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May 5, 2021 14:48:01   #
baitrunner Loc: Jensen Beach, Florida
 
I wrote the following letter to Rob Pue , publisher of the Wisconsin Christian News and he wants to use it in his newspaper. I'm sorry guys; but we are not all on the same page.

Regarding article; "To Vax or not to Vax".

Alien vs God
If I don't know if someone is telling the t***h or not, then why would I follow him? Likewise, If I know for certain that someone is telling the t***h, then why would I not follow him?
It's clear to me, that this v*****e is not so much about a v***s as it is about deception. I have overwhelming evidence that when board members who were entrusted to handle the money and affairs of our park, follow a secret system of taking money that doesn't belong to them, they become part of a secret society. They're different. Elite.
I see the v*****e as I see the money. The v*****e can work as a perfect tool of deception. Some are now saying that it could give the "powers that be" control over whether we live or die. If we are friends of the new system we live, if we are enemies of the state, we die. It wouldn't matter whether or not this were true, it would only matter what we believe. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not.
I don't buy that Trump is telling the t***h about his taking the v*****e just because of some of his good accomplishments. I do believe in controlled opposition. That's politics.
Need I apologize for putting my trust in Jesus Christ and not the world system? Am I wrong when I stop listening to politicians and men and women that follow politicians and just start listening to the only thing that I have learned that I can trust by following? Look where following Politicians have led us. How can I not believe in deception? And because I follow, how can I not believe in Jesus Christ?
I say that the powers that be have power only when people have nothing else to believe in except the world system.

"For those of you that have not known the depths of Satan, hold on to what you've got until I come". (Revelation, 2:24-25 NKJV)

Scott


Thank you Scott. I would be interested in possibly using this as a Letter to the Editor, but need to include your city and state with it if I do… please let me know what that is, if you’d like me to use the letter.
Thanks,
Rob
Rob Pue, Publisher
WISCONSIN CHRISTIAN NEWS
225780 Rib Mountain Dr., #229
Wausau, WI 54401

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May 5, 2021 15:36:00   #
justafishingguy Loc: Florida
 
The same could be said about the Polio v*****e, chicken pox,small pox, etc. Sometimes you have to put your trust in science. Yeah the politicians puff up their chests saying how they were the ones that pushed the v*****e,but I believe science and the brains that come up with the v*****e are smarter then all the politicians. I just can't put all my trust in one thing or person. I know of 2 people in their early 30's that died from C***d, all within a week of getting it. (no v*****e then) Believe in what you want, but my money is in science. After all didn't God create them to make the v*****e to help mankind?!

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May 5, 2021 16:00:24   #
Americanman28
 
Thanks for your letter, Baitrunner. This is the issue of this time. I believe all that has been done - especially the shots - is more about control than it is about any sort of "cure" for C***D. Wearing a mask, closing down small businesses and schools. The potential for "v*****e" passports to provide access to stores, travel, etc.

From all that I have read - from many sources - these shots are NOT v*****es. The way the M-RNA works can actually have a long term detrimental affect on your body's future ability to fight off v***ses - whether those future v***ses area related to C***D on not.
No long term studies have been done - admittedly because of the Warp Speed required to get the v*****e.
The survival rate (or rate of crippling permanently as in the case of Polio or measles is 95% plus - and even higher in younger people, so why the need for the shots in the first place?
There are potential negative effects from the shots on people's reproductive capabilities - again, not yet vetted fully, but if I was younger and wanted a family at some point in my future, I would make sure before getting any shot.
Most importantly, all of these used aborted fetal tissue in their testing, and that is the line in the sand for me.

And, BTW, all those smart guys in science also created thalidomide.

I will keep my faith in Him, where it belongs, and pass on the shot, too.

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May 5, 2021 16:11:24   #
justafishingguy Loc: Florida
 
I will keep my faith in Him, where it belongs, and pass on the shot, too.[/quote]

Well, good luck with that but my money is on science for now.

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May 5, 2021 16:57:36   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
The same can be said for just about anything you'd like to mention. There is a lot of corruption in the world and there are all kinds of bad folks trying to get control of your money by wh**ever means possible. That's just the way the world works. Deal with it, best you can.

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May 5, 2021 17:19:40   #
baitrunner Loc: Jensen Beach, Florida
 
Americanman28 wrote:
Thanks for your letter, Baitrunner. This is the issue of this time. I believe all that has been done - especially the shots - is more about control than it is about any sort of "cure" for C***D. Wearing a mask, closing down small businesses and schools. The potential for "v*****e" passports to provide access to stores, travel, etc.

From all that I have read - from many sources - these shots are NOT v*****es. The way the M-RNA works can actually have a long term detrimental affect on your body's future ability to fight off v***ses - whether those future v***ses area related to C***D on not.
No long term studies have been done - admittedly because of the Warp Speed required to get the v*****e.
The survival rate (or rate of crippling permanently as in the case of Polio or measles is 95% plus - and even higher in younger people, so why the need for the shots in the first place?
There are potential negative effects from the shots on people's reproductive capabilities - again, not yet vetted fully, but if I was younger and wanted a family at some point in my future, I would make sure before getting any shot.
Most importantly, all of these used aborted fetal tissue in their testing, and that is the line in the sand for me.

And, BTW, all those smart guys in science also created thalidomide.

I will keep my faith in Him, where it belongs, and pass on the shot, too.
Thanks for your letter, Baitrunner. This is the i... (show quote)


Amen

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May 5, 2021 18:13:09   #
Americanman28
 
And, good luck to you on that.

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May 15, 2021 01:08:50   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
baitrunner wrote:
I wrote the following letter to Rob Pue , publisher of the Wisconsin Christian News and he wants to use it in his newspaper. I'm sorry guys; but we are not all on the same page.

Regarding article; "To Vax or not to Vax".

Alien vs God
If I don't know if someone is telling the t***h or not, then why would I follow him? Likewise, If I know for certain that someone is telling the t***h, then why would I not follow him?
It's clear to me, that this v*****e is not so much about a v***s as it is about deception. I have overwhelming evidence that when board members who were entrusted to handle the money and affairs of our park, follow a secret system of taking money that doesn't belong to them, they become part of a secret society. They're different. Elite.
I see the v*****e as I see the money. The v*****e can work as a perfect tool of deception. Some are now saying that it could give the "powers that be" control over whether we live or die. If we are friends of the new system we live, if we are enemies of the state, we die. It wouldn't matter whether or not this were true, it would only matter what we believe. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not.
I don't buy that Trump is telling the t***h about his taking the v*****e just because of some of his good accomplishments. I do believe in controlled opposition. That's politics.
Need I apologize for putting my trust in Jesus Christ and not the world system? Am I wrong when I stop listening to politicians and men and women that follow politicians and just start listening to the only thing that I have learned that I can trust by following? Look where following Politicians have led us. How can I not believe in deception? And because I follow, how can I not believe in Jesus Christ?
I say that the powers that be have power only when people have nothing else to believe in except the world system.

"For those of you that have not known the depths of Satan, hold on to what you've got until I come". (Revelation, 2:24-25 NKJV)

Scott


Thank you Scott. I would be interested in possibly using this as a Letter to the Editor, but need to include your city and state with it if I do… please let me know what that is, if you’d like me to use the letter.
Thanks,
Rob
Rob Pue, Publisher
WISCONSIN CHRISTIAN NEWS
225780 Rib Mountain Dr., #229
Wausau, WI 54401
I wrote the following letter to Rob Pue , publishe... (show quote)



👍. What you said.

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May 15, 2021 09:20:26   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
justafishingguy wrote:
The same could be said about the Polio v*****e, chicken pox,small pox, etc. Sometimes you have to put your trust in science. Yeah the politicians puff up their chests saying how they were the ones that pushed the v*****e,but I believe science and the brains that come up with the v*****e are smarter then all the politicians. I just can't put all my trust in one thing or person. I know of 2 people in their early 30's that died from C***d, all within a week of getting it. (no v*****e then) Believe in what you want, but my money is in science. After all didn't God create them to make the v*****e to help mankind?!
The same could be said about the Polio v*****e, ch... (show quote)


I have the same story but different end of the situation. 2 that died immediately after getting the v*****e. One early 30s and one mid 60s. Both a picture of health just prior to the v*****e. It’s a crap shoot at best. I’m not so sure I’m gonna trust science on this one. It’s hard to say who scientists are working for right now. Blackmailing people by restricting flights and entry to various buildings and or events because they don’t trust a v*****e that has zero proven benefits, using that to try to cause people to get v******ted, telling people they can take off their masks and get back to a normal life only if they’ve been fully v******ted, is un-American in my opinion. Lots of others are thinking the same way now. Numbers are skewed immensely and it’s getting harder and harder to trust anything any more.

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May 15, 2021 10:45:41   #
baitrunner Loc: Jensen Beach, Florida
 
I agree Catfish. Regarding what you said about the numbers being skewed immensely; I read a political statement saying that "most people have gotten the v*****e but they need to keep 'chipping away' at the stragglers". As the number of v******ted people increase so that v******ted people are more able to support the economy, than so will the restrictions increase for those of us that don't get the v*****e. There is a book in the bible titled "Numbers", so numbers are something we need to pay attention to. Jesus said; "you are either for Me or against Me" so according to numbers, those that get the v*****e will be working toward bringing persecution to those that do not.
Thanks for bringing that up.

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May 15, 2021 18:15:43   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
baitrunner wrote:
I agree Catfish. Regarding what you said about the numbers being skewed immensely; I read a political statement saying that "most people have gotten the v*****e but they need to keep 'chipping away' at the stragglers". As the number of v******ted people increase so that v******ted people are more able to support the economy, than so will the restrictions increase for those of us that don't get the v*****e. There is a book in the bible titled "Numbers", so numbers are something we need to pay attention to. Jesus said; "you are either for Me or against Me" so according to numbers, those that get the v*****e will be working toward bringing persecution to those that do not.
Thanks for bringing that up.
I agree Catfish. Regarding what you said about the... (show quote)


I don't think you can get that from the book of Numbers or from what Jesus said. Have you ever read the book of Numbers? Doesn't sound like it and Jesus sure wasn't talking about taking some v*****e He was talking about the spiritual battle with Him at the center so it would be best not to twist what the Bible says for your own purposes that will not end well. Having said that the v*****e for C***d has had a higher percentage of negative side affects and deaths than any of the flu v*****es and while it appears to be effective it is not perfect by any means but more effective than the normal flu shot. while there seems to be a death rate of something like 6000 out of the 1.5 million dosses given that is something like .oo4% while so far out of 350,000,000 people in our country 33,045,000 have been diagnosed with c***d and 590,000 death have occurred which is about .018% but those numbers are most likely not accurate sinc many people had it and were never diagnosed and many of the c***d deaths were people who died with c***d not because of c***d. So yes it is a numbers game with these figures you have about a 4.5% higher chance of dieing of c***d than you have of dieing from the v*****e. So is the risk worth the benefit? every one needs to make that determination themselves based on their risk vs benefit calculations. Of course the more people that have had c***d and survived and those who get the shot the less likely you are of being exposed to c***d so the benefit vs the risk changes in favor of not getting the v*****e. I have had c***d and I have also had both shots. I like many others who have had the shot would never put pressure on others to get the shot. It makes no difference to me one way or the other and will not effect me one way or another and I think it is wrong to ask businesses to but pressure on people to get the shot if they don't want it. If you think you are at risk and the shot will benefit you then take it if not then don't but either way the choice is yours to make and you will have to live or die with the choice you make. Just don't try to twist scripture to support your position.

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May 15, 2021 18:49:17   #
baitrunner Loc: Jensen Beach, Florida
 
don't try to twist scripture to support your position.

you will have to live or die with the choice you make.

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May 15, 2021 21:01:24   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
ha nice quote and I agree but just add "either way the choice is yours to make" and don't let anyone make it for you or you make it for them.

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May 15, 2021 23:00:59   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
DC wrote:
ha nice quote and I agree but just add "either way the choice is yours to make" and don't let anyone make it for you or you make it for them.


That makes total sense to me. 👍I’ve never, negatively, criticized anyone for wearing a mask or getting the v*****e but I sure catch it the other way around. People are telling me I need to wear a mask, I need to get the v*****e, I need to do this or that. I never tell anyone that. If we look at the number of deaths related to c***d19 we will see they are all “c***d19 related” deaths. The “related” part is the misleading part of it. Having clients and close friends in the medical field I’ve learned that anything that happens during a “p******c” is related to that “p******c”. I, personally, know two people who passed during this p******c who were not positive for c***d19, didn’t display any symptoms of c***d19 but were still listed as “c***d19 related deaths”. One being a 62 year old female that died of a massive brain aneurysm and couldn’t go to the hospital. The other being an older gentleman, 77, who died of a massive heart attack. Both people were not allowed to seek medical attention and both died at home and were listed as “c***d19 related deaths. The lady that died of the brain aneurysm dialed 911, they sent a c***d response team to her house, treated her for c***d19 symptoms she didn’t have (gave her a large dose of antibiotics and hydrated her) told her if she didn’t feel better in 48 hours to call again. Her son founder deceased the next afternoon after several attempts to contact her by phone and via text message. Still sitting in the recliner the c***d response team worked on her in. Time of death was 45 minutes after the c***d response team left her. The wife of the older gentleman pleaded with her doctor to get him to the hospital. He’d had numerous issues with his heart over the years. The doctor told her they couldn’t take him to the hospital because of c***d19. They would send someone right away. A nurse showed up when he was almost gone and called emergency services immediately. He passed away before emergency response to get to him. “C***d19 related death” is what his death certificate says. I can only guess I’m not the only person in the entire country who knows of these types of situations. Our friend’s cousin was k**led in a car accident in route to see his dying father. His death was listed as “c***d related” and I suppose that would be correct. Had he not been attempting to see his dying father (who was NOT dying from c***d19 at the age of 97) during a p******c it would not have been related to the p******c. His father was also listed as a “c***d related” death. I think, pretty much, everybody I’ve heard of who’s died during the p******c is “c***d related” in one way or another.

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May 16, 2021 12:28:41   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
[quote=Catfish h****r]
of course you are correct 1st it is the liberals that think they have the right to demand everyone do as they do and do not believe in personal freedom unless it is their own 2nd the total number of deaths this last year is about the same as the total number of deaths each year for the past 4 years which means c***d while I am sure many many people died as the result statistically most of the deaths were among people with heart conditions, lung issues, or other health related issues (like old age) that they most likely would of died from anyway. Not saying c***d is not real, or caused a lot of deaths just that it has been way way over played for political reasons and the people of our country would have been much better served if we were given accurate information instead of whipping up fear and dividing people and turning them against each other. The only thing I criticize others for is those who have symptoms like a cough or high fever and instead of staying home go out in the general public knowing they are spreading what ever they have I don't care if it is c***d ** or the common cold if you are sick and know you are sick stay home take care of yourself and don't spread it to others while it is a gift that may keep giving it is not a gift anyone wants from you.

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