I guess that's true. Then what's the point of using no roll sinkers?

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I just received 1oz and 1.5oz no-roll sinkers. Still waiting for larger ones to arrive. And they are flatter than egg sinkers, as expected. But still, the edges don't seem as flat as I expected.

Are such sinkers really expected to stand up to current/tide? I'm sure they won't roll as easily. But the drag would still push them.

I won't be able to go fishing until after Christmas, so can't test them now.

I wasn't thinking aerodynamics and I wasn't thinking retrieve. I was thinking hydrodynamics while suspended/sinking in current. Chances are, the end that's facing towards the rod will be the end facing the current head on. After all, when you cast (or just lower the bait) it gets dragged away from you by the current. So it's always "looking" towards the rod. So it makes sense to orient the sinker thin/narrow side towards the rod. It would be nose into the oncoming current. It would minimize drag. At least, that's my thinking.

Nice! Thanks. Didn't know those exist. I've give this design a try.

Which side should it be put on? Narrow towards the rod, right?

During tide in an inlet, in narrow spaces, the current is so strong that even really heavy sinkers end up unable to stay in place.

I tried a pyramid sinker, hoping it would bury itself in the sand, but it acts like a sort of parachute, with insane drag.

I've seen sputnik sinkers at stores. But not sure if they actually work or would just end up getting hooked on something. Not to mention it's a huge contraption.

I normally use 1oz sinkers to fish with. But in strong current even 5oz of combined multiple sinkers isn't enough.

I'm not talking about long term storage. The question is about an ice box or a cooler filled with ice while on a boat. And how to maintain the catch until you get home for the day.

Yes, but the lower the temperature the slower the process. That's why refrigeration works.

So if the water is near freezing point (in an ice slurry), why would bacteria in it speed up the process compared to bits of water still left on the fish when it's placed in the cooler?

You see, that's the part that doesn't make sense to me. Assuming we don't want to freeze the fish but to cool it down to just above the freezing point, it makes more sense to suspend it in ice slurry.

Ice is colder than ice slurry, but ice doesn't surround the fish completely. Ice slurry does. And heat transfer through water is a lot faster than through air gaps that form between ice and fish.

So to me it seems like ice slurry would cool the fish faster than just ice.



Yes. Same thing. I don't need to freeze the fish. I want to cool it down. So I don't need it below 32 deg. But I do need the fish to get to that 32 deg as quickly as possible. And heat transfer through water is really fast.




Yeah, this is what I read too. Cloudy eyes and worse flavor. But why does that happen? Fish is naturally in the water. So why does it "go bad" (or rather slightly worse) if still kept in water but that's close to freezing temp?

I read that. But how does it happen? If the fish is ungutted and pulled from the water and placed in ice slurry with melted water in it, how does it mess up the flesh texture and flavor?

Cut it up for bait.

Why? That's my question.

I keep seeing conflicting opinions when it comes to managing an ice box or cooler to store the catch.
Some people say it's best to drain the water to only have ice, because ice water spoils the taste of the fish.
Others say to keep the water in, or even add some salt water, to make an ice slurry, so that fish cools down quicker.

What do you guys think is the best approach?

Snapper or Blue Runner. The former for food the latter for bait.

About 10 days ago. On a fluorocarbon leader. On a tiny hook. That a had a tiny shrimp on it.

You can't see it too well in the pics. But the hook just happened to set exactly on the lip. So she couldn't chew through the leader. The hook was really undersized for this fish. You can somewhat see the hook in the pics below.

The hook broke off shortly after we got the fish on board.

And the rod was Ugly Stik GX2, not rated for this kind of fish either. But it held up just fine.

I switched from 25lb fluoro leader to 50lb fluoro leader. Then, I switched to 40lb metal wire leader. (And it's black nylon coated. Not even green.) They don't care. They just gobble up the bait. I wish I had switched sooner, because some of them have really sharp teeth.

I sucks when fish isn't striking. But it's so much worse when you hook a nice fish and it gets away.

I wouldn't advise switching to wire leader unless you have to, but you really shouldn't worry about fish seeing the leader. There is so much stuff that floats down there in the water, I doubt the fish would recognize leader for what it is.


What kind of rig do you use? Like sliding sinker or something like that? Can you make sure to keep the bait around 1-2 feet off the bottom? Not more than that. And see if you get any bites that are not catfish.