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Mar 30, 2023 18:51:17   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
OldBassGuy wrote:
March 29 - 50th National Viet Nam War Veterans Day


Fellow Member,

Fifty years have passed since the final American military forces left Vietnam and our remaining prisoners of war were returned. Even after the passage of five decades, we still owe these veterans a large debt of gratitude.

During the conflict, political controversy and disagreement were sadly misdirected toward those who had admirably served our nation. When these brave warriors returned from Vietnam, they received neither a hero’s welcome nor appreciation for their service that they deserved, but instead got apathy, anger and hate. Disappointingly, many were left to struggle alone with self-doubt, shame and the memories of those left behind.

After their wartime service ended, these unsung heroes went to work, served in government and became involved in their communities. Vietnam War-era veterans went on to lead Fortune 500 companies, direct Oscar-winning films, create a prominent computer-programming language, map the human genome and many other outstanding accomplishments. Today, there are approximately 6 million living veterans from the Vietnam era – more than 30% of America’s veteran population.

March 2​9 – National Vietnam War Veterans Day – is dedicated to these heroes. You can honor them by watching the National Veterans Memorial and Museum’s Welcome Home Ceremony at 1​0 a.m. EDT. The keynote speaker will be Capt. J. Charles “Charlie” Plumb (USN, Ret.), a naval aviator who was shot down and held prisoner in Vietnam for six years. He’s legendary for his story “Who Packs Your Parachute?”

The 50th National Vietnam War Veterans Day is a national opportunity to share our appreciation for the sacrifices made by a generation of veterans. Thank you, Vietnam veterans, for your courage in war and service to our nation, both in and out of uniform.



Wayne Peacock
March 29 - 50th National Viet Nam War Veterans Day... (show quote)


GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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Mar 30, 2023 19:34:56   #
Bobfromfremont Loc: Fremont Ca
 
audigger53 wrote:
Yes to all the other Vets, "Welcome Home!" Or "Welcome back to the World."
It was NOT said to those of us the served during that time. No one asked us what happened over there. It was a Political War as we were NOT allowed to go North of the DMZ, just like the Korean War. A war can not be won without going totally after the enemy. The only exception to that was WWII in the war against Japan. That was done by bombing with the Atomic Bombs to beat them into surrender. For Germany, it was not over until took Germany.
Nam was a totally political war started by JFK, but not until LBJ was it turned into a War. The US was headed into a Recession so LBJ made it into a war so that the young men wold be drafted so free up jobs for the older men and women. So many killed for nothing more than Political Power and Greed. Even now I am more comfortable around other veterans.
Yes to all the other Vets, "Welcome Home!&quo... (show quote)


I have to disagree with you Audigger. The Vietnam war was started (for us) the war started in 1959 under Eisenhower

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Mar 30, 2023 20:36:32   #
Jarheadfishnfool Loc: Woodlake/Tulare ,Ca.
 
Bobfromfremont wrote:
I have to disagree with you Audigger. The Vietnam war was started (for us) the war started in 1959 under Eisenhower


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Mar 30, 2023 20:58:49   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Bobfromfremont wrote:
I have to disagree with you Audigger. The Vietnam war was started (for us) the war started in 1959 under Eisenhower


Don't know what you consider US involvement?
On March 8, 1965 LBJ sent 3,500 US Marines ashore in Da Nang. They were the first US troops sent in. They joined the 25,000 US Military advisors that were already in the country. Which we started sendin into the country on Nov 1st 1955. Not sure what exactly these "ADVISORS" were doin.
Therefore, we were involved in the conflict for almost 20 years. We finally got out at the fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975.
I got out of the service in November of '75. Spent the last 4 years of Viet Nam in the Air Force. Fortunately, I never had to actually serve IN COUNTRY.
I knew lots that did and some that didn't make it back.
At least to my knowledge that's the time line.
However, if you were to ask some of those "advisors " what they actually did, they might have another story to tell.
Like, "SO, we were ADVISORS were we?"

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Mar 31, 2023 08:44:30   #
Scudrnr Loc: Hancock, Wisconsin
 
OldBassGuy wrote:
March 29 - 50th National Viet Nam War Veterans Day


Fellow Member,

Fifty years have passed since the final American military forces left Vietnam and our remaining prisoners of war were returned. Even after the passage of five decades, we still owe these veterans a large debt of gratitude.

During the conflict, political controversy and disagreement were sadly misdirected toward those who had admirably served our nation. When these brave warriors returned from Vietnam, they received neither a hero’s welcome nor appreciation for their service that they deserved, but instead got apathy, anger and hate. Disappointingly, many were left to struggle alone with self-doubt, shame and the memories of those left behind.

After their wartime service ended, these unsung heroes went to work, served in government and became involved in their communities. Vietnam War-era veterans went on to lead Fortune 500 companies, direct Oscar-winning films, create a prominent computer-programming language, map the human genome and many other outstanding accomplishments. Today, there are approximately 6 million living veterans from the Vietnam era – more than 30% of America’s veteran population.

March 2​9 – National Vietnam War Veterans Day – is dedicated to these heroes. You can honor them by watching the National Veterans Memorial and Museum’s Welcome Home Ceremony at 1​0 a.m. EDT. The keynote speaker will be Capt. J. Charles “Charlie” Plumb (USN, Ret.), a naval aviator who was shot down and held prisoner in Vietnam for six years. He’s legendary for his story “Who Packs Your Parachute?”

The 50th National Vietnam War Veterans Day is a national opportunity to share our appreciation for the sacrifices made by a generation of veterans. Thank you, Vietnam veterans, for your courage in war and service to our nation, both in and out of uniform.



Wayne Peacock
March 29 - 50th National Viet Nam War Veterans Day... (show quote)


Excellent quote. From one Vietnam veteran to another, thank you for your service.

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Mar 31, 2023 13:00:03   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
To little and way to late. It don't mean nothing.

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Mar 31, 2023 13:03:45   #
audigger53 Loc: Severn, MD
 
bapabear wrote:
To little and way to late. It don't mean nothing.


I'm sorry that I have to agree with you. It was needed 50 years ago, not now.

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Mar 31, 2023 13:11:20   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
audigger53 wrote:
I'm sorry that I have to agree with you. It was needed 50 years ago, not now.


You did not need to start with "sorry". You have nothing to be sorry for. Some things just don't deserve forgive and forget. Jane fonda deserves a firing squad and draft dodgers should still be facing a stint in Leavenworth. As for the rest that left us hanging and/or condemned us for serving our country, the attic will not hold my contempt, just as our country will never recover.

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Mar 31, 2023 15:09:12   #
Bigmark Loc: Lower Alabama
 
I was willing to go if needed, but missed it by four years. I met one of the more famous POW MIA's that came to our school and spoke not long after he returned home. I was at his family's house later that day and overheard him talking to others about the number of POW's still being held. The rumors are very true. Over 830 POW/MIA we held hostage for billions and it was not paid. Clinton, Ford, and Reagan all knew it. Some were pawned off on the Russians and Chinese later dieing in labor camps and or tortured to death. Some trapped in the jungles of Cambodia. God comforts these souls now and to hell with the VC, NVA, Communist China and Russian Communists.

Bigmark

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Mar 31, 2023 16:30:26   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
bapabear wrote:
You did not need to start with "sorry". You have nothing to be sorry for. Some things just don't deserve forgive and forget. Jane fonda deserves a firing squad and draft dodgers should still be facing a stint in Leavenworth. As for the rest that left us hanging and/or condemned us for serving our country, the attic will not hold my contempt, just as our country will never recover.


I agree with you 100%, I now worry about how we will defend our country with what are schools and higher learning institutions are turning out these days. Our foes are laughing at us. Thus Russian invasion of Ukraine a year after this current administration come in and soon Chinese invasion of Taiwan all the while our military is being defunded. At over 8 decades, I can't fight any more, I worry about my Grand kids and Great Grand kids, boys and girls. I remember the protesters outside the ship yard I worked at and what they called us verbally and with their signs.

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Mar 31, 2023 17:18:14   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Kerry Hansen wrote:
I agree with you 100%, I now worry about how we will defend our country with what are schools and higher learning institutions are turning out these days. Our foes are laughing at us. Thus Russian invasion of Ukraine a year after this current administration come in and soon Chinese invasion of Taiwan all the while our military is being defunded. At over 8 decades, I can't fight any more, I worry about my Grand kids and Great Grand kids, boys and girls. I remember the protesters outside the ship yard I worked at and what they called us verbally and with their signs.
I agree with you 100%, I now worry about how we wi... (show quote)


I understand. I was one of the ones bein jeered at and called all kind of names.
However, for us to heal we have to learn to forgive. MOST of those that were callin us names don't feel the same as they did back then. Forgiveness is the first step in healing.
Forgiveness is not forgetting it's just letting go of the past and moving forward from this point on.
People deserve a second chance and I just hope I'm man enough and big enough to do just that. Give those a second chance that truly seem sorry for their behavior back then.
I don't mean to offend anyone and I hope I didn't.
I know not everyone feels the same way as I do but someday I hope you can/will. You deserve the peace it brings. Saw1.

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Mar 31, 2023 17:52:15   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
saw1 wrote:
I understand. I was one of the ones bein jeered at and called all kind of names.
However, for us to heal we have to learn to forgive. MOST of those that were callin us names don't feel the same as they did back then. Forgiveness is the first step in healing.
Forgiveness is not forgetting it's just letting go of the past and moving forward from this point on.
People deserve a second chance and I just hope I'm man enough and big enough to do just that. Give those a second chance that truly seem sorry for their behavior back then.
I don't mean to offend anyone and I hope I didn't.
I know not everyone feels the same way as I do but someday I hope you can/will. You deserve the peace it brings. Saw1.
I understand. I was one of the ones bein jeered at... (show quote)


Fortunately with me serving in the 1950's I wasn't a recipient of that crap as an enlisted man and I hated it when they went after the vets later and we Shipyard workers who as in my case were supporting the fleet to support our country. To this day it still pisses me off the way you and others were treated. My boyhood friend who is pass on from two tours as a jungle tracker with his dog and being exposed to Agent Orange.

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Mar 31, 2023 18:37:14   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Kerry Hansen wrote:
Fortunately with me serving in the 1950's I wasn't a recipient of that crap as an enlisted man and I hated it when they went after the vets later and we Shipyard workers who as in my case were supporting the fleet to support our country. To this day it still pisses me off the way you and others were treated. My boyhood friend who is pass on from two tours as a jungle tracker with his dog and being exposed to Agent Orange.


Thank you so much for your support. I too know of guys that have passed on from agent orange and some others that are still suffering today from it and them not getting the proper care and benefits to cover the treatment.
It is shameful the way they say that they're not covered medically. Are you kidding me ! I just don't understand that at all.

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Mar 31, 2023 18:49:31   #
Kerry Hansen Loc: Bremerton, WA
 
saw1 wrote:
Thank you so much for your support. I too know of guys that have passed on from agent orange and some others that are still suffering today from it and them not getting the proper care and benefits to cover the treatment.
It is shameful the way they say that they're not covered medically. Are you kidding me ! I just don't understand that at all.


They didn't recognize it until Zumwalt's son an officer serving over there come down with Agent Orange's issues and since Zumwalt was the overall commanding officer, they got serious and took a second look (OR ADMITTED IT) at it and admitted it. Heck later after the war, planes that were used to drop that defoliant, were infecting crews manning them in peace time!!!

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Mar 31, 2023 19:11:45   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Kerry Hansen wrote:
They didn't recognize it until Zumwalt's son an officer serving over there come down with Agent Orange's issues and since Zumwalt was the overall commanding officer, they got serious and took a second look (OR ADMITTED IT) at it and admitted it. Heck later after the war, planes that were used to drop that defoliant, were infecting crews manning them in peace time!!!


Yep, a terrible terrible thing.
Can't begin to imagine all the problems it caused all the people left over there that have/had to live with that all these years.

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