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May 16, 2021 14:51:57   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
[quote=DC]
Catfish h****r wrote:

of course you are correct 1st it is the liberals that think they have the right to demand everyone do as they do and do not believe in personal freedom unless it is their own 2nd the total number of deaths this last year is about the same as the total number of deaths each year for the past 4 years which means c***d while I am sure many many people died as the result statistically most of the deaths were among people with heart conditions, lung issues, or other health related issues (like old age) that they most likely would of died from anyway. Not saying c***d is not real, or caused a lot of deaths just that it has been way way over played for political reasons and the people of our country would have been much better served if we were given accurate information instead of whipping up fear and dividing people and turning them against each other. The only thing I criticize others for is those who have symptoms like a cough or high fever and instead of staying home go out in the general public knowing they are spreading what ever they have I don't care if it is c***d ** or the common cold if you are sick and know you are sick stay home take care of yourself and don't spread it to others while it is a gift that may keep giving it is not a gift anyone wants from you.
br of course you are correct 1st it is the liber... (show quote)


Yup. I’ve said it many times. If I’m sick I stay home. If I know someone is sick I don’t go around them. Pretty simple concept. Although media says you can have the c***d19 v***s and not have any symptoms the same is true with the cold or flu. It’s just nuts to assume you have a v***s without any symptoms and volunteer to shut your life down just in case. Current data shows, of the supposed 500,000 deaths due to c***d19, nearly 400,000 of them are elderly folks in care facilities. The rest are deaths due to c***d19 “related” circumstances. I’ve researched the daylights out of this as well and you’re right about the,over-all, numbers per year. It’s just more being blamed on a certain factor now instead of being spread out where it really belongs. The last and final time I went to central Oregon they reported 8000 new c***d19 cases and not a single case of the flu. It was right in the heart of flu season and for some reason NOBODY had the flu as compared to several thousand the previous year. 🤔.

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May 18, 2021 11:41:24   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
DC wrote:
I don't think you can get that from the book of Numbers or from what Jesus said. Have you ever read the book of Numbers? Doesn't sound like it and Jesus sure wasn't talking about taking some v*****e He was talking about the spiritual battle with Him at the center so it would be best not to twist what the Bible says for your own purposes that will not end well. Having said that the v*****e for C***d has had a higher percentage of negative side affects and deaths than any of the flu v*****es and while it appears to be effective it is not perfect by any means but more effective than the normal flu shot. while there seems to be a death rate of something like 6000 out of the 1.5 million dosses given that is something like .oo4% while so far out of 350,000,000 people in our country 33,045,000 have been diagnosed with c***d and 590,000 death have occurred which is about .018% but those numbers are most likely not accurate sinc many people had it and were never diagnosed and many of the c***d deaths were people who died with c***d not because of c***d. So yes it is a numbers game with these figures you have about a 4.5% higher chance of dieing of c***d than you have of dieing from the v*****e. So is the risk worth the benefit? every one needs to make that determination themselves based on their risk vs benefit calculations. Of course the more people that have had c***d and survived and those who get the shot the less likely you are of being exposed to c***d so the benefit vs the risk changes in favor of not getting the v*****e. I have had c***d and I have also had both shots. I like many others who have had the shot would never put pressure on others to get the shot. It makes no difference to me one way or the other and will not effect me one way or another and I think it is wrong to ask businesses to but pressure on people to get the shot if they don't want it. If you think you are at risk and the shot will benefit you then take it if not then don't but either way the choice is yours to make and you will have to live or die with the choice you make. Just don't try to twist scripture to support your position.
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How does anyone know how it’s been more effective than the flu shot? It’s still in experimental stages. Just curious. Several people have been tested positive for c***d19 and have been very sick AFTER receiving the v*****e. Just wondering how anyone can say it’s more effective than a flu shot. My info comes from friends in the medical field. Not sites on the internet or media.

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May 18, 2021 15:08:38   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
[quote=DC]
Catfish h****r wrote:

of course you are correct 1st it is the liberals that think they have the right to demand everyone do as they do and do not believe in personal freedom unless it is their own 2nd the total number of deaths this last year is about the same as the total number of deaths each year for the past 4 years which means c***d while I am sure many many people died as the result statistically most of the deaths were among people with heart conditions, lung issues, or other health related issues (like old age) that they most likely would of died from anyway. Not saying c***d is not real, or caused a lot of deaths just that it has been way way over played for political reasons and the people of our country would have been much better served if we were given accurate information instead of whipping up fear and dividing people and turning them against each other. The only thing I criticize others for is those who have symptoms like a cough or high fever and instead of staying home go out in the general public knowing they are spreading what ever they have I don't care if it is c***d ** or the common cold if you are sick and know you are sick stay home take care of yourself and don't spread it to others while it is a gift that may keep giving it is not a gift anyone wants from you.
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Now that you mention it I haven’t been, negatively, criticized by anyone who hasn’t, proudly, expressed their love for extreme liberal thinking.🤔. I just don’t engage in conversation with them. Just smile and say “your entitled to your opinion. Just like me.”

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May 18, 2021 17:12:19   #
Americanman28
 
Unfortunately, they usually don't think you are entitled to your opinion! They'll just give you theirs and tell you to shut up or call you a r****t, homophobe, etc. etc.

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May 18, 2021 22:00:09   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Americanman28 wrote:
Unfortunately, they usually don't think you are entitled to your opinion! They'll just give you theirs and tell you to shut up or call you a r****t, homophobe, etc. etc.


I’ve witnessed that. It’s why I don’t offer my opinion to those convicting me before even knowing who I am. I simply say “you’re entitled to your opinion just like I am”. Most will continue on to say I don’t have a clue what I’m talking about even though I haven’t said anything. It’s very apparent they are one sided, closed minded and very controlling. There’s no reasoning with those types of people so I don’t waste my time on em. I just continue on with what MY opinion says I should do.

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May 18, 2021 23:39:08   #
Truckintom Loc: DAYTONA BEACH
 
I got the 2 shot Vax at the VA. 1st. Made me a little weak,headache from hell(entire head) and slight fever,gone in couple days,2nd shot made me sweat by the gallons when sleeping, felt like I had an 80 pound feed sack on my shoulders for a week. It was a roll of the dice for me. I have not had a flu shot for over 40 years. Time will tell

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May 23, 2021 12:19:02   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Just learned that, of the millions of “confirmed” cases of positive c***d19 tests, only one in five are scientifically proven. If we can’t get an honest answer from those claiming the results how can we get an honest answer from those same people about the v*****e?

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May 23, 2021 12:33:49   #
Truckintom Loc: DAYTONA BEACH
 
Truckintom wrote:
I got the 2 shot Vax at the VA. 1st. Made me a little weak,headache from hell(entire head) and slight fever,gone in couple days,2nd shot made me sweat by the gallons when sleeping, felt like I had an 80 pound feed sack on my shoulders for a week. It was a roll of the dice for me. I have not had a flu shot for over 40 years. Time will tell
. This Beauty was a lot of fun in 45 sea's out in the Pacific . Knowing what is within your control and that which is not will ease the mind.
Believe nothing you hear and less than half of what you see.



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May 23, 2021 12:52:51   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Truckintom wrote:
. This Beauty was a lot of fun in 45 sea's out in the Pacific . Knowing what is within your control and that which is not will ease the mind.
Believe nothing you hear and less than half of what you see.


Very true.👍. I have a decent information source and it’s not the media. Friend and client in the medical field.

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