I don't have to dispose of them as cats, woodchucks, opossums (in season) disappear over night as the coyotes will eat everything. I can't believe that there is a season on opossums. Season opens around October 25th and they can be harvested from 1/2 hour before sunup to 1/2 hour after sundown, like deer!

My weapon of choice is a bolt action .17 HMR which sends the round downrange at 2,550 ft. per second. This round was developed by Hornady himself to prevent any ricochets as the bullet blows up on impact on water, rocks, trees and of course animals. It has no recoil and is only slightly louder than a .22 long rifle and travels more than twice as fast. With a good scope this rifle is super accurate and deadly.
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Love the 17hmr. Have had several. My fav is the Ruger M77/17. Sweet shooter. Took three turkeys with it last fall/winter. The state allows rimfire and three turkeys on the fall hunt only.

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Jul 5, 2020 19:06:39   #
teabag09 Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
About five years ago, there was a report that a young female veterinarian had reported on line that she had just shot and killed a feral house cat and showed its picture on Facebook.

Well, there arose a hue and cry about it. Since she had shown evidence of killing the cat, it was brought before the State Vet board. In the end she was fined and got her license suspended for one year. This is Houston and a large metropolitan area. It has in its population some people who had rather see a 1,000 grown nesting birds killed than one semi feral house cat.

The supposed owners of the cat, or those that claimed it, said it had a name and would never do such a thing. Obviously, they had no knowledge of the nature of this or any other cat that's allowed out at night to roam and hunt. That's their nature and cannot be changed. House cats should be kept in the house!

I still advocate any hunter out in the woods who sees a cat, shoot that cat! Save untold number of young helpless birds. If the cat hunted to eat, but they don't. I sent an email to the young unemployed vet and told her her mistake was posting her good deed on the internet. There are too many whinners who have no idea the destruction caused by "innocent" house cats.

I expect I will get some flack over my opinion and solution. I have been a quail hunter all my life, or until I can't walk and hunt. Any feral house cat I ever saw out hunting birds too, was a dead cat! Just Sayin...RJS
About five years ago, there was a report that a yo... (show quote)


RJS, I've been a CAT owner for probably 40 or more years and I agree whole heartily with you. I've had one cat in all of that time I didn't worry about being let outside. It was a pure white male I got before it was weaned from a girl I knew. Her father was going to drown the litter and she was trying to save them.

The cat had five toes on it's front feet and one eye was green and one was blue. As soon as I let the kitten out of the paper sack it headed directly behind the fridge where it stayed for almost three weeks until I was able to coax it out. In that time my house was off limits to anyone but me. His name was pooter for obvious reasons.

Anyway, that cat grew up to be about 13 lbs. The reason I didn't worry about letting him out is he would catch birds, butterflies, skinks etc. and bring them to my wife and me as presents and none had a single scratch on them. He had the softest mouth I've seen on any animal. We have watched him leap and catch dragonflies in mid-air and bring them to us alive and well. Other than him every cat I've had (you don't own cats, they own you) could and would be a killer, it's how GOD made them.

When my daughter was born he committed suicide by running into traffic which he never had done before. He never went outside of our short (2') chain link fence except for one time and that was to confront a boxer who was charging at me snarling. The dog backed down. Mike

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Jul 5, 2020 19:12:35   #
teabag09 Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia
 
Big dog wrote:
I hear ya, I used to practice year round with the bow, out to 45 yards, from every position I could think of.
I haven’t shot the bow in quite a few years now, don’t know if I could still draw it back. Loved shooting it, very gratifying when ya feel that perfect shot before it hits the target.😊


I've had to go to a crossbow, can't hold the compound back anymore. Hell getting older but I consider the option. Heck, ever other day I'm pulling on the bow trying to keep the muscles somewhat in shape. Turned 70 today. Mike

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Jul 5, 2020 19:20:44   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
I have a manual crank for my xbow. My son that lays carpet for a living could not cock it. He just thought I was getting too old until he tried it. 50 yds and I can Hit a 5” paper plate every time - I am super impressed with it.

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Jul 5, 2020 19:53:32   #
teabag09 Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia
 
Huntm22 wrote:
I have a manual crank for my xbow. My son that lays carpet for a living could not cock it. He just thought I was getting too old until he tried it. 50 yds and I can Hit a 5” paper plate every time - I am super impressed with it.


Just got a new crossbow. Shoots 500gr bolts a 415fps, has a 200lb draw weight which I haven't tried yet and that's the reason I'm working with my other crossbow to get my muscles in shape. My son-in-law has shot it and it's amazingly accurate and extremely fast. Mike

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Jul 5, 2020 20:40:02   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
Mine is 185lb @ 390 fps. It is a flinger!

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Jul 5, 2020 20:56:11   #
teabag09 Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia
 
Huntm22 wrote:
Mine is 185lb @ 390 fps. It is a flinger!


That scares me as to whether I'll even be able to cock it. Might need to start lifting weights. Mike

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Jul 5, 2020 21:00:17   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
Might check into whether they have a manual crank for it. Had A couple other macho youngsters try to cock mine but couldn’t. Just FYI

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Jul 5, 2020 21:02:22   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
I could cock my old 150# but not this one.

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