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PapaD, why are you beating up the fire extinguisher? Add this to your boat maintenance check list
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Nov 3, 2022 13:47:59   #
craig42 Loc: Petaluma, ca
 
Papa D wrote:
This morning my 3 year old grandson saw me smacking all the household fire extinguishers against my anvil and wanted to know why.

My first reply was that I was going fishing this coming weekend and wanted to get a headstart on my daylight savings time change routine.

From the look on his face (like the one I give him when he forgets to say please or thank you), I could tell didn't like my answer.

Here's a summary of my second attempt to answer his question.

The following is based on first hand experience and recommendations from a retired fireman.

Background: After hanging for a year, the powder in an ABC fire extinguisher will settle and set in the bottom. The longer it hangs, the harder it sets up. (If you want to see for yourself, grab yours and give it a shake--if you can't feel and hear the powder moving, it's packed.)

My experience: I have a sister in law that lives with me and she's a firebug (too much oil in the deep fryer, Christmas presents on top of a 500 watt pole lamp, portable bathroom heater to close her bedding, etc). A couple of the times when I grabbed the closest extinguisher, all I got out of it was air.

Fireman's recommendation: When you change your clocks:

(1) put new batteries in your smoke detectors (the ones that I take out go into the remote control bag).

(2) Collect all your extinguishers and one-by-one beat them up. Rap them against something hard but don't hit them so hard that you leave big dents. Then give them a good shaking like you would a can of spray paint. If you can't get it to free up, replace it with a new one.

(3) Hang or lay the extinguishers horizontally. They won't pack up that bad.

(4) If you need to use it rap it against something before squeezing the handle.

My boat owner recommendation:

Add mugging your extinguishers to your biannual maintenance list.

Be safe and GO OUT AND GET SOME
PapaD
This morning my 3 year old grandson saw me smackin... (show quote)


As 30 veteran

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Nov 3, 2022 13:54:48   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Papa D wrote:
This morning my 3 year old grandson saw me smacking all the household fire extinguishers against my anvil and wanted to know why.

My first reply was that I was going fishing this coming weekend and wanted to get a headstart on my daylight savings time change routine.

From the look on his face (like the one I give him when he forgets to say please or thank you), I could tell didn't like my answer.

Here's a summary of my second attempt to answer his question.

The following is based on first hand experience and recommendations from a retired fireman.

Background: After hanging for a year, the powder in an ABC fire extinguisher will settle and set in the bottom. The longer it hangs, the harder it sets up. (If you want to see for yourself, grab yours and give it a shake--if you can't feel and hear the powder moving, it's packed.)

My experience: I have a sister in law that lives with me and she's a firebug (too much oil in the deep fryer, Christmas presents on top of a 500 watt pole lamp, portable bathroom heater to close her bedding, etc). A couple of the times when I grabbed the closest extinguisher, all I got out of it was air.

Fireman's recommendation: When you change your clocks:

(1) put new batteries in your smoke detectors (the ones that I take out go into the remote control bag).

(2) Collect all your extinguishers and one-by-one beat them up. Rap them against something hard but don't hit them so hard that you leave big dents. Then give them a good shaking like you would a can of spray paint. If you can't get it to free up, replace it with a new one.

(3) Hang or lay the extinguishers horizontally. They won't pack up that bad.

(4) If you need to use it rap it against something before squeezing the handle.

My boat owner recommendation:

Add mugging your extinguishers to your biannual maintenance list.

Be safe and GO OUT AND GET SOME
PapaD
This morning my 3 year old grandson saw me smackin... (show quote)


Thanks for the post and the responses guys. All good stuff to know, remember and practice.

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Nov 3, 2022 17:52:40   #
Robert Johnson Loc: Spirit Lake, Idaho
 
Good advice Papa D, after I retired from truck driving I drove school bus for 4 years , we were required to take fire extinguishers in school bus once a month and turn upside down and shake vigorously and log it down for maintenance records. Untill then I had never herd of such a thing.🤔🌝

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Nov 3, 2022 18:03:29   #
FixorFish Loc: SW Oregon
 
Great tip !! Thanks !

Now then....did Ed ever bring back my rubber mallet ?...I do not recall... and which one of my several "junk drawers" did I put the extra 9v batteries in ?... hehehe.

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Nov 3, 2022 18:20:29   #
Jimbos Loc: Taft Ca
 
Please let me clarify:
There are basically two types of extinguishers; stored pressure (have a pressure gauge) and cartridge style. The majority of extinguishers used for personal use (home, auto, boat, etc.) are stored pressure types and do not require shaking, tipping and especially hammering! Just check the pressure gauge annually and make sure it’s in the green zone. The acronym PASS stands for Pull, Aim, Squeeze, and Sweep. They all have pins to prevent accidental discharge so that’s the first action (pull the safety pin).
It is the Cartridge style extinguishers that require tipping and “fluffing” the powder occasionally since the canister isn’t charged till you activate the CO cartridge mounted on the outside of the extinguisher…I guarantee you do not have this style for personal use. These are larger and used commercially and in industrial settings. Never hammer the cylinders, on either type, you will compromise their integrity and could put you or someone else at risk! Thank you…now go catch some fish.

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Nov 3, 2022 18:56:36   #
Foodfisher Loc: SO. Cal coast
 
Now I'm confused. Easily done. Mine have a guage that is in the green. Whackem or don't?

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Nov 3, 2022 19:42:20   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
Fireguy wrote:
Glad you followed that gut feeling. That feeling is an accumulation of our sensory inputs over a lifetime, things our mind stores to be recalled later. In your case, that childhood experience probably really heightened your perception.


It's something I wish I could unsee. After being in a flood n losing alot of stuff n a giant clean up. We still had a house n our lives. I personally know folks that got out with their lives n the clothes they was wearing. Lost everything else. My wife is clueless. Walked in one day n smelled something. She sat a candle undera table lamp n the heat started melting the plastic on the lamp shade. Still can't get her to stop putting flammable items on the stove top. She ruined a $200 on sale leather pocket book by doing just that. I think she'd learn after a SIL had two grease fire n damaged the kitchen. Plus smoke damage đź‘Ť

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Nov 3, 2022 19:44:54   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
Foodfisher wrote:
Now I'm confused. Easily done. Mine have a guage that is in the green. Whackem or don't?


Wackem FF. They're still charged but the suppressant won't come out. I didn't know it either till I received some fire training at the county đź‘Ťđź‘Ť

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Nov 3, 2022 19:56:10   #
Fireguy Loc: Alton Bay NH
 
Grizzly 17 wrote:
It's something I wish I could unsee. After being in a flood n losing alot of stuff n a giant clean up. We still had a house n our lives. I personally know folks that got out with their lives n the clothes they was wearing. Lost everything else. My wife is clueless. Walked in one day n smelled something. She sat a candle undera table lamp n the heat started melting the plastic on the lamp shade. Still can't get her to stop putting flammable items on the stove top. She ruined a $200 on sale leather pocket book by doing just that. I think she'd learn after a SIL had two grease fire n damaged the kitchen. Plus smoke damage đź‘Ť
It's something I wish I could unsee. After being i... (show quote)


Yikes, you've seen and experienced a lot of drama. Just stay positive, and Alert.

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Nov 3, 2022 20:06:10   #
Foodfisher Loc: SO. Cal coast
 
Grizzly 17 wrote:
Wackem FF. They're still charged but the suppressant won't come out. I didn't know it either till I received some fire training at the county đź‘Ťđź‘Ť


đź‘Śđź‘Ť

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Nov 3, 2022 20:35:50   #
Foodfisher Loc: SO. Cal coast
 
Grizzly 17 wrote:
Wackem FF. They're still charged but the suppressant won't come out. I didn't know it either till I received some fire training at the county đź‘Ťđź‘Ť


Done, used the heel of my hand to whack a couple times and shook til I thought that's good enough. Good enough?

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Nov 3, 2022 21:10:34   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
Jimbos wrote:
Please let me clarify:


Allow me to clarify. YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!

I have 1st hand experience with multiple extinguishers that failed to blow powder.

FireGuy (an experienced firefighter) also confirmed and augmented to my original post.

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Nov 3, 2022 22:30:35   #
Gmchief Loc: New Hampshire coast
 
Robert Johnson wrote:
Good advice Papa D, after I retired from truck driving I drove school bus for 4 years , we were required to take fire extinguishers in school bus once a month and turn upside down and shake vigorously and log it down for maintenance records. Untill then I had never herd of such a thing.🤔🌝


My 2 cents worth learned while driving truck. A lot of trucks have an extinguisher mounted on the floor under the drivers seat near the door so it can be reached from outside when the door is opened. Install it in the mount with the base facing forward and the handle facing back.
I learned the hard way! The pin had vibrated out unbeknownst to me. I was traveling down I-95 at 60 mph. I shifted in the seat and swung my foot. I heard a hiss and the cab filled with white fog. 4 lanes wide, I was second in from the right. Couldn’t see out the front and couldn’t see either mirror. I could hear traffic going by me but couldn’t see them. I signaled and started moving toward the shoulder but that was scary also as there was marsh on the sides of the freeway. The right window was down slightly and a puff of air swirled the powder just enough to see where I was. Stopped safely and jumped out for fresh air. My supervisor was with me for a check ride. We were both completely white. I did get good marks for handling an emergency!
A long story but the point is: During your pre-trip (whether truck or boat) make sure you have your extinguisher, make sure the pin is in place, and make sure you can’t accidentally bump the trigger.
Stay safe!

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Nov 3, 2022 22:37:22   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
I use elastic hair ties to secure the pins on mine (larkshead on the pin then loop goes over the top). Pin stays in until I need to pull it.

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Nov 4, 2022 08:02:54   #
Fireguy Loc: Alton Bay NH
 
Gmchief wrote:
My 2 cents worth learned while driving truck. A lot of trucks have an extinguisher mounted on the floor under the drivers seat near the door so it can be reached from outside when the door is opened. Install it in the mount with the base facing forward and the handle facing back.
I learned the hard way! The pin had vibrated out unbeknownst to me. I was traveling down I-95 at 60 mph. I shifted in the seat and swung my foot. I heard a hiss and the cab filled with white fog. 4 lanes wide, I was second in from the right. Couldn’t see out the front and couldn’t see either mirror. I could hear traffic going by me but couldn’t see them. I signaled and started moving toward the shoulder but that was scary also as there was marsh on the sides of the freeway. The right window was down slightly and a puff of air swirled the powder just enough to see where I was. Stopped safely and jumped out for fresh air. My supervisor was with me for a check ride. We were both completely white. I did get good marks for handling an emergency!
A long story but the point is: During your pre-trip (whether truck or boat) make sure you have your extinguisher, make sure the pin is in place, and make sure you can’t accidentally bump the trigger.
Stay safe!
My 2 cents worth learned while driving truck. A lo... (show quote)


Yikes! Kudos for your safe response. But a lesson learned, and passed on to others.

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