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Jan 17, 2024 14:12:54   #
Lockman54 Loc: Alliance,Oh
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
Hi Randy,
Re: "...be so blind..."
May I ask your view?
1. Do you retain respect for our Justice System (in my view, flawed; but still the best out there)?
2. Did our former president, for months plan and ultimately execute, or at least encourage, the interruption of our peaceful t******r of p***r?
3. Did our former president illegally posses and then conceal highly classified documents?
4. Did our former president actively interfere with the State e******n in Georgia?
5. How many of our former president's legal counsels have already pleaded-out guilty, one or more to felonies?
6. If our former president is found guilty (by a jury of his peers and not some prosecutor or government) of any felony, can you find reason to support the conviction with consequences?
Help me out here, man.
I just got a new eyeglass prescription and I'm figuring my vision is 20:20 past my nose.
And lastly, I don't think you can make some level of comparison between socialism and c*******m.
One is an economic system while the other is a political system.
Tight lines,
Stephen
Hi Randy, br Re: "...be so blind..." br ... (show quote)


Better go to a different eye doctor. Get your eyes checked again for a second opinion!

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Jan 17, 2024 14:17:01   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
Lockman54 wrote:
Better go to a different eye doctor. Get your eyes checked again for a second opinion!


Still no answers to my questions.
Ask me yours.
I'm all in.
Would be nice if some one would join in a dialogue rather than repetitious diatribes.
Gimme your best.

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Jan 17, 2024 14:39:21   #
Randyhartford Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.
I appreciate it.
Would have preferred direct answers to my questions.
Answers is what presents an opportunity for me to better understand (and maybe come around to) your understanding/view. I'm not here to argue or persuade; but rather broaden my understanding of contrary views. I can't learn from yada yadas.
Just my view on how I use language, in no way am I "suggesting" anything by simple question asks. I ask you try not to presume.
I am kinda disappointed that you seem to not have faith in the US Justice System, calling it "corrupt." Without this, what do we have? We are a well founded society of laws to this day.
Best to you & yours.
Stephen
Stephen
Thanks for the feedback. br I appreciate it. br Wo... (show quote)


You are right: “what DO we have?” I don’t think it is JUST our DOJ, or our immigration policy, or our lack of leadership.
I believe it is a deterioration in the family system, the country’s morals, and a general disregard for God and t***h. I don’t believe any e******n is going to, in itself, fix our country. It’s going to take a change of heart, mind, and action
(called repentance)
then much prayer, if we expect to save our country. It is not a battle between parties, but between good/
God and evil/Satan.

”Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.“
‭‭2 Chronicles‬ ‭7‬:‭14‬ ‭NLT‬‬

This is what I REALLY believe. 🙏🏻

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Jan 17, 2024 14:52:59   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
Randyhartford wrote:
You are right: “what DO we have?” I don’t think it is JUST our DOJ, or our immigration policy, or our lack of leadership.
I believe it is a deterioration in the family system, the country’s morals, and a general disregard for God and t***h. I don’t believe any e******n is going to, in itself, fix our country. It’s going to take a change of heart, mind, and action
(called repentance)
then much prayer, if we expect to save our country. It is not a battle between parties, but between good/
God and evil/Satan.

”Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.“
‭‭2 Chronicles‬ ‭7‬:‭14‬ ‭NLT‬‬

This is what I REALLY believe. 🙏🏻
You are right: “what DO we have?” I don’t think it... (show quote)


Hi Randy,
A couple comments (in my opinion):
Presidents do not determine immigration policy. This is solely a function of our Congress (which in my view has been delinquent for 20+years). They propose the bills, pass them and present them to the Executive Branch and the President signs them.
Re: "...a disregard for God..."
Come on, who can attest that our former president is not the most godless executive ever. You think he believes in God?
Not a chance from what I've seen.
Ever see him hold a Bible?

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Jan 17, 2024 15:40:30   #
Randyhartford Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
Hi Randy,
A couple comments (in my opinion):
Presidents do not determine immigration policy. This is solely a function of our Congress (which in my view has been delinquent for 20+years). They propose the bills, pass them and present them to the Executive Branch and the President signs them.
Re: "...a disregard for God..."
Come on, who can attest that our former president is not the most godless executive ever. You think he believes in God?
Not a chance from what I've seen.
Ever see him hold a Bible?
Hi Randy, br A couple comments (in my opinion): br... (show quote)


I know he believes in God, and yes, I have seen him hold a Bible.
You apparently don’t keep up with the news about the POTUS and immigration. He is the boss of his cabinet and has, and uses, his “executive” power to control the border. You need to do your homework;
your opinions don’t count any more than mine do. Have you ever seen ME hold a Bible? Nuff said!
Do you believe in God?

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Jan 17, 2024 16:13:51   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
Randyhartford wrote:
I know he believes in God, and yes, I have seen him hold a Bible.
You apparently don’t keep up with the news about the POTUS and immigration. He is the boss of his cabinet and has, and uses, his “executive” power to control the border. You need to do your homework;
your opinions don’t count any more than mine do. Have you ever seen ME hold a Bible? Nuff said!
Do you believe in God?


I'm not a big supporter of Executive Orders as they generally last only until the next party rules. To me this is no way to govern.
I may understand more than you give credit. Disappointed you offered the negative inference, from which I try my best to refrain.
I repeat it is Congress and only Congress who has the responsibility to pass immigration legislation. It IS that simple.
From this left-leaner, I offer those on the right want no part of solving our (agreed by me) immigration failures. It is the perfect e******n fodder. It's a k**ler issue for those. Politically, it needs to be perpetuated. It wins v**es.
To me, we rule by laws, not some executive (of wh**ever party) authority.
Best to you.
Stephen
I know I have offered little for you to trust...but trust me, he believes in no god.

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Jan 17, 2024 16:43:56   #
Randyhartford Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
I'm not a big supporter of Executive Orders as they generally last only until the next party rules. To me this is no way to govern.
I may understand more than you give credit. Disappointed you offered the negative inference, from which I try my best to refrain.
I repeat it is Congress and only Congress who has the responsibility to pass immigration legislation. It IS that simple.
From this left-leaner, I offer those on the right want no part of solving our (agreed by me) immigration failures. It is the perfect e******n fodder. It's a k**ler issue for those. Politically, it needs to be perpetuated. It wins v**es.
To me, we rule by laws, not some executive (of wh**ever party) authority.
Best to you.
Stephen
I know I have offered little for you to trust...but trust me, he believes in no god.
I'm not a big supporter of Executive Orders as the... (show quote)


I agree with you - we should NOT be governed by “Executive Orders”, but that IS what has happened with the border. You are misled about “those on the right” not wanting to fix the border. All one has to do is take one look at the stats from 3-4 years ago and now.
Finally, you’re right, I don’t trust you to decide who does or does not believe in God. DT says he does - who are you to say yay or nay?You apparently don’t know, or won’t say if even YOU believe in God. I DID ask you…

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Jan 17, 2024 16:57:14   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
Lockman54 wrote:
Better go to a different eye doctor. Get your eyes checked again for a second opinion!


?really that's your response to debate from a good question ?

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Jan 17, 2024 16:57:19   #
Randyhartford Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
I'm not a big supporter of Executive Orders as they generally last only until the next party rules. To me this is no way to govern.
I may understand more than you give credit. Disappointed you offered the negative inference, from which I try my best to refrain.
I repeat it is Congress and only Congress who has the responsibility to pass immigration legislation. It IS that simple.
From this left-leaner, I offer those on the right want no part of solving our (agreed by me) immigration failures. It is the perfect e******n fodder. It's a k**ler issue for those. Politically, it needs to be perpetuated. It wins v**es.
To me, we rule by laws, not some executive (of wh**ever party) authority.
Best to you.
Stephen
I know I have offered little for you to trust...but trust me, he believes in no god.
I'm not a big supporter of Executive Orders as the... (show quote)


It may help you to understand if you would expand the news you watch, so as to help remove your blinders. Not sure I have a solution to your outlook on God/god. DT believes in God with a capital “G”.

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Jan 17, 2024 17:03:41   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
I'm not a big supporter of Executive Orders as they generally last only until the next party rules. To me this is no way to govern.
I may understand more than you give credit. Disappointed you offered the negative inference, from which I try my best to refrain.
I repeat it is Congress and only Congress who has the responsibility to pass immigration legislation. It IS that simple.
From this left-leaner, I offer those on the right want no part of solving our (agreed by me) immigration failures. It is the perfect e******n fodder. It's a k**ler issue for those. Politically, it needs to be perpetuated. It wins v**es.
To me, we rule by laws, not some executive (of wh**ever party) authority.
Best to you.
Stephen
I know I have offered little for you to trust...but trust me, he believes in no god.
I'm not a big supporter of Executive Orders as the... (show quote)

It will never be enough Stephen ,, ask yourself Why would a dev**ed Christian be in the Attic ? I've been told that I walk on water, what a Croc , I just happen to be A Real American That will never relinquish my rights to a NonMan like the Orangeman , ,Stephen I wish you could have spoken to or texted to Spirit of 27 ,,,Paul my Friend ,,

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Jan 17, 2024 17:06:14   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
Jarheadfishnfool wrote:
It will never be enough Stephen ,, ask yourself Why would a dev**ed Christian be in the Attic ? I've been told that I walk on water, what a Croc , I just happen to be A Real American That will never relinquish my rights to a NonMan like the Orangeman , ,Stephen I wish you could have spoken to or texted to Spirit of 27 ,,,Paul my Friend ,,

I've got to leave the site for a bit Marvin Gaye is Singing !! Shhhhooouww

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Jan 17, 2024 17:29:48   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
Randyhartford wrote:
I agree with you - we should NOT be governed by “Executive Orders”, but that IS what has happened with the border. You are misled about “those on the right” not wanting to fix the border. All one has to do is take one look at the stats from 3-4 years ago and now.
Finally, you’re right, I don’t trust you to decide who does or does not believe in God. DT says he does - who are you to say yay or nay?You apparently don’t know, or won’t say if even YOU believe in God. I DID ask you…


Randy,
Two quick "points:"
If "those on the right" want to fix the border, why has the House not acted in over 10-years on the Senate Comprehensive Reform Act bill?
I suspect contrary to your vantage that I say I respect the gods of cultures not my own nor God of my own.
Be well.

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Jan 17, 2024 17:43:41   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
Randy,
Two quick "points:"
If "those on the right" want to fix the border, why has the House not acted in over 10-years on the Senate Comprehensive Reform Act bill?
I suspect contrary to your vantage that I say I respect the gods of cultures not my own nor God of my own.
Be well.


No matter the outcome of this Thread , Please Remember Where it Begins ,,🍀☹

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Jan 17, 2024 17:52:10   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
Randy,
Two quick "points:"
If "those on the right" want to fix the border, why has the House not acted in over 10-years on the Senate Comprehensive Reform Act bill?
I suspect contrary to your vantage that I say I respect the gods of cultures not my own nor God of my own.
Be well.




You hit the nail on the head several times. It’s normal for this guy to NOT answer any of your questions.

You’re exactly right about Don the Con NOT believing in god. He was recorded during a prayer at a gold Star family gathering. He said this is BS ( the whole two syllable word)

Funny This guy tells you you can’t claim who believes or doesn’t believe in god but he can tell you who does.

There is a double standard.

Donald Trump might tell people he wants to v**e for him that he believes in god but it doesn’t mean he is a good person. He is worst ever president and I agree with your statements and questions are exactly what happened. This guy on here says it’s all in the past and we need to be focused on what’s currently happening. Past behavior predicts future behavior.

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Jan 17, 2024 17:53:35   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
Jarheadfishnfool wrote:
It will never be enough Stephen ,, ask yourself Why would a dev**ed Christian be in the Attic ? I've been told that I walk on water, what a Croc , I just happen to be A Real American That will never relinquish my rights to a NonMan like the Orangeman , ,Stephen I wish you could have spoken to or texted to Spirit of 27 ,,,Paul my Friend ,,


Hey, man.
Good to hear from you.
I think the question is becoming something like 'what is a "dev**ed Christian" these days?'
Seems somehow different to me now.
Re: your "NonMan..." reference:
I know them as "boys," but I get the other description. Is that a Devil Dog thing?
As a general bleeding heart and one who has experienced significant family mental illness in my lifetime, I see DJT as sad. Can only make my own presumption that there was neglect &/or abuse in his past. Developmentally an 8-year old.
To be prayed for.
Can never be in the Oval again.
Who's Paul?

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