Salamander and swim baits seem to stop working. Any tips
I believe Andy would recommend frogs!
Andy B
Loc: East Springfield PA
OJdidit wrote:
I believe Andy would recommend frogs!
OJ, Right you are the Bass are in a fall eat all you can mode now and big bass will hammer a frog. Been getting bit everytime out. Land one on some pads or slop give it a moment then a few twitches and expect a blow up then chug it and pause. Or....... work it thru sparse pads and over grass fairly fast chugging with pauses. ...... Lastly work the shallow ends by any cattails, reeds, or anything sticking out of the water. They are there just gotta believe!!! Good luck π€πΈπΈπΈπΈπΈπΈπΊπ²πΊπ²
Been following your success with frogs for some time, and appreciate the tips. As you pointed out after seeing one of my photos, we have lots of lily pads on our lake, but i've never had much success with frogs - of any size, style, or color. My guess is I've just got to put away my other baits and put in the time to figure out how and when the bass in my lake like their frogs served up. Any suggestions on how to start? Big frogs or little frogs? Frogs that look like frogs, or solid black/solid white? Standard walking frogs, popping frogs, or "flappin" frogs with kicking legs (solid or hollow body)? Best time of day (you seem to catch them all day)? Best weather (sunny/cloudy, warm/cold, windy/calm)? You don't have to give away all your secrets, but a couple will help.
If it wasn't clear, my post was a response to Andy's and the questions were for him.
Andy B
Loc: East Springfield PA
KayakDon wrote:
Been following your success with frogs for some time, and appreciate the tips. As you pointed out after seeing one of my photos, we have lots of lily pads on our lake, but i've never had much success with frogs - of any size, style, or color. My guess is I've just got to put away my other baits and put in the time to figure out how and when the bass in my lake like their frogs served up. Any suggestions on how to start? Big frogs or little frogs? Frogs that look like frogs, or solid black/solid white? Standard walking frogs, popping frogs, or "flappin" frogs with kicking legs (solid or hollow body)? Best time of day (you seem to catch them all day)? Best weather (sunny/cloudy, warm/cold, windy/calm)? You don't have to give away all your secrets, but a couple will help.
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First you may want to get a couple cigars readyπ€ͺπ€ͺπ€ͺ. I think a guy could start off with a smaller black or mostly dark ( a black sharpie will fix any frog) pointed nose hollow body frog . I would suggest bending the hooks out a wee bit so they appear to at least look parallel to the body. Booyah jr. Has a good pointed nose frog and it's a good size. I would then suggest throwing it on a for with braid no leader tie straight to the frog you can probably get by with 20# braid and maybe 15# if you don't have a reel already spooled up with anything . I've got a bunch on 20# this year . If you have 30-40# braid all the better but this late in the season I wouldn't go get any unless I was going to really work frogs. Where to cast ? Look for holes in the pads they will use this as an ambush point . Cast so it lands somewhere near the hole and wait a few seconds then the first few twitches be prepared for a strike this is really a good time. Then as you work it across the opening pay attention to what's going on around the edges of the pads they may come shooting out like a rocket. If they happen to do this you will want to give them time to actually take it ( blow up) then set it hard like your trying to flip them back toward you and keep reeling don't give any slack they will get off . More layer I gotta do a group right now πΈπΈπΈπΈπΈπΊπ²πΊπ²
Andy B wrote:
First you may want to get a couple cigars readyπ€ͺπ€ͺπ€ͺ. I think a guy could start off with a smaller black or mostly dark ( a black sharpie will fix any frog) pointed nose hollow body frog . I would suggest bending the hooks out a wee bit so they appear to at least look parallel to the body. Booyah jr. Has a good pointed nose frog and it's a good size. I would then suggest throwing it on a for with braid no leader tie straight to the frog you can probably get by with 20# braid and maybe 15# if you don't have a reel already spooled up with anything . I've got a bunch on 20# this year . If you have 30-40# braid all the better but this late in the season I wouldn't go get any unless I was going to really work frogs. Where to cast ? Look for holes in the pads they will use this as an ambush point . Cast so it lands somewhere near the hole and wait a few seconds then the first few twitches be prepared for a strike this is really a good time. Then as you work it across the opening pay attention to what's going on around the edges of the pads they may come shooting out like a rocket. If they happen to do this you will want to give them time to actually take it ( blow up) then set it hard like your trying to flip them back toward you and keep reeling don't give any slack they will get off . More layer I gotta do a group right now πΈπΈπΈπΈπΈπΊπ²πΊπ²
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Some good info Andy. Been watching your posts and tried frog a couple times this year w little success. Already have the cigars so I will work on rest. I love fishing a spook but no go in the pads and high weeds.ππ»π£
Andy B
Loc: East Springfield PA
KayakDon wrote:
Been following your success with frogs for some time, and appreciate the tips. As you pointed out after seeing one of my photos, we have lots of lily pads on our lake, but i've never had much success with frogs - of any size, style, or color. My guess is I've just got to put away my other baits and put in the time to figure out how and when the bass in my lake like their frogs served up. Any suggestions on how to start? Big frogs or little frogs? Frogs that look like frogs, or solid black/solid white? Standard walking frogs, popping frogs, or "flappin" frogs with kicking legs (solid or hollow body)? Best time of day (you seem to catch them all day)? Best weather (sunny/cloudy, warm/cold, windy/calm)? You don't have to give away all your secrets, but a couple will help.
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Back again with some more stuff!! ,πΈ As far as time of day I would start out by concentrating on the last couple hrs. before dark until a little past dark and your comfort level for being on the water after dark. I don't fish with a light on ( too many bugs) I don't necessarily thinks it bothers the fish but I like to watch the water and listen for that blow up then reel and feel if there is something there. Then "Rip his Lips Off" I say this because a half- hearted set will most likely lead to a lost fish. I would think that this time of year you would be able to see some blow ups in the pads and cast to those areas for a hit. Try to anticipate a hit at anytime!! From the moment it hits the water ( instant) to right before you lift the frog out of the water. I have caught plenty really close to my yac and alot of times I have taken my eye off the frog as I'm looking at the next place I'm wanting to cast and one hits and it's game on right now with a 3 or 4# bass with 4 or 5 feet of line out, it gets real interesting at that moment. So my advice is to Never , Never, and once again Never take your eyes off the frog thank the Lord for 40# braid or it would be a lost frog.
Work the shore lines anywhere you see a little clearing of open water perhaps a Beaver run or any little indent that breaks up the shoreline. Same with pad edges look for indents or fingers that stick out on the pad line. Also pay really close attention to small patches of isolated pads these are really fish magnets. Try to cast so you hit a less dense area of them somewhere near the center and give it a moment. The fish knows where it is but you need this moment to prepare yourself to wait when she strikes right up thru the mess of pads. Give it time then "Rip his/ her Lips Off" . Another thing to consider is sparse single pads with 2-5 feet between them but many in an area. Mentally prepare yourself for a hit just before the frog reaches a single pad or two and as soon as it comes back on the other side. They can't see thru the pad on their side and are watching it go over. If the try to hit it while still on the pad , keep reeling very slowly chances are good they will continue to eat it don't stop it for at least a few feet. Lastly slow down ,set up on a spot fish it completely turn the motor off . Then move up to the area you just made your longest cast to and repeat. Listen to the pads if you hear a snapping sound that's Gills feeding and if they're there then Bass are somewhere close also. Watch to see if pads stems move without wind this could just be a big carp or your new Personal Best. Send us some pics of your frog catches . You just gotta believe.πΈπΈπΈπΈπΈπΊπ²πΊπ²
Andy B
Loc: East Springfield PA
JDFishes wrote:
Some good info Andy. Been watching your posts and tried frog a couple times this year w little success. Already have the cigars so I will work on rest. I love fishing a spook but no go in the pads and high weeds.ππ»π£
I agree Spooks are fun but when you get those blow ups in the jungle it will give you a new way of looking at top water and it opens up a whole new area of the best bass holding water on any lake.. So light up a cigar and cast a frog into the pads/ weeds and try to walk it like you do a Spook.,( walk - the - dog) personally I don't even try that part of it ,the places I fish you're lucky to even see the frog most of the time and drag/ chug and ripping it loose from pads is more on the order for the day. But under all that is where they live.
Jbone870 wrote:
Salamander and swim baits seem to stop working. Any tips
297 green pumpkin senko whacky rig
Thanks, Andy! Heading back to the lake Saturday for a couple of days, and will give it my best shot. I'll let you know how it goes.
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