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Jan 10, 2022 22:13:58   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
saw1 wrote:
If it was mine, I would have given it to him also. I'm just generous that way.


Me to Saw but rumor has it that BB would take that fish away from the bear

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Jan 10, 2022 22:17:27   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
NoCal Steve wrote:
Me to Saw but rumor has it that BB would take that fish away from the bear


Lol, I wouldn't put it past him.

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Jan 11, 2022 00:59:47   #
Papa Bear JD Loc: Interlochen, Michigan
 
E.pa.al wrote:
Didn't think there was brown bear in ny🤔


As a point of fact, there are brown bears in New York. Not the species that are in the Pacific North West (Alaska ect.) but a brown color phase of the Black Bear.

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Jan 12, 2022 14:03:40   #
Harris T. Fudpucker Loc: Lafayette, Louisiana
 
E.pa.al wrote:
Didn't think there was brown bear in ny🤔


Brown bear, is a name given to a grizzly. To earn the name, it has to be within 100 miles of salt water. That is what I was told in Alaska, by the F&G.

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Jan 12, 2022 14:10:51   #
hacksaw Loc: Pasadena, Texas
 
Larry M wrote:
Looks like someone lost their fish after gutting it.


It can have it with my blessings.
Hack 🇺🇸🍺🍺🕊

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Jan 12, 2022 14:30:41   #
Harris T. Fudpucker Loc: Lafayette, Louisiana
 
Papa Bear JD wrote:
As a point of fact, there are brown bears in New York. Not the species that are in the Pacific North West (Alaska ect.) but a brown color phase of the Black Bear.


That is a 'cinamin' color phase. Black bears come in black, brown, and blue! I have a picture of the blue one, called 'glacier' bears in Alaska.

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Jan 12, 2022 14:49:57   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
E.pa.al wrote:
Didn't think there was brown bear in ny🤔


The brown bear (species) are
an off-shoot/sub-species of the grizzly family, so will only be found
in/near the Pacific Northwest and
the Alaskan/Canadian coast !

Black bears (species) come in
various colors/shades from a
frosty blue/white to yellowish tan,
to cinnamon/dark brown to pure black, but all are considered to be 'black bears' regardless of color !

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Jan 12, 2022 16:14:49   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Harris T. Fudpucker wrote:
Brown bear, is a name given to a grizzly. To earn the name, it has to be within 100 miles of salt water. That is what I was told in Alaska, by the F&G.


Brown Bear are usually much larger than inland bears, because they have the salmon to feed on. The published info in Alaska generally refers to the brown bear as any grizzly that has access to prolific salmon waters. Saying 100 miles from the ocean makes for a simple answer, given that explaining the exceptions would be cumbersome and most tourist don't really care. They just want a simple answer to impress their friends at home. Kodak Brown Bears are actually listed by biologist as a true subspecies growing only on Kodiak Island. They have been isolated for twelve thousand years from the mainland brown bears. Thus any genetic changes over that time are not transferred back and forth. The main visible changes are that the Kodiak bears grows bigger and are heavier boned than the mainland brown bears. If it helps to clear things up, or confuse them, brown bears, Kodiak brown bears, Toklat grizzlies and grizzlies are all grizzlies regardless of color.

Black bears are a different species than grizzlies. Black bears (the species) can be black, brown, blond, glacial, occasionally albino white, two toned and anything in-between. They are still black bears.

Kodiak Brown Bears are the largest land bear. Technically, polar bears can get bigger, but they are classified as a marine mammal. Personally, I see that as picking fly specks out of the pepper.

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Jan 12, 2022 16:21:17   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
All I know is that when I'm archery hunting for Elk..... if it looks like a bear, smells like a bear, growls like a bear...IT'S A BEAR!!!!!!!

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Jan 12, 2022 16:56:55   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
NoCal Steve wrote:
All I know is that when I'm archery hunting for Elk..... if it looks like a bear, smells like a bear, growls like a bear...IT'S A BEAR!!!!!!!


That is all you really need to know. Guiding out of King Salmon and in Katmai park, I have had numerous very close encounters with Brown bears including jaw bopping and false charges. I have hiked Denali and encountered my share of Grizzlies there as well. Yet, the only bear I have been forced to shoot was just across the inlet from Anchorage. It was a black bear that insisted on sharing my camper, even after an argument through the side window and then the back door he broke open.

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Jan 12, 2022 17:26:51   #
Harris T. Fudpucker Loc: Lafayette, Louisiana
 
bapabear, I have had my share of 'close encounters'. Black bear came in the tree with me, I do believe she though I was food, for her three cubs, at the base of the tree. At that moment, I had just counted 23 bears at my bait. Most was 2yr olds. Then came three big black bears, one of them, was brownish. The one in the middle is the one I shot, and scored 18 5/8" and squared 6'4". I was dressing out the bear, when a real 'brown bear' came in. When he was coming thru, it sounded like a bulldozer. Stood, maybe 8' and when he scatched the tree, marking it, I could not reach the marks, even with my bow in my hand.

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Jan 12, 2022 17:44:24   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Harris T. Fudpucker wrote:
bapabear, I have had my share of 'close encounters'. Black bear came in the tree with me, I do believe she though I was food, for her three cubs, at the base of the tree. At that moment, I had just counted 23 bears at my bait. Most was 2yr olds. Then came three big black bears, one of them, was brownish. The one in the middle is the one I shot, and scored 18 5/8" and squared 6'4". I was dressing out the bear, when a real 'brown bear' came in. When he was coming thru, it sounded like a bulldozer. Stood, maybe 8' and when he scatched the tree, marking it, I could not reach the marks, even with my bow in my hand.
bapabear, I have had my share of 'close encounters... (show quote)


I hate bear encounters when cleaning game or have fish on the bank. Fishing Alaska is a lot more relaxing in a boat.
You are lucky the grizzly did not carry off the carcass or your carcass for that matter.

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Jan 12, 2022 21:33:52   #
Harris T. Fudpucker Loc: Lafayette, Louisiana
 
bapabear wrote:
I hate bear encounters when cleaning game or have fish on the bank. Fishing Alaska is a lot more relaxing in a boat.
You are lucky the grizzly did not carry off the carcass or your carcass for that matter.


I left him a gut pile and then dragged the carcass away. He didn't follow. Yes I had a .45 magnum handgun, and my bow, but looking back at that day, it would have done as much good as a Mattel toy rifle.
I also had one brownie follow me, while I dragged a deer back to camp. Never got up close. One of the other guys, took a deer and tied it on his backpack. He thought he had it caught on a branch, and pulled hard, and it pulled back. Dropped his pack and let the bear run off with it.

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Jan 12, 2022 21:41:12   #
Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)
 
Harris T. Fudpucker wrote:
... ... One of the other guys, took a deer and tied it on his backpack. He thought he had it caught on a branch, and pulled hard, and it pulled back. Dropped his pack and let the bear run off with it.


¡¡Man!! = ¡THAT'S "too close for comfort"! (That must've been one STEALTHY bear!!!)

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Jan 12, 2022 22:13:33   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Able Man wrote:
¡¡Man!! = ¡THAT'S "too close for comfort"! (That must've been one STEALTHY bear!!!)

all bears can be stealthy. They are just there and as quick they are gone. I think they get their training from cougars. Harris, just out of curiosity, were you hunting on Kodiak or Montague island?

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