FS Digest wrote:
Hi I have been bass fishing for about a year now and I still use a push button and a spinning reel I have tried a bait caster but can’t for the life of me not back lash any tips?
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by bveryx
Forget about rod tensions and everything else. The only thing you need to learn is how to put your thumb lightly on the spool to control over run of the spool. It won’t matter about rod control, reel tension, weights or anything else. Just learn thumb pressure.
The best tip is to buy a good reel and nothing off of ebay like those one's made in China and don't over fill your spool. Learn to adjust your magnetic brake on you reel before even trying to learn how to use a bait casting reel and learn to do a flip cast by using your rist and not your arm,and you will be surprised at how much more control you have.
I’m no expert. I’ve found despite all the you tube videos, don’t even try to use a lure <3/8oz. Ok, tie on a lure( or something), set the brakes out half way, tighten the cast control knob(the little one) snug enough that you lure doe not fall when the release is pressed. Hold the rod parallel to the floor and rotate it so that your handle is pointed toward the floor. Press the release and then VERY SLOWLY loosen the cast control knob until the lureJUST STARTS TO MOVE (NOT FALL TO THE FLOOR) Then cast. If it back lashes, tighten the cast control knob just a little
Oops. Set the brake about half way
After you cast rotate the reel. The change in inertia slows the spool.
Find an old one without the fancy perks use it.
Thumb management.
I had never owned or used a baitcaster until recently and watching YouTube prodded me into getting one. I bought a KastKing Spartacus, set it up as described in the video and have as yet had a backlash. If set up correctly you absolutely do not have to use your thumb to stop or slow down the reel to prevent backlash as you do with most reels as I understand it.
KastKing also makes a 9.1 retrieval rate baitcaster called Megajaws I am thinking seriously about buying next at around $60.00. Paying $100.00 and over for a reel that is “considered” top of the line makes no sense when there are reels for $60.00 or $70.00 that are better quality. You pay all that money for a name as opposed to quality such as paying 60-70 dollars for Levi’s when Wranglers at 20 dollars wear just as well.
True story: my ex-wife foolishly bought me 2 pair of True Religion jeans at $395.00 per pair and they do not wear or feel any better than my old Wranglers and the only time I wear them is when I expect to see her. Same thing holds true with rods and reels, foolish is as foolish does and common sense is put on hold and like the old cliche, “a fool and his money is soon parted”.
Sorry but I do not understand people that have been blackmailed into thinking or paying all that money for a reel that doesn’t help catch fish any better than a reel that costs somewhere in the 50-60 dollar range or less. It is the bait that attracts the fish not the rod or reel. In fact I have a retired Mitchell 308 that over the years that particular reel has helped catch as many fish as many other high dollar reels and they still sell for less than $40.00. But that is the problem with the human animal, more often than not they don’t have enough common sense to get in out of the rain and the same holds true when purchasing rods and reels. My common sense causes me to spend 2-3 weeks researching and reading reviews before I buy anything that creates a large empty space in my wallet. Without a doubt the best decision I have made recently was trying out the KastKing line of reels. I now have 5 KastKing spinning reels and one baitcaster KastKing and I assure you they are extremely high quality at an extremely low cost compared to Shimano and Daiwa based on my extensive research and reading comparison reviews.
I had never owned or used a baitcaster until recently and watching YouTube prodded me into getting one. I bought a KastKing Spartacus, set it up as described in the video and have as yet had a backlash. If set up correctly you absolutely do not have to use your thumb to stop or slow down the reel to prevent backlash as you do with most reels as I understand it.
KastKing also makes a 9.1 retrieval rate baitcaster called Megajaws I am thinking seriously about buying next at around $60.00. Paying $100.00 and over for a reel that is “considered” top of the line makes no sense when there are reels for $60.00 or $70.00 that are better quality. You pay all that money for a name as opposed to quality such as paying 60-70 dollars for Levi’s when Wranglers at 20 dollars wear just as well.
True story: my ex-wife foolishly bought me 2 pair of True Religion jeans at $395.00 per pair and they do not wear or feel any better than my old Wranglers and the only time I wear them is when I expect to see her. Same thing holds true with rods and reels, foolish is as foolish does and common sense is put on hold and like the old cliche, “a fool and his money is soon parted”.
Sorry but I do not understand people that have been blackmailed into thinking or paying all that money for a reel that doesn’t help catch fish any better than a reel that costs somewhere in the 50-60 dollar range or less. It is the bait that attracts the fish not the rod or reel. In fact I have a retired Mitchell 308 that over the years that particular reel has helped catch as many fish as many other high dollar reels and they still sell for less than $40.00. But that is the problem with the human animal, more often than not they don’t have enough common sense to get in out of the rain and the same holds true when purchasing rods and reels. My common sense causes me to spend 2-3 weeks researching and reading reviews before I buy anything that creates a large empty space in my wallet. Without a doubt the best decision I have made recently was trying out the KastKing line of reels. I now have 5 KastKing spinning reels and one baitcaster KastKing and I assure you they are extremely high quality at an extremely low cost compared to Shimano and Daiwa based on my extensive research and reading comparison reviews.
MadMac
Loc: Marion (in Grant County) Indiana
I feel pretty much the same way about the price of many products being jacked up by the name game. Many products. Not all products.
I can set every bait cast reel that I own so that I can cast without using my thumb and not backlash.
I won't do it.
I can cast much farther much easier if I set them up so that if I don't use my thumb they back lash. I hate to sound like I'm bragging but I can make some impressive roll casts setting my reels up the way I do it. If I set them up so that I don't have to use my thumb the distance is cut in half at least and it's harder to get that much distance.
Yeah you can do it but why?
Why cheat yourself out of the ability to make those beautiful, long, effortless casts just so you don't have to thumb the spool?
I own Shimanos, Abu Garcias, Shakespheres, a Ryobi, an FLW and a Bass Pro reel. An even dozen reels. Low profile and round conventional reels. The only fancy one is a Shimano with a flipping switch and anti-reverse switch. One Diawa. It belonged to a buddy and his daughter gave it to me after he died. It must need a cleaning. It won't cast anywhere as far as my other reels.
The last time I backlashed a reel I did it on purpose. You can't teach someone how to clear a backlash unless you have one.
I'm a newb at bait casting. I've only been using them since 1979. Some of these old hands that grew up with them know why you want to get the most out of a bait cast reel and they know why you set them up so that you still need to thumb the spool. Especially when casting into a stiff wind or going for unusually long distances.
No. You don't have to set them so you have to thumb the spool.
You miss out on a lot if you do it.
The main thing...the important thing... is that you do it the way you enjoy doing it.
Use the thumb.
If the break, breaks your broke for the
Day.
And or until you get it fixed.
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