new year a new tax (Page 2): Love what said !! They keep this up I'll buy a horse and buggy that's what I think of the electric car !! My daughter and son in law have one, they paid...

Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.

DC wrote:

well tonight rings in a new year and in Washington... (show quote)

Love what said !!
They keep this up I'll buy a horse and buggy that's what I think of the electric car !!
My daughter and son in law have one, they paid 60,000 been in it once!!
Have a great year and good fishing and safe times on the water

Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.

Bcmech1 wrote:

I'm one who looks at history. I found out that I9... (show quote)

They told us that in California also Southern California they built a toll road though the hills towards the beach ⛱️
Told us it would be paid for in 20yrs ,what a lie it been paid for 3x's over and the toll access keeps going up !!
Man did we get screwed.
Thank God I don't live there anymore.

Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA

Andy cacciatori wrote:

They told us that in California also Southern California they built a toll road though the hills towards the beach ⛱️
Told us it would be paid for in 20yrs ,what a lie it been paid for 3x's over and the toll access keeps going up !!
Man did we get screwed.
Thank God I don't live there anymore.

Unfortunately they get addicted to the money. You really can believe a lot of politicians.

Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.

Kerry Hansen wrote:

Unfortunately they get addicted to the money. You really can believe a lot of politicians.

That's for dam sure.!!

Larry M Loc: North Clairmount, San Diego

DozerDave wrote:

So how will they track “miles driven” the honor system? Yeah, right. Just like honest tax payers…

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Here in California when you get your vehicle smog test the odometer mileage is taken, they will just compare it to your last smog test mileage.

DC Loc: Washington state

Larry M wrote:

Here in California when you get your vehicle smog test the odometer mileage is taken, they will just compare it to your last smog test mileage.

they finally did away with smog tests here. they found the vast majority of cars were new enough they didn't have a problem and the tests were not nessisary. I'm thinking the real reason was they were losing money instead of making money other wise they would keep on testing even if it was pointless

DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.

Larry M wrote:

Here in California when you get your vehicle smog test the odometer mileage is taken, they will just compare it to your last smog test mileage.

So, how will you be billed? Annually? Where as when we buy gas we pay when we purchase. Some could be hit hard annually. And what about vehicles that are exempt. Oh, btw. EV’s don’t get smog checked. Just say’n…

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Larry M Loc: North Clairmount, San Diego

DC wrote:

they finally did away with smog tests here. they found the vast majority of cars were new enough they didn't have a problem and the tests were not nessisary. I'm thinking the real reason was they were losing money instead of making money other wise they would keep on testing even if it was pointless

The last time I took the 22 year old truck in they didn’t even test it just looked to see if the smog equipment was there so I paid them to just look at the truck.
They told me that the old test with the engine running wasn’t used anymore.

DC Loc: Washington state

DozerDave wrote:

So, how will you be billed? Annually? Where as when we buy gas we pay when we purchase. Some could be hit hard annually. And what about vehicles that are exempt. Oh, btw. EV’s don’t get smog checked. Just say’n…

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oh if they ever really catch on ( popular not fire) they will institute yearly battery safety checks so they don't catch on ( fire not popularity) at the same smog testing stations

Jeremy Loc: America

Kerry Hansen wrote:

Yes just like the Politicians did with Social Security.

I don’t mind my Social Security but at least it didn’t get abolished. Look back in History. George JR wanted it to go away. I’m sure it doesn’t matter to his base he calls them. The rich. But the Social Security I receive still exists on the planet I live on.

DC Loc: Washington state

Jeremy wrote:

I don’t mind my Social Security but at least it didn’t get abolished. Look back in History. George JR wanted it to go away. I’m sure it doesn’t matter to his base he calls them. The rich. But the Social Security I receive still exists on the planet I live on.

true for us old guys but we would have been much better off as would the younger generation. if all or even the employees portion would have been allowed ti be placed in the employees private IRA, 401 account instead. at least give everyone the option of what way they want to go. over my 50 year work career I would much rather have been invested in a balanced portfolio than the government then I would have seen a good growth instead of just a bunch of IO U that we have in social security. there are laws against private companies raiding retirement accounts but the government does it all the time making it basically a pyramid scheme that in the next 15 years or so will go bankrupt. but the way I am far from being a rich guy

Jeremy Loc: America

DC wrote:

oh if they ever really catch on ( popular not fire) they will institute yearly battery safety checks so they don't catch on ( fire not popularity) at the same smog testing stations

DC. A safety check would be great like in Germany where vehicles are required to meet minimum safety requirements where they go 100+mph.

Washington got rid of their Air Quality Vehicle Inspection Stations.

Safety Inspections would be a good thing even if all vehicles only go 60mph but no one wants to spend what it costs to pay the common man or lady to do it.

The responsibility should be on the manufacturer that makes huge profits. Assuming any Government has extra cash to start a new Agency would be just that.

Oregon still has an Air Quality Vehicle Inspection Station but they are trained on Air Quality and how to properly screen cars for Emissions as required by Federal Law but not inspect for fire hazards on electric vehicles.

I think your suggestion is good but you know how much everyone h**es paying for an inspection that the Vehicle Manufacturer should provide being as their bank account is huge.

Just my two cents on the topic that is the Business I was in for several decades.

Jeremy Loc: America

DC wrote:

true for us old guys but we would have been much b... (show quote)

I think you and whoever did it that way would have done OK but you must of forgotten about Enron and the guy ( private dishonest jerk ) that sunk everyone’s 401k accounts.

All the malarkey about Social Security is just that. Anyone remember what Don the Con did with some of it? Space Force. The thing many don’t want to admit that constantly claim SS is broke and going to be gone is that current employees pay into it and it could easily be earning interest.

I’m not worried about SS but it would be nice when Don the Con and Putin and the rest of the evil types put an end to the war with Ukraine. Then the gasoline that has been dropping in cost could continue to.

Whose fault is it that it’s dropped while Joe is in there? Just something that has come to mind lately how could fuel prices drop if Joe is the only detail in why it went up?

DC Loc: Washington state

Jeremy wrote:

I think you and whoever did it that way would have... (show quote)

I know you h**e president Trump but the SS problems started many presidents before him and both parties raided it and used it as a v**e getting tool opened it up to peo0le that never paid I to it and made it a pay as you go pyramid type thing. the problem that we now have and is getting worse is there are more on SS than are working paying into it. yes Enron was bad but this with a balanced portfolio really did hurt by their corruption as much as we all have been hurt by our government corruption in both parties. and if you don't think it is still happening during this administration every bit asuch or more than the last administration you have political blinders on

plumbob Loc: New Windsor Maryland

Jeremy wrote:

I don’t mind my Social Security but at least it didn’t get abolished. Look back in History. George JR wanted it to go away. I’m sure it doesn’t matter to his base he calls them. The rich. But the Social Security I receive still exists on the planet I live on.

Social Security? Do you mean Disability. You are a little to young to be getting Social Security.