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Jul 25, 2022 15:25:17   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?

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Jul 25, 2022 15:32:38   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
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I’ve poured straight, white, vinegar on broadleaf weeds and it worked pretty good at getting rid of them.

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Jul 25, 2022 15:48:27   #
Slimshady Loc: Central Pennsylvania
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
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I have fly and it does work. We put it in the side walk cracks at camp and it killed everything in them and lasted almost all summer

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Jul 25, 2022 15:49:04   #
Big dog Loc: Bayshore, Long Island, New York
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day abou... (show quote)


Well, there was a time in my life when I was full of’Piss and Vinegar.
I’m out of vinegar, but the other stuff kills the weeds along my fence line.! Takes a while but it sure does work !!

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Jul 25, 2022 16:01:21   #
Whitey Loc: Southeast ohio
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day abou... (show quote)


Fly I haven't myself but my SIL did an he wasn't impressed with the vinegar but said it did slow it down. I told him to try it again it's better than roundup 🤔

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Jul 25, 2022 16:49:52   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
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I have never heard about the vinegar formula killing weeds, but would be interested in your results after you have applied it.

I have actually used and proven that varsol, a solvent, will kill Johnson grass. First, mow the area to be treated, then apply with a sprayer the stumps of the Johnson grass with varsol. This killed probably 90 to 95% of all the grass. One more treatment and all, 100% was killed. Now what affect this would have on butterflys I cannot predict. It might be too harmful. Just Sayin...RJS

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Jul 25, 2022 17:07:51   #
charlykilo Loc: Garden Valley Ca
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day abou... (show quote)


Vinegar as a safe weed killer??? Nobody said it was safe for the butterflies? That was the issue.

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Jul 25, 2022 17:09:16   #
DCGravity Loc: Fairfax, VA (by way of Cleveland OH)
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day abou... (show quote)


Wasn't me, Flyguy, but I do remember reading the post. Maybe it was PNW DC? That said, I have noticed the steadily declining numbers of not just monarchs but all butterflies in general over the past few years. Gonna have to research the weed killer alternatives. Still have a jug of Round Up sitting in the shed collecting dust and cobwebs which I haven't touched in almost 10 yrs. but have given its proper disposal low priority.

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Jul 25, 2022 20:27:11   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
I picked up 3 gallons and I'm going to try it tomorrow. It's probably cheaper than the weed killer. I let you know how it works. It may take a while.

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Jul 25, 2022 20:31:04   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
DCGravity wrote:
Wasn't me, Flyguy, but I do remember reading the post. Maybe it was PNW DC? That said, I have noticed the steadily declining numbers of not just monarchs but all butterflies in general over the past few years. Gonna have to research the weed killer alternatives. Still have a jug of Round Up sitting in the shed collecting dust and cobwebs which I haven't touched in almost 10 yrs. but have given its proper disposal low priority.


Sorry, DCG, I thought it was you. Hopefully, no harm was done. That wasn't the only mistake I made today, they were many, so what's new?

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Jul 25, 2022 21:20:54   #
DCGravity Loc: Fairfax, VA (by way of Cleveland OH)
 
flyguy wrote:
Sorry, DCG, I thought it was you. Hopefully, no harm was done. That wasn't the only mistake I made today, they were many, so what's new?


No harm, no foul flyguy! I'm honored and quite flattered that a respected founding father of the Stage even recognizes my handle! I really do want to dispose of that jug of Roundup but I'm always too cheap to pay the disposal fee at the town dump. I'll have to give the straight vinegar a try. Little skeptical about salt getting in the soil though.

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Jul 26, 2022 08:36:44   #
JKD
 
YES - it does work, although not as effective as Round Up

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Jul 26, 2022 14:23:00   #
Jim Sargent Loc: Payson, AZ
 
JKD wrote:
YES - it does work, although not as effective as Round Up


I agree. I use it regularly. Better for the environment but not as effective as commercial weed killer.

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Jul 26, 2022 15:55:32   #
IROLL Loc: San Martin Ca.
 
flyguy wrote:
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day about the decline of the monarch Butterfly. It has declined 85% in the past years. He indicated that it was possibly due to the use of weed spray on the milkweed plant. Not only does it kill the plant but possibly the butterfly when it lites on it to lay the eggs. I did some research on the internet and it said that if you mix 1 gallon of white vinegar with a cup of table salt and a tablespoon full of dish soap, it would kill all weeds and grasses. I'm going to try it, have any of you ever tried it?
DCGravity was talking in a post the other day abou... (show quote)


I use it a lot as I am on a well and don’t want Roundup in my drinking water. I have found that mixing regular white vinegar with a stronger (30%) version in a 50/50 ratio works much better. You can buy the stronger stuff at Home Depot for around $20 per gallon. The regular strength I buy at Costco for about $3 per gallon. I don’t bother adding salt although some people use Epsom Salt which is less harmful to the soil.

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Jul 26, 2022 19:16:55   #
charlykilo Loc: Garden Valley Ca
 
You have talked this to death. But originally the question was about wildlife safe weed killer. Is the vinegar /salt /soap proven to be butterfly etc. safe?

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