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Oct 31, 2022 16:30:54   #
dec341
 
I came to Atlanta in 74 and pollution of the Chattahoochee River was an issue. So I wrote this little poem about it that is still only recorded in my head. "Oh the fish in the river down south of the line they look mighty healthy they sparkle and shine. But you shouldn't clean them and you ought not to eat cause the poisons embedded its chemical meat. Now the politicians gather they laugh and they smile but they don't sit on the river line tight for a while. They talk about drugs some take by free choice while life in the river has no means to voice. While the limousines idle around the Capitol Dome I'm lost in confusion a fight to atone. Devising a program a political need that's thrown out of committee by money and greed."

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Oct 31, 2022 16:55:29   #
Pounding banks Loc: South Central Texas
 
dec341 wrote:
I came to Atlanta in 74 and pollution of the Chattahoochee River was an issue. So I wrote this little poem about it that is still only recorded in my head. "Oh the fish in the river down south of the line they look mighty healthy they sparkle and shine. But you shouldn't clean them and you ought not to eat cause the poisons embedded its chemical meat. Now the politicians gather they laugh and they smile but they don't sit on the river line tight for a while. They talk about drugs some take by free choice while life in the river has no means to voice. While the limousines idle around the Capitol Dome I'm lost in confusion a fight to atone. Devising a program a political need that's thrown out of committee by money and greed."
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Oct 31, 2022 17:22:22   #
Foodfisher Loc: SO. Cal coast
 
dec341 wrote:
I came to Atlanta in 74 and pollution of the Chattahoochee River was an issue. So I wrote this little poem about it that is still only recorded in my head. "Oh the fish in the river down south of the line they look mighty healthy they sparkle and shine. But you shouldn't clean them and you ought not to eat cause the poisons embedded its chemical meat. Now the politicians gather they laugh and they smile but they don't sit on the river line tight for a while. They talk about drugs some take by free choice while life in the river has no means to voice. While the limousines idle around the Capitol Dome I'm lost in confusion a fight to atone. Devising a program a political need that's thrown out of committee by money and greed."
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Pome pretty much nailed it.

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Oct 31, 2022 19:09:10   #
Pyro166 Loc: Tullahoma, TN
 
ghaynes1 wrote:
Not to open a debate about global warming here but I was curious what my fellow anglers thought about the following question:

For whatever reasons(weather, too much fishing pressure, pollution, lack of public access, etc), have you noticed a decline in your success fishing? Are you catching fewer fish? Do you work harder to catch now than you did say 5 or 10 years ago?

Any particular reasons that you think has changed your results or are they just as good as always?

I'll give you my thoughts on this later. You folks go first.
Not to open a debate about global warming here but... (show quote)


I think the increase in number of tournaments is a problem - the lakes around here have a tournament almost every weekend and some even during the week. The fish are over-pressured in my opinion and it is downright dangerous to be out there during the weekends. Almost got taken out by a guy in a bass boat coming around a blind curve in the river doing about 70 - only thing in the water was his prop...

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Oct 31, 2022 19:21:35   #
Namvet69 Loc: Ohio
 
Some inland lakes that I fish in Ohio have changed but only in catchable species Since ODNR has introduced saugeye into these lakes the demographics have changed significantly for some species. Bluegill used to be caught in good numbers during spawn but now are few and far between. Now you take a youngster with a cane pole and they’re lucky to catch any. Used to catch little ones easily anytime before. Saugeye are voracious eaters. When you walleye fish these lakes with worms you’d catch two three dozen nice bluegill not counting dozens that were small. Walleye didn’t do well so enter the saugeye. ODNR allows small bluegill to be used for catfishing. That’s reduced their number as well. Depending on species I honestly can’t say I catch less fish that I fish for but bluegills have definetly taken a huge hit.

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Oct 31, 2022 20:42:52   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
The Outcast wrote:
Good topic g..
Personally I have not seen a decline in numbers of bass and walleye, especially in the greatlakes, where for the past 40+ years I have done 90% of my fishing….I believe but cannot document that the Lakes are much cleaner that when I started fishing the Detroit River from the bank back in late 60’s, early 70’s. White bass populations in the spring were huge…and they still are today… I believe walleye populations are bigger that ever… and small mouth bass populations are bigger than they ever were also. I used to fish perch, but I don’t anymore, so I have no experience with their populations one way or another…. I have a few friends who do fish perch, and all in all they seem to do well, as I usually get a bag or two of fillets from them..I kind of quit fishing inland lakes because they just couldn’t hold a candle to the big lakes as far as numbers and sheer size of fish..but I am only one person, so a very small limited view point….
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Thanks Outcast. I think the majority opinion is that there has been changes or a decline. It does vary though depending on where you fish. The cleanliness of the water has improved in some areas. The TN river which pours into all the lakes around hear, is pretty dirty. But we do have some lakes in east TN that are very clear. Thanks for your comments.

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Oct 31, 2022 20:50:25   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Pyro166 wrote:
I think the increase in number of tournaments is a problem - the lakes around here have a tournament almost every weekend and some even during the week. The fish are over-pressured in my opinion and it is downright dangerous to be out there during the weekends. Almost got taken out by a guy in a bass boat coming around a blind curve in the river doing about 70 - only thing in the water was his prop...



The only thing in the water was his prop. The only thing in his head was NOTHING.

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Oct 31, 2022 20:54:39   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
kandydisbar wrote:
Don't forget Murder Hornets wiping out entire bee hives!


They should be incarcerated and put to death.

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Oct 31, 2022 20:59:12   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
bapabear wrote:
Northern Puget Sound has gone so far down hill that Most species of fish can not even be fished for and those that can have such short seasons that the season can be wiped out entirely for small boats by a windy few weeks. I dan remember on most any day, going out in my 10 foot inflatable and getting my 10 rockfish, a couple lings and and all the greenling I wanted to catch. For me, the limits were just a target, as I released almost everything but the lings. I caught most rockfish using bass and trout gear while casting bass jigs, in under 30 feet of water. I am no longer allowed to fish for rockfish but that little maters, because I rarely catch one as by catch fishing for greenling. Just a side note, catching greenling has also become a challenge. For some reason the massive bull kelp beds are dwindling to kelp patches. Oh well, in a few more years I will be to old to go anyway. As for fresh water, the local bass fishing is in all likelihood better, but I can not say for sure as I don't like fishing the milfoil that is clogging all my old favorite fishing spots. Salmon I won't even get into. On the positive side, stocked trout are much larger than they used to be and triploids add a bit of spice. Kokanee have turned alot of lakes into good fishing locations and taken the pressure off of other fish in many of those lakes.

Bottom Line: More people means less fish per person and more commercial caught fish consumed, combined with more pollution, loss of high yield habitat and higher environmental impact.
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You are exactly right sir. More people… same planet.. same volume of water etc that is partially frozen and some fresh some salt. More people will always mean less fish for the planet let alone each person.

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Oct 31, 2022 21:02:11   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Pounding banks wrote:
i don't believe it has anything to do with global warming. i think fish are getting alot of pressure, they are seeing the same lures and shying away, down here in texas we are getting tons of hydrilla that they didn't have before and now they are hiding there to ambush feed, which requires a different kind of fishing. I've had some of my best days here these last couple years. but what do i know, anyway, that's just my take.



What do you think hurts colder water critters and fish? What do you think temperature does to Oxygen content? What do you think makes the hydrilla more prevalent? So is it getting cooler in only one part of the globe or something?

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Oct 31, 2022 21:26:04   #
XGTOMAN Loc: Bluegrass State
 
No, no decrease, I believe it's getting better for me. This has been my best year yet. Especially smallmouth.

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Oct 31, 2022 22:33:43   #
dbed Loc: POMME DE TERRE LAKE MISSOURI
 
plumbob wrote:
" non fisherman " Interesting statement dbed. True electronics has helped many a fisher fill their creel. But personally i like the challenge of finding them and have yet purchase a fish finder.

However, to each their own.


Should have said inexperienced fisherman

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Oct 31, 2022 23:30:41   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
A couple years. Ice melted? HUH? So Climatologist study thousands of centuries worth of ice.. but in one US location they believe Thousands of Centuries are a few years?

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Nov 1, 2022 01:57:02   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Ghaynest 1,
I am truly sorry your very good post and thought provoking question was dragged into the tanker. Unfortunately, it is a sign of the times. I expect most of the people on here feel as I do, but that is just my feeling based on most past responses. I don't presume to speak for others, but I hope you stick around with more subjects. Thanks,
By the way, I am just a reader. I have no connection to the site.

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Nov 1, 2022 04:59:09   #
ghaynes1 Loc: Strawberry Plains, TN
 
bapabear wrote:
Ghaynest 1,
I am truly sorry your very good post and thought provoking question was dragged into the tanker. Unfortunately, it is a sign of the times. I expect most of the people on here feel as I do, but that is just my feeling based on most past responses. I don't presume to speak for others, but I hope you stick around with more subjects. Thanks,
By the way, I am just a reader. I have no connection to the site.


Thanks bapabear. I was thinking the same thing. I knew when I started this thread(remember I said I didn't want it to be about global warming), that it would probably go in that direction. The reason I asked the question is it's about fishing on a fishing site. People have told me they have seen a decline over the years in fish caught. It's harder to catch them. Just wondering if others had the same experience. I didn't count the responses but it seems regardless of where you live, fishing is more challenging. As difficult as it can be sometimes, I try and stay away from certain subjects. I guess I thought this topic was fairly safe.

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