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Nov 11, 2022 14:45:32   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
Still above water wrote:
My friend I have fished the lake on a regular basis for over thirty years. It is my favorite trout/ salmon lake. My boat is equipped with a simple Hummingbird locator that I utilize for depth , speed, water temp and marking fish. I have never used a chart map mostly due to my experience on the lake. There are many known structural markers that many us use as a reference point when navigating the lake, ie ranch house on the east side of the main lake, putuh bridge at the northern end of the lake, and the overhead wires denoting the coves to Pleasure Cove and the damn area towards Markey Cove. As far as technical info goes, my most productive lures have been a chrome Speedy shiner along with my old faithful, chrome and blue cast master. I’ve caught more fish on this lure lake then all lures combined! When the lake turns over there have been many times that we have limited out never leaving Pleasure Cove. 2 to 2 and half mph is our trolling speed. One hundred feet back. I’m planning a four day trip up there at the end of this month saying Pleasure Cove. Before you go check with the resort that u will be lunching out of. Many of the ramps are currently out of service due to the low water. Pleasure Cove ramp is only available to 4wd only to launch. Good luck fishing and hope u have a great trip
My friend I have fished the lake on a regular basi... (show quote)


Funny you mention the blue and chrome Kastmaster, in the Pleasure Cove arm my wife caught the only fish of the day twice, a rainbow one day and a Kokanee another just heading out towards the power lines. I have Speedy Shiners and will try the chrome, and a blue and chrome just for grins and giggles. The other lures guides go to are Humdingers and Cripplures in pink, watermelon, black and white, among some others. For a slower bite they add dodgers. Oh, the one guide was using pro-cure threadfin shad scent, he was saying it does make a difference.

We usually let lines out leaving the marina, but I wanted to try over by skiers Canyon, and from Markley cove towards the dam and around in a loop.

You said you were going end of the month, we are going on the Thanksgiving weekend Thursday through Sunday, good luck.

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Nov 11, 2022 15:20:25   #
Still above water Loc: San Francisco ca
 
Yes.. skier’s cove can be very productive. I usually troll the mouth of the cove.. east to west. Rarely do I enter the cove to fish unless I see Bird action.

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Nov 11, 2022 20:10:21   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
Still above water wrote:
Yes.. skier’s cove can be very productive. I usually troll the mouth of the cove.. east to west. Rarely do I enter the cove to fish unless I see Bird action.


I have seen it make a difference which way you go, have you tried casting over bait balls in coves?

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Nov 11, 2022 20:27:25   #
Still above water Loc: San Francisco ca
 
Yes casting into bait balls can be very productive and exciting. I also use Seps pro mini flashers or a small chrome dodger 3ft above my lure. The cripple lure is also a good choice along with the small fire tiger rapala. Like I said my favorite spot for top line trolling WHEN the lake turns over is Pleasure cove from 5mph zone to the wires. I will be up there from Nov. 30th to the 2nd of Dec. I put pro cure trout scent on all my lures!

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Nov 11, 2022 20:44:19   #
Still above water Loc: San Francisco ca
 
I wish you good luck and I will look forward to hearing how did. You will be leaving about the time that I will be arriving so any info about your trip would be very helpful Tight lines! Also fyi the mouth of putah creek from the bridge to the rock wall on the right side of the cove can be very productive!!!

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Nov 11, 2022 20:57:09   #
Jclester12 Loc: Arizona phx
 
woodguru wrote:
We booked a few days at Thanksgiving time at Berryessa...this is a confusing big lake with arms and coves over a mile deep. My wife and I have been turned around and confused about where we were in relation to where we were trying to go...

I got a big full sized mylar map that has all the popular coves and hot spots identified. It helps tremendously to be able to see where we were in the arms we got turned around in when we gave up and headed back to what we knew. We also got GPS tracking on new fishfinders so that we could get back the way we went which is a big plus, but I feel like I now know where it is I am when I do the things we did again. Plus the last time I was out my friend and I went to the dam, and out to the main part of the lake which helped better orient me to the lake.

The main key here is that I've been watching guide videos of the fall fishing, they show what lures they are using, how to rig, how far back, speed, etc., but the key piece was often not knowing the area they were fishing even though they would call it by the geographic reference. Now I can see several great places to troll, how fast, and what to switch over to when the fishing slows down in the mid morning. I'm set up to do everything like several guys have shown, and knowing exactly where to go is a huge confidence builder.

Now if we can get the usual nice but cold Thanksgiving weather without rain we're on!
We booked a few days at Thanksgiving time at Berry... (show quote)


A mile deep??

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Nov 11, 2022 21:21:26   #
Still above water Loc: San Francisco ca
 
I believe that he meant the length of some of the coves not the depth of the water. Berryessa’s max depth is 275 ft at the dam when the lake is full.

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Nov 12, 2022 02:24:43   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
Jclester12 wrote:
A mile deep??


Long, as in from mouth to the back

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Nov 12, 2022 07:49:10   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
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.... I put pro cure trout scent on all my lures!


You may want to try putting the scent on a short piece of salmon floss that's tied to the dodger instead of on the lure. The yarn will soak up more scent and slowly release it for a lot longer than putting it directly on the lure.

PapaD

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Nov 12, 2022 08:31:40   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
woodguru wrote:
Funny you mention the blue and chrome Kastmaster, in the Pleasure Cove arm my wife caught the only fish of the day twice, a rainbow one day and a Kokanee another just heading out towards the power lines. I have Speedy Shiners and will try the chrome, and a blue and chrome just for grins and giggles. The other lures guides go to are Humdingers and Cripplures in pink, watermelon, black and white, among some others...


For even more giggles..

During nautical twilight hours try running an all black dodger and lure (all black and 1 or 2 sizes larger than what you would use otherwise). Also run it a little bit slower. (I added a little extra bend to my black dodger to make it work at the slower speed.)



The reason black works so well is that under very low light conditions, the fish can only silhouettes (shades of grey). Black (followed by dark reds) provides the best contact.

If you want to give it a try a but aren't yet ready to get out the spray paint, wrap your dodger and a Krocodile with black electrical tape.

Giggles away!
PapaD

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Nov 12, 2022 14:24:49   #
OLDNDN Loc: Merced County, Calif.
 
woodguru wrote:
Yes, the notes have info on the popular trolling lanes, I've found the guides putting out some really informative videos tell you where they are fishing, but it hasn't meant anything...now it does. The delta map sounds like an excellent idea for anyone spending time out there. I remember as a kid some scary moments on the delta getting truly lost.


Yes a map of the delta is must have if you start wandering around those back sloughs. Got lost a couple of times and got stuck in a slough, went in at high tide and got stuck when it went out. Had to to wait for it to change to get out. A good map shows the depth of most areas.

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Nov 12, 2022 14:57:43   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
OLDNDN wrote:
Yes a map of the delta is must have if you start wandering around those back sloughs. Got lost a couple of times and got stuck in a slough, went in at high tide and got stuck when it went out. Had to to wait for it to change to get out. A good map shows the depth of most areas.


Back in the 80's my brother had a little 14ft boat, he tried to talk us into going out on the delta to go to a restaurant, we said we'd pass on account of the idea of being lost in the dark was not okay.

The delta is notorious for pea fog, well, he was socked in by fog so thick he couldn't see anything. He had no clue where the bank was most of the time let alone where he was. They freaked out when they heard a ship's fog horn sounding like it was right on top of them.

I have no clue how they made it back to the launch ramp they put in at, but it cemented the wisdom of me taking a pass on that little adventure.

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Nov 13, 2022 14:11:33   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
Papa D wrote:
For even more giggles..

During nautical twilight hours try running an all black dodger and lure (all black and 1 or 2 sizes larger than what you would use otherwise). Also run it a little bit slower. (I added a little extra bend to my black dodger to make it work at the slower speed.)



The reason black works so well is that under very low light conditions, the fish can only silhouettes (shades of grey). Black (followed by dark reds) provides the best contact.

If you want to give it a try a but aren't yet ready to get out the spray paint, wrap your dodger and a Krocodile with black electrical tape.

Giggles away!
PapaD
For even more giggles.. br br During nautical tw... (show quote)


The darker colors are a go to on overcast cloudy days too. I just bought some z-ray lures, guys that say they have used them for 40 years as their go lure to say the black/red dots, black/white dots, red/white dots are the bomb

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Nov 13, 2022 14:41:35   #
Still above water Loc: San Francisco ca
 
Sounds good. My opinion, like I said before my greatest success over the years has been a silver and blue Kastmaster.regardless of the weather conditions. Overcasted, pouring rain and sunshine. Remember that I am fishing once the lake turns over. The bait is now in the top 10ft and the trout are chasing bait and or searching for food it’s my opinion 4that your lure must Imitate the food source, small bright shad! Nothing in my opinion beats the silver Kastmaster in replicating the shad bait in the lake once it has turned over.

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Nov 13, 2022 14:48:47   #
Still above water Loc: San Francisco ca
 
Still above water wrote:
Sounds good. My opinion, like I said before my greatest success over the years at Lake Berryessa has been a silver and blue Kastmaster.regardless of the weather conditions. Overcasted, pouring rain and sunshine. Remember that I am fishing once the lake turns over. The bait is now in the top 10ft and the trout are chasing bait and or searching for food it’s my opinion 4that your lure must Imitate the food source, small bright shad! Nothing in my opinion beats the silver Kastmaster in replicating the shad bait in the lake once it has turned over.
Sounds good. My opinion, like I said before my gre... (show quote)

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