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Jul 22, 2021 17:51:36   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
I's just thinking, probably you or I wouldn't know a Gentlemen's Warehouse suit from a $20000 bespoke. Kinda like wearing a Rolex. A 25 dollar Timex keeps time just about as well. You wear a Timex if you want to know what time it is. You wear a Rolex if you're trying to make a statement. A very ambiguous statement in my view. What is it you're trying to say?

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Jul 22, 2021 18:10:29   #
ranger632 Loc: Near Yosemite Park Ca.
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
I's just thinking, probably you or I wouldn't know a Gentlemen's Warehouse suit from a $20000 bespoke. Kinda like wearing a Rolex. A 25 dollar Timex keeps time just about as well. You wear a Timex if you want to know what time it is. You wear a Rolex if you're trying to make a statement. A very ambiguous statement in my view. What is it you're trying to say?



You are right on all accounts, and guess what ----- I just brought a new Timex

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Jul 22, 2021 18:25:42   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
ranger632 wrote:
Growing up in the 50 and 60's in the country most felt that way, and the guys in suits thought guys in bib-overalls were hicks, not bad mouthing anyone just saying how times were where I grew up.


Ignorance existed then. Ignorance exists now. Here's a novel concept, how about getting to know someone and how they treat you and others rather than judging them immediately on what they are wearing. Pretty radical idea, right?

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Jul 22, 2021 18:27:00   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Well, there are a lot of steriotypes, and most of them are wrong. A pair of coveralls or overalls, does not make a hick, not a suit make one an expert in some field.

However, as a financial advisor for Merrill Lynch, and later for Smith Barney and after their acquisition by Morgan Stanley, I was an Senior VP, and if I had come to a conference with some of my wealthiest clients in a pair of coveralls, bib overalls, or such, I probably would have been fired!

Some jobs are o.k. to dress casual, but not all!

At one time I had the account of a Senior VP of Shell Oil. He fired me because i didn't call and update him of the market and conditions every week. I didn't think it necessary, but he did! Just Sayin....RJS

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Jul 22, 2021 18:32:07   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
Well, there are a lot of steriotypes, and most of them are wrong. A pair of coveralls or overalls, does not make a hick, not a suit make one an expert in some field.

However, as a financial advisor for Merrill Lynch, and later for Smith Barney and after their acquisition by Morgan Stanley, I was an Senior VP, and if I had come to a conference with some of my wealthiest clients in a pair of coveralls, bib overalls, or such, I probably would have been fired!

Some jobs are o.k. to dress casual, but not all jobs and not all parts of the country. When you are across the conference table from a client who is trusting you to manage his ten million dollar portfolio, you had better pay attention to all details, including what you are wearing. Just Sayin....RJS
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I agree. You do what is necessary for the job. My comment referred to a specific comment and judging someone's character.

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Jul 22, 2021 19:02:23   #
ranger632 Loc: Near Yosemite Park Ca.
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
Ignorance existed then. Ignorance exists now. Here's a novel concept, how about getting to know someone and how they treat you and others rather than judging them immediately on what they are wearing. Pretty radical idea, right?


Here is a radical idea, don't get so nutted up. I was just talking in general terms and if that upset you I am so sorry. Do you know what would be a great radical idea, people need to learn to kick back and don't take life so serious. Have a good day.

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Jul 22, 2021 19:19:47   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
ranger632 wrote:
Here is a radical idea, don't get so nutted up. I was just talking in general terms and if that upset you I am so sorry. Do you know what would be a great radical idea, people need to learn to kick back and don't take life so serious. Have a good day.


Not "nutted up." Not upset. On the serious scale, it's way down on the list. Lighten up. Have a good one.

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Jul 22, 2021 19:45:54   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
ranger632 wrote:
Here is a radical idea, don't get so nutted up. I was just talking in general terms and if that upset you I am so sorry. Do you know what would be a great radical idea, people need to learn to kick back and don't take life so serious. Have a good day.


Had a good buddy back in the late 60's worked for a firm called The Associates. He was a CPA. He drove a black on black 1967 Mercedes sedan, not because he liked it, but because it was required. In his garage he kept a Harley, but if he was caught driving it he could have been fired. And a closet with three or four grey flannel suits. He looked like one of the MIB except for the shades - back in those days those could have gotten you fired too. The very definition of up tight. He was not a happy man. Forced into this mold by corporate America. Didn't matter how good of an accountant he was. I found that very sad at the time, and still do to this day. RJ you mentioned Admirals, commands often get inspected by Admirals. Lieutenants and Ensigns often make the mistake of wanting their shops aboard ship to be sparkling ultra tidy. Then comes the Admiral and says "do you guys ever do any work in here". White glove clean is not what the Admiral is looking for. He wants results. My shops produced. But if you visited on a Wednesday, you might get a little dirt on you.

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Jul 22, 2021 19:51:36   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
Had a good buddy back in the late 60's worked for a firm called The Associates. He was a CPA. He drove a black on black 1967 Mercedes sedan, not because he liked it, but because it was required. In his garage he kept a Harley, but if he was caught driving it he could have been fired. And a closet with three or four grey flannel suits. He looked like one of the MIB except for the shades - back in those days those could have gotten you fired too. The very definition of up tight. He was not a happy man. Forced into this mold by corporate America. Didn't matter how good of an accountant he was. I found that very sad at the time, and still do to this day. RJ you mentioned Admirals, commands often get inspected by Admirals. Lieutenants and Ensigns often make the mistake of wanting their shops aboard ship to be sparkling ultra tidy. Then comes the Admiral and says "do you guys ever do any work in here". White glove clean is not what the Admiral is looking for. He wants results. My shops produced. But if you visited on a Wednesday, you might get a little dirt on you.
Had a good buddy back in the late 60's worked for ... (show quote)


You can put a tuxedo on a gorilla, but it's still a gorilla.

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Jul 22, 2021 19:51:45   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Spirit: I have never had a problem with men in khakis, that is all my father ever wore, or the men in our neighborhood. I definitely came from a blue collar background.

I usually bought my suits from tailors in Bangkok, Thailand. You do what customs calls for in the community where you live. I don't know where you got the idea that a man in a suit had a stick up his rear. Or anyone else, for that matter. I don't know a lot about the 'druthers' of California, but I know a lot about those in Texas, and that's what I've always lived by, and done so successfully. Just Sayin....RJS

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Jul 22, 2021 20:02:46   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
I don't know RJ, something about the tone of your post just rubbed me the wrong way. I used to interview a lot of people for jobs, and unless they showed up in dirty shabby clothes, I never paid too much attention to what they were wearing. I was way more interested in wether or not they could get the job done. That's just me.

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Jul 22, 2021 20:26:41   #
ranger632 Loc: Near Yosemite Park Ca.
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
You can put a tuxedo on a gorilla, but it's still a gorilla.


But its a nice looking gorilla

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Jul 22, 2021 20:31:14   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
ranger632 wrote:
But its a nice looking gorilla



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Jul 22, 2021 21:08:25   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
ranger632 wrote:
Gentlemen's Warehouse ?? I thought that was where poor went to dress up.


Really ? Have you checked their
prices lately ? No paupers shopping there, I assure you ! You may be thinking of Robert Hall suits, which was what I started with back in high school !

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Jul 22, 2021 21:15:22   #
Big A Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
I's just thinking, probably you or I wouldn't know a Gentlemen's Warehouse suit from a $20000 bespoke. Kinda like wearing a Rolex. A 25 dollar Timex keeps time just about as well. You wear a Timex if you want to know what time it is. You wear a Rolex if you're trying to make a statement. A very ambiguous statement in my view. What is it you're trying to say?


I believe the message those people are trying to convey is - "Look at me !
I'm a successful business man ! I can afford to advertise the fact that I make enough to have a 'disposable income' !"

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