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Jan 7, 2022 19:06:34   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
DC wrote:
Ivey we have a fundimental different view of the president's responsibility I do not see his responsibility as assuring the safety off ALL citizens. ultimatelly that is our own responseabiliy. if you read Article II section 2 that gives the powers of the presidency I don't think you will see he is responseible for the safety of us citizens. All summer long last year when cities were under attack it was the loacal and state authorities that failed to use the police under their juridiction to restore order and on J****** 6 it was the House of Representatives and U.S. Senate that had statutory oversight responsibilities for the United States C*****l P****e and their failure to protect the capital.
Ivey we have a fundimental different view of the p... (show quote)


Having a different view doesn’t change the fact the Trump caused this. The people breaking laws to o*******w the e******n results have nothing to do with the people breaking laws for the B*M activities. They both are wrong to break the law. Someone can have a different view but the law and the responsibility of the President doesn’t change.

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Jan 7, 2022 19:08:11   #
Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.
 
Jeremy wrote:
Exactly. He also is who caused it. To say he didn’t encourage it and wasn’t the reason is crazy. He wanted to change the fact that the E******n was fair and was over. I don’t think a rally after you lost should even of happened.

To blame anyone other than Trump is a cop out. There have been 700 + arrests.

Trump should of also been arrested over this and press charges for an accessory to all the deaths and crimes.

Sad point about this he did not lose. Any one with a brain knows that !!
Biden did not win he won by c***ting and shame on us for letting it happen !!
And how do you like your government now and your gas prices and food price.
And we all know he's not running our country.
It's some one else and all know who it is.
Time for Trump to come back with the Florida Governor.
Amen

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Jan 7, 2022 19:08:49   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Jarheadfishnfool wrote:
Fact check ; trump never did offer the guard , he began saying that at a rally months after the i**********n, check it out it's pretty easy, 1 more of his many lies,


I’m not sure if he is capable of telling the t***h. He isn’t capable of supporting Democracy which is a very sad state of affairs for any president to do that. Lie and lie and then lie when you get caught in a lie.

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Jan 7, 2022 19:10:13   #
Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.
 
Jeremy wrote:
I agree when are people going to wake up and accept the reality who was at fault and who is trying to convince everyone of false information like saying the e******n results were not accurate? I was awake for 4 years witnessing people threatening Democracy if he didn’t win. Everyone should except Democracy instead of going against it. The e******n was investigated many times. All of Trumps bogus statements have been proven wrong. I agree WHEN will people wake up to reality and stop believing his bogus statements?
I agree when are people going to wake up and accep... (show quote)

What world do you live in!!??

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Jan 7, 2022 19:11:43   #
FourchonLa. Loc: Fourchon Louisiana, South Louisiana
 
Andy cacciatori wrote:
Sad point about this he did not lose. Any one with a brain knows that !!
Biden did not win he won by c***ting and shame on us for letting it happen !!
And how do you like your government now and your gas prices and food price.
And we all know he's not running our country.
It's some one else and all know who it is.
Time for Trump to come back with the Florida Governor.
Amen


https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/12/by-the-numbers-president-trump-makes-the-case-for-widespread-e******n-f***d/

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Jan 7, 2022 19:14:03   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Andy cacciatori wrote:
Sad point about this he did not lose. Any one with a brain knows that !!
Biden did not win he won by c***ting and shame on us for letting it happen !!
And how do you like your government now and your gas prices and food price.
And we all know he's not running our country.
It's some one else and all know who it is.
Time for Trump to come back with the Florida Governor.
Amen



A brain ? Really? Well my brain knows Trump is a liar and he always has been one. All of his Bogus lawsuits over the e******n were thrown out. All of them. How would anyone with a Brain still support the crook? The e******n was not r****d. That’s what Trump wants you to believe. C***d19 has more to do with inflation currently than the office of the President. It’s like the bogus statements by Trump about economy when he c***ted his way in with Russia the first time.

My investments did just fine for 10 years before he got in and they still are doing fine.

Anyone that believes either party can control everything about the economy or money market don’t understand in the first place.

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Jan 7, 2022 19:16:04   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Andy cacciatori wrote:
What world do you live in!!??


US. Where Democracy is and should always be. Not the opposite.

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Jan 7, 2022 19:25:16   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Andy cacciatori wrote:
My opinion is this was a set up that members of the Democratic party set up it was a trap and it worked !!
That's why the true has and will never be let out.
You can call me crazy 🤪
But think about it !!
Until we win the House and Senate in 22
We will never hear the t***h.
Hearing the president and vice president yesterday made me sick to my stomach and the f**e news.
And that's being nice.
I would be in trouble if I said how I really feel. Love our Nation can wait to get it back!!
Have a good week
Andy
My opinion is this was a set up that members of th... (show quote)


So your claim is that the US Public only gets told everything that’s going on when a Republican is in the office of the President? That is Crazy. You even said it. Yes I do think your crazy when it comes to this sort of belief. Also if you think Democrats are why Trump told a bunch of i***ts to try and o*******w the e******n is even crazier. Trump basically endangered his VP as well as many others. I agree there is a bunch of other checks and balances like Four posted in a link. FBI and others etc but the day it all happened Trump didn’t tell them to stop until after chaos by his followers had occurred.

Trumpers were threatening this crap for years on Social Media and now that’s what the FBI used to track down a lot of these i***ts that make statements on electronic devices that never considered it is stored and traceable forever. If it was Dems then Dems would be who got arrested.

I like your posts about fishing and hunting and family stuff I think your a really neat person but this Political stance and assumptions are nuts buddy.

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Jan 7, 2022 19:25:35   #
Ivey Loc: South Central Tennessee, Tim's Ford Lake
 
Andy cacciatori wrote:
Sad point about this he did not lose. Any one with a brain knows that !!
Biden did not win he won by c***ting and shame on us for letting it happen !!
And how do you like your government now and your gas prices and food price.
And we all know he's not running our country.
It's some one else and all know who it is.
Time for Trump to come back with the Florida Governor.
Amen


If you really believe he didn't lose then I have nothing else to say to you. The proof is in my corner here and the courts back that up. SO I guess I don't have a brain because I believe the t***h, the courts and e******n officials all across the country....

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Jan 7, 2022 19:27:44   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Ivey wrote:
If you really believe he didn't lose then I have nothing else to say to you. The proof is in my corner here and the courts back that up. SO I guess I don't have a brain because I believe the t***h....


I’m with you sir. I think it’s a waste of our energy and evening to even engage with some of these topics.

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Jan 7, 2022 19:33:35   #
Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.
 
Jeremy wrote:
US. Where Democracy is and should always be. Not the opposite.


Jeremy
You belive in what you want!!
It's not worth 😕 discussing it any more , I'm not the only one who feels this way.
I'll v**e for him agian and so will other civilian. It a same about all the lies that were spread about him and his family 👪.
Can't believe some people fell for it !!
Why were the Democrat so afraid 😨 of him.
But look what you have now!!
Have a good day

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Jan 7, 2022 19:35:19   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
Andy yes I'm crazy but in another way , me I'm an American born Citizen in more ways than one, but to call us all crazy? I know you say you h**e this ,and you h**e that, but if you h**e Cali. that much and us ,maybe its time to move, the Orange Man has duped you my friend, Good Luck and May God Bless You,,,,,,,,

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Jan 7, 2022 20:17:21   #
Anybass Loc: Pa.
 
Ivey wrote:
The National Guard is at the beck and call of the President, doesn't matter what was done before the attack on th capitol. What matters is what the president didn't do during the attack. It's called, dereliction of duty.


The dereliction of duty falls on the Speaker of the House and the DC Mayor. The President by law, cannot bring in the National Guard unless the Mayor and or Speaker request them. So my big question is why does anyone want to disregard their responsibility and try to find some bogeyman instead of placing blame squarely where it belongs. To do otherwise is simply making an excuse for piss poor and dangerous management. When the elephant is in the room, looking for pepper specs makes absolutely no sense. And why do the pepper spec cadre ignore the Ray Epps elephant. When you see Epps blinders and tower i***t calling for storming the Capitol, one might begin to surmise that this "insurection" was planned, but not by those people the left and media want to blame.
And keep in mind, none of the people arrested have been charged with the big bad word, i**********n. But yet many of these individuals have not had their day in court, many are still in custody away from parents, friends and jobs, some of whom were never in the Capitol itself. Be thankful that your day has not come where the government doesn't like what you have to say or where you find yourself peacefully. Those that actually caused damage should be dealt with appropriately but within the parameters of the law, not some arbitrary h**e punishment.

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Jan 7, 2022 20:41:59   #
Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.
 
Anybass wrote:
The dereliction of duty falls on the Speaker of the House and the DC Mayor. The President by law, cannot bring in the National Guard unless the Mayor and or Speaker request them. So my big question is why does anyone want to disregard their responsibility and try to find some bogeyman instead of placing blame squarely where it belongs. To do otherwise is simply making an excuse for piss poor and dangerous management. When the elephant is in the room, looking for pepper specs makes absolutely no sense. And why do the pepper spec cadre ignore the Ray Epps elephant. When you see Epps blinders and tower i***t calling for storming the Capitol, one might begin to surmise that this "insurection" was planned, but not by those people the left and media want to blame.
And keep in mind, none of the people arrested have been charged with the big bad word, i**********n. But yet many of these individuals have not had their day in court, many are still in custody away from parents, friends and jobs, some of whom were never in the Capitol itself. Be thankful that your day has not come where the government doesn't like what you have to say or where you find yourself peacefully. Those that actually caused damage should be dealt with appropriately but within the parameters of the law, not some arbitrary h**e punishment.
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Thank you Anybass
Andy

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Jan 7, 2022 21:07:11   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Anybass wrote:
The dereliction of duty falls on the Speaker of the House and the DC Mayor. The President by law, cannot bring in the National Guard unless the Mayor and or Speaker request them. So my big question is why does anyone want to disregard their responsibility and try to find some bogeyman instead of placing blame squarely where it belongs. To do otherwise is simply making an excuse for piss poor and dangerous management. When the elephant is in the room, looking for pepper specs makes absolutely no sense. And why do the pepper spec cadre ignore the Ray Epps elephant. When you see Epps blinders and tower i***t calling for storming the Capitol, one might begin to surmise that this "insurection" was planned, but not by those people the left and media want to blame.
And keep in mind, none of the people arrested have been charged with the big bad word, i**********n. But yet many of these individuals have not had their day in court, many are still in custody away from parents, friends and jobs, some of whom were never in the Capitol itself. Be thankful that your day has not come where the government doesn't like what you have to say or where you find yourself peacefully. Those that actually caused damage should be dealt with appropriately but within the parameters of the law, not some arbitrary h**e punishment.
The dereliction of duty falls on the Speaker of th... (show quote)


So your saying a day will come when we no longer have freedom of speech.

The President Trump is a derelict in life anyway. His presidency is the later proof of it. His university was a s**m. He is a derelict in the first place. His followers are who are getting fooled by his lies.

Regardless of N Guard Trump caused the whole thing in the first place. He gave them all permission as their cult leader to March down to the Capital. He should of never had a rally after the e******n was over anyway. Because he is a sore loser and thought he could o*******w the situation doesn’t change the fact that he is responsible for it anyway. He is a loser and anyone that falls for his bogus statements will reap what they sow. Trump was a criminal and his family are criminals and always have been. He has i*****l a***ns working for him in his Las Vegas Business. Under the table. He told them if you don’t keep working under the table ( illegal employment actions) he would report them to immigration.

It’s ok for him to have illegally paid employees but no one else can?

Trump was told he was not allowed to own any businesses while he was in the office of President ( conflict of interest) he never did what he was told. He should be jailed for that let alone the many other illegal things he has done.

One reason he didn’t want to leave the office was because he knew he would be in courts over many of his wrongdoings. To support a known criminal should be illegal.

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