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Jun 29, 2023 13:22:42   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
DozerDave wrote:
Here is a chart showing how far back, when long lining, that you need to be with a banana weight, to get you down to a certain depth, with a particular weight. At 1.5 mph. And why aren’t you trolling while you searching for your Kokanee. Just curious. You may want to google “Kokanee University” by fishing with Gary. Very informative… 🐟on


that's a good chart I have never seen it before I have always tried to estimate the line angle and use a rise and run type calculation

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Jun 29, 2023 15:19:53   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
I have only trolled for them. If you don't troll for them, you give up the search for them. Just remember if you do troll for them, that the smaller diameter the line is then the less belly/drag which will get you deeper with the same lead, so many use super braid. I have used, years ago, white super braid that I could mark with a permanent marker. A Wedding ring spinner with the hook containing a little bit of worm and tipped with a kernel of white corn. For some reason, it required BOTH those baits together on the hook. For the depth I used a rudder, to stop line twist, and a weight hanging on a short drop leader from the rudder.

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Jun 29, 2023 17:18:30   #
Buttercup69 Loc: WA
 
This is my first time writing. I've been reading this for years. I left for a while when it got political and not fishing. I like the depth chart. It's pretty accurate. I just back from Dworshak Reservoir in Idaho. The fish were 20 to 30ft. We were fishing out 40feet with a 3 oz weight with a jackaloid, kokanne killer and a piece of corn, trolling 1.5. Three of us got 75. (25 fish limit.) We double rubber snubber. One after the weight and one before the kokanne killer. I use line counter reels.

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Jun 29, 2023 18:06:15   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Buttercup69 wrote:
This is my first time writing. I've been reading this for years. I left for a while when it got political and not fishing. I like the depth chart. It's pretty accurate. I just back from Dworshak Reservoir in Idaho. The fish were 20 to 30ft. We were fishing out 40feet with a 3 oz weight with a jackaloid, kokanne killer and a piece of corn, trolling 1.5. Three of us got 75. (25 fish limit.) We double rubber snubber. One after the weight and one before the kokanne killer. I use line counter reels.


Welcome back.
I agree with the trollin chart.
As far as political posts on here, just stay outta the attic and it usually takes care of those kinda posts.
That's what I do.🤠👍

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Jul 1, 2023 01:31:20   #
Fish Fry Loc: Washington State
 
Here is a couple of ways: snap weights or instant down rigger by Reddy Rig or some trolling weights in a banana shape





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Jul 2, 2023 11:15:28   #
Dakoda Loc: Cle Elum, WA
 
I use white (shoepeg) corn with a redi-rig and the colored line mentioned earlier with the same dodger set up. I did recently put a small downrigger on my little aluminum boat.

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Jul 2, 2023 13:56:41   #
Kdra Loc: Washington coast
 
Thanks for the tips with redo-rig no idea
I have a small manual downrigger but this looks great

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Jul 2, 2023 19:33:32   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
TimothyMichaels wrote:
Angle lake is not to far. It does have a population of Kokanee. I have a small boat and a Helix 5 fish finder but no down riggers. I've been reading up on these fish to see what techniques are used. I would rather figure out a way to use existing gear then purchase new stuff with the aim of a new quarry. I would appreciate any suggestions as to locals how to bag Kokanee without a down rigger. I know they school and bite out of territorial aggressiveness rather then to eat. So my proposal is to search using the Helix rather than troll. And when I find a school to use very bright jig like lures to piss them off into biting. I know I' can tie up a jig that would be too much and scare them. And also that they go after bright pink (?)
I saw these fish before on my Helix and it shows the precise depth. They were at about 27 to 30 feet at that time. I could not get accurate enough with what I had to put a lure before there nose. A bait casting rod and reel with a line counter might give a real number as to how deep? If I owned one I'd use it. I use a countdown method with a spinning reel but it seems non precise. Or, with a small investment I see there are line counters. Have you used one with a spinning reel? I know you could not cast the line so is is limiting. I have looked for some new line where it changes colors every foot but I don't think it is made? I've even tried marking my line with paint markers but it got a bit messy and I through the line in the trash. Any suggestions for more precise depth control without down rigger trolling or other tips on Kokanee?
Angle lake is not to far. It does have a populati... (show quote)

This is my dodger and my home made wedding ring. This is the only set up that I use, nothing else and I limit out more so than not. Never skunked…
🐟on





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Jul 2, 2023 21:24:05   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
DozerDave wrote:
This is my dodger and my home made wedding ring. This is the only set up that I use, nothing else and I limit out more so than not. Never skunked…
🐟on


Good looking rig Dozer.

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Jul 2, 2023 21:53:23   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
Kerry Hansen wrote:
Good looking rig Dozer.


Yeah, Kerry. I came up with this combination a few years back and it really works, at least for me. Like I said, I limit out just about every time I go out. At Merwin I’ll run the down riggers at 50’ with a 15’ set back @ 1-1.2mph. I drag the same on both poles, and doubles are very common. I’ve caught as many as 300 Kokanee between June and September in the past. I won’t get to chase them this year. Down here in California caring for Mom & Dad. But we’ll be back after them next year… 🐟on

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Jul 2, 2023 22:33:35   #
Kdra Loc: Washington coast
 
Dave for Merwin what’s a good weight to start with I always thought Merwin was a spring fall fishery I’d like to give it a try here in July August great info thanks

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Jul 2, 2023 22:46:36   #
TimothyMichaels Loc: Seattle WA
 
Dozer, With pictures; very slick! So are you saying that there are no accoutrements to this rig; just rod and reel? No Down rigger? You must go slow for it to get down there? I also am one of those guys who's compulsion is to make it all myself if possible. Only I do it a bit different as my lures usually drive the fish away! Well, a bite once and a while is quite wonderful.

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Jul 2, 2023 23:22:43   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
DozerDave wrote:
Yeah, Kerry. I came up with this combination a few years back and it really works, at least for me. Like I said, I limit out just about every time I go out. At Merwin I’ll run the down riggers at 50’ with a 15’ set back @ 1-1.2mph. I drag the same on both poles, and doubles are very common. I’ve caught as many as 300 Kokanee between June and September in the past. I won’t get to chase them this year. Down here in California caring for Mom & Dad. But we’ll be back after them next year… 🐟on
Yeah, Kerry. I came up with this combination a few... (show quote)


How are they doing?

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Jul 2, 2023 23:24:40   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
TimothyMichaels wrote:
Dozer, With pictures; very slick! So are you saying that there are no accoutrements to this rig; just rod and reel? No Down rigger? You must go slow for it to get down there? I also am one of those guys who's compulsion is to make it all myself if possible. Only I do it a bit different as my lures usually drive the fish away! Well, a bite once and a while is quite wonderful.


No, he said he is using a down rigger.

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Jul 2, 2023 23:44:20   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
Kdra wrote:
Dave for Merwin what’s a good weight to start with I always thought Merwin was a spring fall fishery I’d like to give it a try here in July August great info thanks


I have down riggers. But back when I use to long line I’d use a 3oz banana weight. Set back between 100 to 125’ @ about 1.25mph will put you pretty close to 40/60’. I do the most of my fishing at Merwin between July through September in the vicinity of the waterfall… 🐟on

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