saw1 wrote:
Yep it's either one or the other for me most all the time.
I looked up the Palomar I can use it. A loop through the eye then single overhand with the loop split over hook then pull snug. The cinch is good for egg loops. I spin the loop on an egg loop 7 times for good luck.
When I said trilene… I meant cinch knot with trilene line seems to slip. Usually had to do it three times. I think Palomar will be my go to.
Thanks buddy.
Jeremy wrote:
If they have a tip that is looped or bent it helps. I pinch the brass on cheaper type snap swivels so they can’t bend straight. Your lucky if never had one bent straight. Maybe not targeting large fish.
Thats precisely why I only use duolocks
charlykilo wrote:
Maybe? But never had those problems with top notch snap swivels.
I never have either and I've used them on 1500 pound sturgeon.
A cinch knot will not work as an egg loop knot. Two entirely different knots.
saw1 wrote:
I use the Palomar knot for tying a lot.
So do I Steve. My Grand Dad taught me that one when I was about 6 and I've used it ever since. All of my kids and grandkids use it too👍
Seegundo wrote:
Have you tried wetting the knot with saliva I do both loops then five turns and back through then I wet it with saliva and pull tight
I have been using trout spinners for over 50 years I tie them this way run your line threw the eyelet hold the two pieces together twist them a few times then put the loose end threw the hole where your line loops then pull tight I use the same knot for hooks works very well.
4# cabela’s I don’t think they carry it any more.
I use palomar and quality swivels when needed and good swivels I've never needed to pinch anything and have caught up to 400 pound marlin.
I've mentioned this before but if you're tying at home consider a drop of cooking oil in lieu of saliva. It is slicker.
saw1
Loc: nor cal Windsor
Jeremy wrote:
I looked up the Palomar I can use it. A loop through the eye then single overhand with the loop split over hook then pull snug. The cinch is good for egg loops. I spin the loop on an egg loop 7 times for good luck.
When I said trilene… I meant cinch knot with trilene line seems to slip. Usually had to do it three times. I think Palomar will be my go to.
Thanks buddy.
Yep, it's a great knot and it doesn't slip either.
Seegundo wrote:
Trilene knot is a 95% knot improved clinch is a 50% knot polamer knot is a 95% knot. On a line test machine a 14# line will break a about 15.5# . With any knot you'll lose a little bit try the trilene or polamar knot. You be closer to the dead pull strength. Remember to wet the knot with saliva prior to cinching it down so it doesn't burn the monofilament or Flurocarbon.
Good advice....thanks....
Always have to chuckle when I hear someone say "snap swivels" are a "visual turn-off" to fish, especially when the subject is SPINNER LURES.... hehehe.
Are you simply not seeing the fact that a snap swivel is just MORE SHINY HARDWARE, on a lure that IS 2"-4" of shiny hardware, & the SnSw is usually much, much smaller than the SHINY HOOKS DANGLING ? How ludicrous.
ALL hardware, from nails and screws, hinges, brackets, drawer guides, etc. in the building trades to precision bearings, gears, line guides, ferrules, crank handles, hooks, split rings, SNAP SWIVELS, etc. in the fishing world.....is widely available in wildly different qualities.
And cheap hardware WILL FAIL....houses fall into disrepair, fish come "unbuttoned".
Quit buying the cheap "Danielson" and "Eagle Claw" crap, and buy PLine or other QUALITY snap swivels..... have never had one fail..... even on BIG FISH, Jeremy. They make a variety of sizes/test weights....pick wisely and CORRECTLY, please.
And as for the suggestion to use vegetable oil, rather than saliva, to cinch down a clinch knot ?
The practice of using saliva is to mitigate the friction/friction heat generated in that ONE INSTANCE OF CINCH, not to make the line "slippery enough" so that it becomes "easier" for you.... though I suppose you could try to kill two birds with one stone by using WD-40....cinch-slide-helper/scent attraction..... hehehe...... still not anything I can recommend doing.
Or......if you refuse to use a swivel with a spinner..... do prepare us a wonderfully engaging treatise on "How to Deal with Line Twist"..... enthrall us, please.
Thanks for the suggestions
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