impact of line stretch on catching fish (Page 2): Bingo Saw. FLex in the rod n drag set proper to me is the key. I use braid on topwater spinnerbaits about any moving bait. I don't set...

Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa

saw1 wrote:

I should also say that we troll with a medium heavy trollin rod but with the drag loose enough for a fish to take line out when they hit.
That might be the biggest key. A light drag.
If it's too tight and you get a big enough fish, something is gonna break.
Either the fish pulls off, the line breaks or the rod breaks. 🙁👎

Bingo Saw. FLex in the rod n drag set proper to me is the key.

I use braid on topwater spinnerbaits about any moving bait.

I don't set the hook near as hard as other techniques. Quality hooks will penatrate easily on most hits.

I fished with a big guy only use mono.
Set the hook like he was trying to pull a vw outta a mud hole.
Then he'd cuss. Keep his drag locked tight.
I set mine so it will slip a hair on a hard set.
Works for me 👍🎣

Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa

runandgun wrote:

Does anyone feel like they might miss some fish using braid because braid does not stretch? I am using St Croix medium lite fast action rod. Seems like I did better using 12# Mason mono. In particular referring to top water and crank baits. Sometimes with both of those baits I land a fish and it is barely hooked. Just wondering if when I set the hook, I'm jerking the hooks away from the fish.

Runangun I have a St Croix triumph 7'6" med lite. 4lb line.
Used Ivey's tight lining method.
Doesn't really allow for hard sets.

Caught perch crappie n a catfish with it. Maybe the 12lb is too heavy 🤔

JDFishes Loc: Atlantic County

I fish braid exclusively the advantages are low diameter to strength, sensitivity, durability, zero memory and No stretch!
Why would you want to add a variable you can’t control? Stretch of mono varies depending on length of line in the water. Braid is essentially instantaneous contact regardless off distance, assuming there is no bow in line which I always try to minimize before retrieving any lure. I will only use a leader on high pressure lakes where fish are spooky. Mostly straight 15lb braid. I use 7’ medium heavy fast tip for most applications. Easily hook on top water 30-40 yards out and don’t have to slam fish. Do I miss some fish? Sure but many times bass will hit lure and not inhale it first time. I’ve seen bass jump over my lure because they missed it. On a side note used to fish 6’ and 6’6”” and will never go back. 7’ pole has advantage for further casting and more leverage pulling fish from cover, also I can impart action on lures w less effort. Most of us consider all these things, just some of us look at it differently. Respect!

JDFishes Loc: Atlantic County

Also jerking the lure away from the fish once it has taken bait is the whole idea. That’s the hook set!

Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa

JDFishes wrote:

I fish braid exclusively the advantages are low di... (show quote)

JD like you I used shorter rods.
First baitcaster was 6'6".
Then I got a 7' . What a difference it made.
Longer cast less effort.
Now my line up is 6' 8" up to one 7'9" heavy with 50lb braid.
Personal preference 👍

bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington

Keep in mind, that the hook can only pernitrate 1/2 to about 1 inch deep because of the curve in the hook. A sharp hookset with a very sharp hook will hook more fish than trying to send the fish into the stratosphere with a sweeping hook set. The sharp set also reduces slack at the end of the set and often allows for a second strike if the fish is missed. Note: Far more experienced bass fishermen missed far more strikes on my charter boat than beginners. This is mostly due to an early set and slack after the set. Just food for thought. Nothing is absolute. Personally, I try not to set the hook on bass and most other fish until I can feel them. If their is tension, either the hook point is against something or the fishes mouth is closed. Note that I said "try". It is tough to not set the hook at the first indication of a strike.

JDFishes Loc: Atlantic County

I had one way of doing things for years and as my oldest son becomes a better fisherman then me, it’s opened me up to new ways of thinking!I used to use 6-10 pound braid exclusively and would of laughed at anyone using 50 pound braid for bass, until I saw videos of Roland Martin who rarely uses anything less then 50 pound braid. Fishing is like anything else, we should always be improving and finding better ways to catch. IMHO

Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa

bapabear wrote:

Keep in mind, that the hook can only pernitrate 1/... (show quote)

Sound advice to me bapa.
I use quality hooks. If it catches skin on my finger without hesitation I'm good.
Very seldom use heavy wire hooks.

I bought trokar hooks yrs ago.
Fishing a grass bed with a tube.
Bass hooked itself good. I never felt it till he took all the slack.

Fishing for fish with rock hard jaws n heavy hooks require that extra effort.

I have a gentle touch 🤣🤣
We all have our own opinions n ways to do what we enjoy so much.

Is my way the right way 🤔 it is for me👍.
Not too hard headed to try something else either. If I find it better then I'll change

LKPKGA

runandgun wrote:

Does anyone feel like they might miss some fish using braid because braid does not stretch? I am using St Croix medium lite fast action rod. Seems like I did better using 12# Mason mono. In particular referring to top water and crank baits. Sometimes with both of those baits I land a fish and it is barely hooked. Just wondering if when I set the hook, I'm jerking the hooks away from the fish.

You can use a mono or fluorocarbon leader that will give you enough stretch to set the hook. Good luck

denbear71 Loc: Long Island,ny

we use braided line in the surf on Long Island.Never tie directs you change lures as needed.Never had any problems doing it this way. Maybe using mono is better in fresh water, but for the surf, I've been using braided for years, caught fish up to 30lb class, never a problem.Just need to keep a handle on the drag.

Jeremy Loc: America

JDFishes wrote:

I had one way of doing things for years and as my oldest son becomes a better fisherman then me, it’s opened me up to new ways of thinking!I used to use 6-10 pound braid exclusively and would of laughed at anyone using 50 pound braid for bass, until I saw videos of Roland Martin who rarely uses anything less then 50 pound braid. Fishing is like anything else, we should always be improving and finding better ways to catch. IMHO

YUP

It’s like learning and having an open mind. You will benefit.

Jeremy Loc: America

LKPKGA wrote:

You can use a mono or fluorocarbon leader that will give you enough stretch to set the hook. Good luck

How does something that stretches SET the hook? It stretches instead of pulling the hook toward the rod tip.

Jeremy Loc: America

bapabear wrote:

Keep in mind, that the hook can only pernitrate 1/... (show quote)

Sharp hook is always important. I agree hard not to try to set hook as soon as you feel something on there.

In other words a jerk on one end of the line waiting for a jerk on the other end.

runandgun Loc: East Texas

First, I want to thank all y'all for commenting on my thread. I went back and read it again and wondering about my sentence "sometimes I land a fish and it is barely hooked". Maybe as one suggested I'm getting too much stretch. Makes sense since I'm going to be 80 and maybe not using as much force as before. And the rod is medium light, so again not as much force digging the hook in.

Making sure the hooks are sharp. That might be an issue as like every body, I have a favorite Pop-R and I need to check the sharpness as I have caught lots of fish on it.

I'm going to spool with some 30# braid and check things out when it gets less hot. Here is East Texas right now we under heat alerts every day. Just "do what I gotta do" each day to take care of the animals.

I think my drag is ok; it is set according to the weight of the line.

Again, thanks for all the input.

JDFishes Loc: Atlantic County

Thing about braid the tension strength is greater then it’s impact strength. You could easily land an 8 pound bass on 15 pound braid but if the same fish strikes hard and you slam the hookset line can break. Drag should be set to impact strength just in case you get too exuberant with hook set! The you can adjust as needed while landing fish.Just sayin👍🏻