What is scientific proof? Is scientific proof just proof because a scientist says it is? I, personally, don’t know a scientist. 🤷‍♂️...

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Is scientific proof just proof because a scientist says it is? I, personally, don’t know a scientist. 🤷‍♂️

Sinker Rig Loc: Tampa area

Catfish h****r wrote:

Is scientific proof just proof because a scientist says it is? I, personally, don’t know a scientist. 🤷‍♂️

Ask Dr. F***i....he's our resident genuis

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Sinker Rig wrote:

Ask Dr. F***i....he's our resident genuis

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Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA

Catfish h****r wrote:

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There is no scientific proof of anything I can think of. There is only scientific evidence which can be evaluated by anyone willing to put in the time. Scientific evidence is openly published and subject to review, generally by peers, but available to all. Science works. Period. Do you own a cell phone? It ain't friggin magic.

You know me. I'm a scientist, or at least consider myself one. Maybe not by your definition? I don't know what your definition is.

DC Loc: Washington state

[quote=Spiritof27]There is no scientific proof of anything I can think of. There is only scientific evidence which can be evaluated by anyone willing to put in the time. Scientific evidence is openly published and subject to review, generally by peers, but available to all. Science works. Period. Do you own a cell phone? It ain't friggin magic.

Well I think I agree with you Spiritof27 for the most part as I remember from my school days with was way back before there was dirt, it went something like this 1. observation 2. hypotheses 3. testing 4. theory 5. more testing more theories ect ect until it is finally accepted yet it is only accepted as true until it is disproven. So when people say "I follow the science" and refuse to allow that "science" to be constantly evaluated and questioned they are not following the science. Science only works if there is a constant level of skepticism other wise it just becomes like a broken down car in the middle of the road which once worked but no longer does.

Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA

Absolutely correct DC. It is very nearly an oxymoron to say that "the science is settled". Science is never settled. Even mathematics, which does have proofs, is not settled. I guess arithmetic is settled. 2 + 2 always equals 4, at least in a base 10 system. In a base 3 system it would be 11. But the same rules always apply. There's very little in our particular universe that is "settled" or proven. What we are left with is best guesses, based on scientific research. But those best guesses got us to the Moon. Of course, for some people, that's not settled either.

Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)

Spiritof27 wrote:

There is no scientific proof of anything I can think of. There is only scientific evidence which can be evaluated by anyone willing to put in the time. Scientific evidence is openly published and subject to review, generally by peers, but available to all. Science works. Period. Do you own a cell phone? It ain't friggin magic.

You know me. I'm a scientist, or at least consider myself one. Maybe not by your definition? I don't know what your definition is.

I believe the same as you do Spirit. Evidence. Just wondering why some people call it proof when I’ve never seen scientific proof of anything either.

Flytier Loc: Wilmington Delaware

What many people see as scientific proof is not. Proof involves time as well as facts. Gravity has been around a long time and has never been found to not work. That's a proof. A theory is different. That's an explanation of how something could work, much more a work in progress

rapala54 Loc: Nappanee,IN.

Sounds like a political or some government thing. Too much this early sorry Spirit.

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

Catfish h****r wrote:

Is scientific proof just proof because a scientist says it is? I, personally, don’t know a scientist. 🤷‍♂️

As I recall from high school Physics Class; a "Scientific Proof" always includes "repeatable results" ... Every time a man throws a rock off of a cliff, it drops. There's your PROOF of gravity.
When it comes to diseases, we're now in "the realm of" Biology. Living organisms have a tendency to "evolve" or "mutate", over a period of time, in many observed instances. (I'm NOT trying to say, that we all "came from" monkeys!)
If a person, within "controlled conditions" can produce the same results, repeatedly... That's SCIENCE. Every time I walk over to the wall by the door and flip that little switch one way or the other... The light at the center of my ceiling either turns on or off... That is; as long as the "pull chain switch" is left in the closed position. That's SCIENCE. ... The example of the light switch, involves "a variable", frequently expressed with "If-Then Statements"... For example: "If the pull chain switch is in the closed position and I then raise the light switch lever on the wall; my lights will turn on."

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

[quote=Spiritof27]There is no scientific proof of anything I can think of. ... ...
Science works. Period. Do you own a cell phone? It ain't friggin magic. ...

Hell, EVERYBODY knows that ALL electronics "run on" SMOKE!!!
Just watch, the next time you "let all the smoke out of" any electronic device; I betchya it quits working, right then and there!!!

Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA

And I was taught (a long time ago) in Navy tech school, that FM stands for F**king Magic. And you are correct Able Man about the smoke. But it's the individual components in there that run on it. Let the smoke out of a resistor or a t***sistor or an integrated circuit, they're done for.

Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)

Spiritof27 wrote:

And I was taught (a long time ago) in Navy tech school, that FM stands for F**king Magic. And you are correct Able Man about the smoke. But it's the individual components in there that run on it. Let the smoke out of a resistor or a t***sistor or an integrated circuit, they're done for.

Yup, ¡TOAST!

JimRed Loc: Coastal New Jersey, Belmar area

"There is no scientific proof of anything I can think of."

Gravity. The proof can be endlessly repeated, by simply holding things up and releasing them.

Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA

Demonstrating that a thing works is not proof of how it works. We would need to turn our attention to the general theory of relativity to discuss proof. I don' know about you, but that's waaaaay over this ol sailor's head.
Dropping an object and watching it hit the floor is a piece of easily presented and reproduced evidence. Developing a theory for why that happens is where science comes in, and that is being constantly evaluated and re-evaluated, and there is no "proof" that the theory is correct, only more evidence to point toward its correctness or incorrectness. I stand by my statement. For now.