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Jun 19, 2022 09:13:43   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Gordon wrote:
That's the one I have Fred. Works great


I put one on my Trihull years ago G. Some of the Gas docks on the Sound used to be notorious for having water in their tanks. Solved the problem with the Racor. There's cheaper brands on Amazon, listed as "Marine" but when looking at the details, the companies were described as "Tractor supply companies" . They will probably work as well, but I don't know if they'll hold up in the Marine environment.

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Jun 19, 2022 10:24:44   #
HarryNH Loc: Amherst NH
 
Thanks

I'm going with a Racor. It's made by Parker, which make nuclear grade pipe and tubing connectors and valves, so that right there says it's gotta be good. there is a Racor distributor in Portsmouth so I'm calling them tomorrow and maybe go get one, of order one from them for delivery here. Fred, thank you very much for your advice and general information.

Harry

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Jun 19, 2022 10:40:00   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
HarryNH wrote:
Thanks

I'm going with a Racor. It's made by Parker, which make nuclear grade pipe and tubing connectors and valves, so that right there says it's gotta be good. there is a Racor distributor in Portsmouth so I'm calling them tomorrow and maybe go get one, of order one from them for delivery here. Fred, thank you very much for your advice and general information.

Harry


You're welcome Henry. Check prices online, as you can probably save quite a bit vs buying from a distributor. Good luck buddy and I'm looking forward to the upcoming pictures.

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Jun 19, 2022 12:44:49   #
Barnacles Loc: Northern California
 
Harry, when you do your plumbing, you have to decide whether to put the squeezy bulb upstream or downstream of the filter. I chose to have it between the filter and the tank. That way, I can make a little bit of positive pressure to help things along when I drain it. Also, the squeeze bulb doesn't have to deal with a lot of air while I'm first filling the filter. Further, it makes it easy to pressurize the filter to make sure that there are no leaks.

On the other hand, if the squeeze bulb were between the filter and the motor, a collapsed squeeze bulb would indicate a clogged filter.

Anyway, you think it out and decide.

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Jun 19, 2022 13:26:36   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Barnacles wrote:
Harry, when you do your plumbing, you have to decide whether to put the squeezy bulb upstream or downstream of the filter. I chose to have it between the filter and the tank. That way, I can make a little bit of positive pressure to help things along when I drain it. Also, the squeeze bulb doesn't have to deal with a lot of air while I'm first filling the filter. Further, it makes it easy to pressurize the filter to make sure that there are no leaks.

On the other hand, if the squeeze bulb were between the filter and the motor, a collapsed squeeze bulb would indicate a clogged filter.

Anyway, you think it out and decide.
Harry, when you do your plumbing, you have to deci... (show quote)


Good point Barney. I put mine before the squeeze ball, right after the line came through the bulkhead. More for convenience of mounting than anything else.

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Jun 19, 2022 14:06:24   #
Barnacles Loc: Northern California
 
It's nice to rig things so that the squeezy bulb's arrow is pointed up, or can be while you're squeezing it. Not super important, but easier to get the air out.

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Jun 19, 2022 14:14:06   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Barnacles wrote:
It's nice to rig things so that the squeezy bulb's arrow is pointed up, or can be while you're squeezing it. Not super important, but easier to get the air out.


Yes it is.

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Jun 19, 2022 21:34:35   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
HarryNH wrote:
Hi folks. I thought I'd share an adventure I have been having with my old 1974 Mercury 402 outboard. I live way up north in Amherst NH, and am the proud owner of my grandfathers old Terry Bass boat, which came with a 1974 Mercury 402 outboard. I became the custodian of "family" boat about 10 years ago and I look at it as an honor to keep the memory of my grandfather alive. However, I am finding it becoming more and more of a challenge to get the motor running in the spring. Usually I need to clean and rebuild the carburetor. However, this year has been a classic. It started off kinda like it usually does with the motor running rough, but then the motor got to where it barely would idle. And then if it was running, it would suddenly just die and refuse to restart until it decided it was ready.

So, I took it to a friend of mine who loves working on old motors and stuff and after messing with it for a day, we finally decided to clean the carb again so we took it apart and found water in the bowl. That was a surprise, but we cleaned the carb and then turned our attention to where did the water come from. The first place we looked was the fuel tank that was connected to the motor. We drained it, looked at the gas (which was Hi-Test and a week old) and no water. Then, we looked at the other tank of gas from last year, and found about a quart of water in bottom of the tank. Where the water came from, I have no idea. But, I had started off using that tank for the first motor run as usual so that was the source of the water. So, we were very careful to try to flush everything in the fuel system that may have been contaminated. The fuel line was flushed with air, and it had water in it. After that was clean, we fired the motor up again and the same thing was still happening - it would run and then just die. So, we pulled the plugs and they had water on them. Then we took one of those inspection cameras and looked inside the cylinders and saw the evidence of water on the rings so we assumed that we had water in the crank case, which made sense. So now, the problem became how do you get the water out of the crank case.

When I got the boat and motor, I bought a copy of the Mercury 402 manual on-line and kept a copy of it. The manual contained a discussion of what to do if your motor gets submerged. what the book said was to remove the motor from the boat, pull the plugs, put the motor in the horizontal position, plug side facing down, and them manually rotate the motor with a wrench for about 10 revolutions to purge as much water as possible. Once that has been done, pour a good amount of alcohol down the carburetor throat (alcohol absorbs water), and then manually spin the motor a couple of revolutions to pump the alcohol through the system. And then, pour motor oil into the carburetor and then manually spin the motor again. Once you have done all of this, put the motor back on the boat and see if it will start. If so, start the motor and run it for about an hour just to make sure all of the water has been purged from the motor. so, we did all of that today and the motor started and seems to be running about as it should. Now I am going to take the boat to the lake on Monday and run it around the lake for a while and purge the last of the motor, and finally I can go fishing. Morale of the story, don't get cheap by trying to use last years left over gas. I put stabilizer in the gas, Sea Foam, some Mercury enzyme gas treatment, and all of that stuff. From now on, last years gas gets tossed and I'm starting out fresh.
Hi folks. I thought I'd share an adventure I have ... (show quote)


Good plan. When I used to run those old boats it was well worth my time to just tear the carbs down and kit em every year. I used all the recommended fuels and did all the recommended, precautionary, maintenance but still had issues every year the first few times out. It took me about 30 minutes and less than $20.00 a year to take the carbs apart, clean em out real good with carb cleaner and an air hose and put a kit in em every spring before I started fishing. Once I did that I knew it was gonna start and run great the rest of the season. Running them out of fuel does little besides drying all the seals out anyway. Putting additives in with hopes of a fresh running motor in the spring never works well either. I’d suggest just learn, if you don’t already know, how to take your carb apart and start each season with a fresh rebuild. Any third grader could do it (not an insult it’s just that simple). Good luck. AND!!! A water separator is mandatory on any boat I have now because the best fuel you can buy for your boat now is not good fuel. The days of good fuel are long gone🤨

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Jun 19, 2022 22:14:07   #
HarryNH Loc: Amherst NH
 
Thanks for the support Catfish. I appreciate it.

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Jun 19, 2022 22:42:47   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
HarryNH wrote:
Thanks for the support Catfish. I appreciate it.


You’re welcome. Just sharing my experiences with those old motors and what saved me a lot of headaches. Good luck.

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