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Oct 16, 2020 13:53:12   #
Able Man Loc: North Coast (Cleveland, Ohio)
 
Be sure not to cut the "tag-end" too short.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:37:03   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
FS Digest wrote:
So I’ve been having issues with my knots lately. A couple break offs with fish even 1 break off just casting. I’m mainly using the improved clinch knot. It’a pretty straightforward knot to tie so I don’t know what my issue is. Also I’m using braided line could that be the problem? Thanks!

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by SneakyP27


I started fishing using clinch and improved clinch, but when the new super braid came out, and using that knot, I thought the braid broke, but in reality it just snaked undone so I read the literature that came with the "Spider Wire" super braid, one of the first out there, and it said the correct knot to use was the "UNI" knot. I started using that knot and have never had a problem using it on Spider Wire or any of the other brands of Super Braid. I also have never had the problem with "Super Braid" breaking like some have complained. I use it and use it and every once in a while when the last few feet starts to get a little "fuzzy" I just cut it off making a new end of the line. I have also seen where some said the "Super braid" broke near their lure, but it was actually the type of knot they were using slipping undone.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:39:48   #
captjim Loc: Antioch Ca
 
FS Digest wrote:
So I’ve been having issues with my knots lately. A couple break offs with fish even 1 break off just casting. I’m mainly using the improved clinch knot. It’a pretty straightforward knot to tie so I don’t know what my issue is. Also I’m using braided line could that be the problem? Thanks!

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by SneakyP27


I have found that with braid many knots that are for rope will work well. Many of the first braided lines were so rough that the line would not slide through like a mono line. Many of the more recent braids have a coating that makes the line slide more easily against itself. To attach a swivel, snap etc. I use the good ol' basic Palomar knot I have used this knot since cub scouts and it has never failed. The thing I like about a Palomar is that the line that did rub against itself is what you trim out. No weakened line in the knot from rubbing against itself. So simple I can tie it in the dark! For tying a loop on the end of braid line I use a bowline. Again very basic been using it all my life.

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Oct 16, 2020 14:49:24   #
Ben Bragg Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Improved clinch isn’t a very good knot with braid. Braid doesn’t have the “grip” necessary for many knots to be effective
Try this instead . It’s called a double polomar knot
Instead of one wrap for the over hand knot, make a second wrap.
Snug it as usual, pass the loop over the hook as usual and cinch it tight.
Trim tag

You can google double polomar for illustration.
Never had this knot fail

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Oct 16, 2020 16:20:27   #
FinFisherman Loc: Born in Ohio - 40 yrs Florida- Clearwater,Fl
 
FS Digest wrote:
At a certain point tying a knot is more muscle memory than anything else, which can be a good thing, unless it's not. If you get into the habit of making the same mistake repeatedly (over instead of under, left instead of right), you're going to get into a series of failing knots and you might not even realize it.

I haven't dealt with this particular version of the yips before, but if I was I think I might try to reteach myself the basic knots left handed. That would force me to rewatch video tutorials, relearn the motions, and hopefully I'd learn it the right way. Maybe trying to learn it left handed would help me identify what I'm doing wrong right handed.

Speaking of videos, maybe get someone to video you tying a couple of knots so you can compare what you do with what you see people in tutorials doing. Maybe that will help you figure the problem out.

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by ecklesweb
At a certain point tying a knot is more muscle mem... (show quote)


Spit on the knot.

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Oct 16, 2020 16:28:50   #
MannyGutierrez597_yahoo.com
 
Step 1. Check that your fishing line is not old and tattered. 2. Tie a Palomar knot, those knots are like tattoos, they never come off. 3. Check that your test pound line can handle the amount of weights which you are using and also compensate for the yank or extra pull created when the line and rig smashes the surface. If you use swivels on your line, repeat as above. Just saying and good fishing Pal. Remember the old saying..." God does not deduct from your life the time you spend fishing".

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Oct 16, 2020 17:40:31   #
Tyee Loc: Normal, Illinois
 
Paloma and spit!!

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Oct 16, 2020 19:15:29   #
Captain Lahti Loc: Kennewick, WA
 
Palomar is the recommended knot for braid, line to lure or hook. catching big steelhead,m never had a proble.

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Oct 16, 2020 20:32:30   #
MannyGutierrez597_yahoo.com
 
Palomar knots are the best ever and I have tried all of them. spit included. I caught a 13.6 # catfish on a Palomar knot at Irvine Lake California on 10/3/20. For California this catfish is big. In the South that is a baby cat I know that. lol

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Oct 16, 2020 23:53:56   #
DALE KEIRNS Loc: OHIO
 
UNI KNOT, OR CRAZY ROBUTO KNOTS VERY GOOD TO LEARN!😎

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Oct 18, 2020 14:42:16   #
bknecht Loc: Northeast pa
 
There used to be a segment on a fishing show called “knot wars”. They used sofisticated equipment to reliably determine knot breaking strength for line to terminal tackle and line to line connections. The polymer knot was at the top of the list for line to terminal tackle and is extraordinarily easy to tie!

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Oct 18, 2020 16:21:26   #
Gary Northrop Loc: Richland WA
 
When tying the Trilene or double clinch knot with either braid or mono,
always take your thumb and pointer fingers (nails) to snugly slide the
knot down all the way against the hook eye before final tightening.

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