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May 27, 2020 13:02:55   #
Big dog Loc: Bayshore, Long Island, New York
 
FixorFish wrote:
Just last week, watched an episode of the great show we have in the PNW , out of Portland.... Outdoor GPS, on the NBCSportsNW channel. Big segment on Pikeminnow. All the above by Catfish Hunter...on the money facts. Native fish, but used to be smallish, with far less appetite, before the alteration of flow by mainly Bonneville Dam (or the way my buddy spells it..."B-ville Damn"). And yeah, the PC Police "re-named" it. (We have Big Squaw and Little Squaw lakes nearby, as well as Squaw Mtn..... even the Native Americans don't want the name changed !)
The show had the ODFW official in charge of the program on, giving a short history and the particulars of the program. The host, Owin Hayes, mused that he had thus far, failed to get the "champion" Pikeminnow fisherman on the show, and has asked him multiple times to appear or at least, give an interview electronically...no dice ! This is a guy who "works" (lol) at it 5 months a year. Regularly breaks $100,000/year, $119,000 one year!
While there are very few who actually make a living at it, as their only income, MANY make $10-20k. The payout is $5/fish for the first 25, it scales up to $8/fish after 200, cumulative. There are "tagged" ones worth $500 each ! (Looking at CH's pic above, that might be one of those).
The long-term goal is NOT the total elimination (they ARE a native fish), just management of the SIZE, since obviously, bigger fish eat LOTS of salmon smolts, smaller fish...fewer. "We are simply trying to give the smolts a better chance", was the Director's point of view. A truly interesting approach to try to "fix" what man created by putting in the dams. Apparently the "big-uns" just sit below the outflow and gorge themselves on smolts that have been dis-oriented after going through the same....easy pickings.

Now then... WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE SEALS (who eat adult salmon), THE CORMORANTS, AND MERGANSERS, who pick off the smolts resting in slack water, in preparation for heading to the ocean ??!! At this point, with those four predators, our hatchery plants are merely "feeding" them, with half of the smolts never seeing saltwater. Aaah, trying to "manage" wildlife... seemingly, an exercise in futility, imo, but I suppose kudos for trying, I guess. Man creates a dilemma (the dams) and then scrambles to fix it. The "myth of Sisyphus" in real life, huh ? Oh well, at least some folks are doing their best to mitigate the problems, I'm just glad they aren't ignoring it altogether.... it's our west coast "Red Tide", lol.
My reply, regarding carp....I'm one of those kids who came home with carp hanging off the handlebars, as well,... only to have Mom say "get those nasty things out of here, put 'em out near the garden, I'm planting peas and beans tomorrow" !
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May 27, 2020 14:22:02   #
Frank romero Loc: Clovis, NM
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
That's our dirty little secret on here. Nobody likes to admit that they enjoy fishing for and catching carp. But they sure are fun, aren't they? I'm in California so I got no idea where you'd go in RI, but maybe someone will come along. They like rivers and they like lakes and ponds, and they're not very picky about the water quality. Does that help? Welcome to the stage Rich.


I was told that they were boneyards, would kill them and let geese eat them. A man asked if he could have them, told me that if you deep fry them the little bones get cooked. I tried some, tasted better then trout. You can also fillet them.

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May 27, 2020 14:30:52   #
MAS fish Loc: Peoria,IL
 
This golden trout... was speared by my kids while scuba diving our lake last Sunday morning. Nasty old carp put out millions of eggs each, every year. They will destroy good fish habitat. This one was a 10 pounder and yes my son said if you shoot it, you eat it and yes Sunday evenings fish fry included fried carp.



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May 27, 2020 14:39:38   #
EasternOZ Loc: Kansas City Metro
 
MAS fish wrote:
This golden trout... was speared by my kids while scuba diving our lake last Sunday morning. Nasty old carp put out millions of eggs each, every year. They will destroy good fish habitat. This one was a 10 pounder and yes my son said if you shoot it, you eat it and yes Sunday evenings fish fry included fried carp.



Cut out the dark meat and deep fried depending on the water it came out of they aren't horrible.

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May 27, 2020 15:26:42   #
FixorFish Loc: SW Oregon
 
Golden "TROUT".... LOL ! *
Gotta love the colloquial terms from throughout the land, huh !

*My buddy would like that big-a$$ GOLDFISH in his Koi pond !.......and one of those "mirror carp",as well !

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May 27, 2020 16:28:55   #
USAF Major Loc: Sea Bright, NJ
 
Carp are not native to the Americas. They were brought here from Europe in the 1880s ergo an invasive species.

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May 27, 2020 16:31:04   #
Big dog Loc: Bayshore, Long Island, New York
 
USAF Major wrote:
Carp are not native to the Americas. They were brought here from Europe in the 1880s ergo an invasive species.


Europeans, naught but trouble.

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May 27, 2020 16:50:54   #
volfman Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
 
MAS fish wrote:
This golden trout... was speared by my kids while scuba diving our lake last Sunday morning. Nasty old carp put out millions of eggs each, every year. They will destroy good fish habitat. This one was a 10 pounder and yes my son said if you shoot it, you eat it and yes Sunday evenings fish fry included fried carp.


They are not totally useless. You can use the scales off the larger carp for guitar picks. No, I do not play the guitar. I am so non-musical I can barely play a radio. But I have given the scales from carp and bull redfish to people that can play a guitar.

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May 27, 2020 17:06:57   #
lsittig8 Loc: noth west pa
 
I like to put them in salt water over night. Then put them in the smoker. When done take skin off and take mud vane out. People tell me it taste like chicken.

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May 27, 2020 18:15:43   #
volfman Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
 
lsittig8 wrote:
I like to put them in salt water over night. Then put them in the smoker. When done take skin off and take mud vane out. People tell me it taste like chicken.


When I want to eat something that tastes like chicken, I usually just eat chicken. If I want a souped up chicken, I eat rock Cornish game hens. Um, um good.

I'd be lying if I said that I have never tried to clean and eat a carp. I'd also be lying if I said that I have tried to smoke a carp. I think they would be hard to keep lit. Never mind, I have no idea what a smoked carp would taste like, but I wish more people would eat them so there wouldn't be so many of them in our waterways and lakes.

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May 27, 2020 20:02:51   #
Dphndrsn Loc: Indiana
 
Bass are stocked nation wide, but didn't exist nationwide for centuries.


. Many here have stated that mudfish should be called, but they are not invasive.

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May 27, 2020 20:03:20   #
Dphndrsn Loc: Indiana
 
Culled.

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May 27, 2020 20:20:57   #
volfman Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
 
Dphndrsn wrote:
Culled.


Shrimp were made for cullin'. Women were made for lovin'. I think that's how it goes!!!

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May 27, 2020 22:59:33   #
FixorFish Loc: SW Oregon
 
volfman... about 45+ yrs ago, fishing for catfish, caught a carp, maybe 15lbs+, took it home for the garden....ended up drying and pressing in phone book (remember those ?? Lol !) all the salvageable scales for ....guitar picks ! Like minds, huh ? Why waste 'em ? My buddies were semi-grateful (not too long-lived.."not exactly a Fender medium, are they ?", one said)
My sister was not amused when I offered some to her, after listening to her bitch about how much her new acrylic nails cost.... even offered my Dremel and some super glue ! ......women..picky, picky, picky. LOL !

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May 27, 2020 23:09:36   #
Big dog Loc: Bayshore, Long Island, New York
 
FixorFish wrote:
volfman... about 45+ yrs ago, fishing for catfish, caught a carp, maybe 15lbs+, took it home for the garden....ended up drying and pressing in phone book (remember those ?? Lol !) all the salvageable scales for ....guitar picks ! Like minds, huh ? Why waste 'em ? My buddies were semi-grateful (not too long-lived.."not exactly a Fender medium, are they ?", one said)
My sister was not amused when I offered some to her, after listening to her bitch about how much her new acrylic nails cost.... even offered my Dremel and some super glue ! ......women..picky, picky, picky. LOL !
volfman... about 45+ yrs ago, fishing for catfish,... (show quote)


The idea of guitar picks is great, but has anyone else skinned and cured (tanned) a big fish. I did and sewed a really cool cover for the holster of my pellet pistol, some 50 years ago. Large mouth bass, about 7 lbs. looked Great!!

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