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Nov 3, 2021 20:54:39   #
Gene Golden Loc: Gettysburg PA
 
You know my story, now here's my plan:

I have an abundance of wide PVC Pipe, and lots of Plexi and Adhesives.
I'm seriously considering constructing an "Underwater Scope".
Since I only need to see about five or six feet below the surface of the water, this may be doable.

--- By attaching a clear Plexi window to the bottom of a PVC tube, I could lower it into the water, and have a viewer.
--- One major issue, would be to have enough weight at the bottom, to compensate for the buoyancy of a submerged tube.
--- I have 6", and maybe 8", PVC pipe, in six or eight feet lengths.
--- I'm considering attaching several 2" PVC pipes around the lower 24", with the bottoms capped - and I can just drop lead weights into them, as needed, to use as ballast.
--- A couple of rope, or plastic handles at the top, to hold and control the aim.
--- Maybe a ring, or a full sleeve of wider PVC pipe, to enable the viewer to slide down, to prevent the bottom from wanting to float upward.
--- Maybe a flotation ring, and rope tied off at the top.
--- Since most metal detectors are only about 4 to 5 foot long, I could possibly find a large enough diameter tube, to allow me to slide the detector to the bottom, and not become submerged below the "non-waterproof" display box.
--- I can test it in a 55 gallon barrel of water.

I believe that, by using lead ballast, I won't be forcing the scope into the water by hand.
Pushing a closed-ended tube, five feet into the water, would cause a counter-pressure situation, that could cause the boat to list to the opposite side.
I think the weights, attached at the base, will compensate for that action/reaction.

I'm sure there are other things I haven't considered yet, but I'll work out the kinks as I build it.

What are your thoughts?
Have any of you made anything like this?
What are the pitfalls to avoid?

Thanks.

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Nov 3, 2021 21:02:13   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Sounds like a plan. I have never considered an underwater scope. Just Sayin...RJS

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Nov 3, 2021 21:09:05   #
OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin
 
I believe you are ready for a prototype.
I hope it works as planned…good luck!

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Nov 3, 2021 21:29:08   #
Barnacles Loc: Northern California
 
Uh, one problem! Looking through a 5 or 6 foot long PVC pipe would be like looking at a movie screen through a soda straw. You'll have a really narrow field of view, even with an 8 inch diameter pipe!

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Nov 3, 2021 21:44:33   #
charlykilo Loc: Garden Valley Ca
 
18 inches is the max you need. Just get below the surfus.

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Nov 3, 2021 22:07:11   #
mistred64 Loc: Grayslake, illinois
 
When you're on Shark Tank give us a shout out.

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Nov 3, 2021 23:39:18   #
Will1027 Loc: Hood Canal
 
What are you looking for???

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Nov 3, 2021 23:39:31   #
Will1027 Loc: Hood Canal
 
What are you looking for???

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Nov 3, 2021 23:47:39   #
Gene Golden Loc: Gettysburg PA
 
Will1027 wrote:
What are you looking for???

Will,
Last week, I capsized my 10' Jon Boat, in about six feet of water, at a lake.
Rods; reels; anchors; rope; tools; and a FULL tackle box, with some legacy lures I've had since I was a kid.

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Nov 4, 2021 01:41:34   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Gene Golden wrote:
Will,
Last week, I capsized my 10' Jon Boat, in about six feet of water, at a lake.
Rods; reels; anchors; rope; tools; and a FULL tackle box, with some legacy lures I've had since I was a kid.


You could have a dry chamber at the tip and fill the majority with sand or antifreeze so it wont self destruct in winter if forgotten Sand won't care about temps. 3.14R squared can be used to figure out volume meaning exact weight etc. I would just do what your thinking. There is fishing cameras though you can put on down riggers. There is waterproof stuff these days. Practically attach to a pole or selfy stick etc.

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Nov 4, 2021 01:45:40   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
I just clicked for a minute for 140 bucks lowrance has a cam with over 40' of lead. No engineering needed just put on heavy braided line on down rigger or meat rod etc. What is value of what you lost? Isn't there a Scuba class or something somewhere at a college you could hook up with Instructor or students etc?

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Nov 4, 2021 05:02:08   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
Gene Golden wrote:
You know my story, now here's my plan:

I have an abundance of wide PVC Pipe, and lots of Plexi and Adhesives.
I'm seriously considering constructing an "Underwater Scope".
Since I only need to see about five or six feet below the surface of the water, this may be doable.

--- By attaching a clear Plexi window to the bottom of a PVC tube, I could lower it into the water, and have a viewer.
--- One major issue, would be to have enough weight at the bottom, to compensate for the buoyancy of a submerged tube.
--- I have 6", and maybe 8", PVC pipe, in six or eight feet lengths.
--- I'm considering attaching several 2" PVC pipes around the lower 24", with the bottoms capped - and I can just drop lead weights into them, as needed, to use as ballast.
--- A couple of rope, or plastic handles at the top, to hold and control the aim.
--- Maybe a ring, or a full sleeve of wider PVC pipe, to enable the viewer to slide down, to prevent the bottom from wanting to float upward.
--- Maybe a flotation ring, and rope tied off at the top.
--- Since most metal detectors are only about 4 to 5 foot long, I could possibly find a large enough diameter tube, to allow me to slide the detector to the bottom, and not become submerged below the "non-waterproof" display box.
--- I can test it in a 55 gallon barrel of water.

I believe that, by using lead ballast, I won't be forcing the scope into the water by hand.
Pushing a closed-ended tube, five feet into the water, would cause a counter-pressure situation, that could cause the boat to list to the opposite side.
I think the weights, attached at the base, will compensate for that action/reaction.

I'm sure there are other things I haven't considered yet, but I'll work out the kinks as I build it.

What are your thoughts?
Have any of you made anything like this?
What are the pitfalls to avoid?

Thanks.
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Did you put an X on the water to mark the spot? Any current?

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Nov 4, 2021 08:05:59   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
Gene Golden wrote:
Will,
Last week, I capsized my 10' Jon Boat, in about six feet of water, at a lake.
Rods; reels; anchors; rope; tools; and a FULL tackle box, with some legacy lures I've had since I was a kid.


Gene here Bass Pro choice of cameras



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Nov 4, 2021 08:36:18   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Grizzly 17 wrote:
Gene here Bass Pro choice of cameras




What is estimated value of what you want to recover?

Engineering the thing your thinking up sounds like something I would want to do or previous employer would ask me to invent but heck you can even have GPS etc recorded to bring Scuba kids back to it.

I wondering if there is not some SCUBA certified that would really enjoy the challenge with you.

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Nov 4, 2021 09:14:10   #
Jungle Ranch Fish Camp Loc: Punta Gorda, FL
 
My off the shelf fish finder can readily see Gators on the bottom at 10 -20 feet, it would seem like any late model fish finder would see the debris field easily.

If it’s really that shallow, maybe a homemade boroscope would see it just fine. Main thing you need is to light it up brightly.

I always liked that lake, drove by it a lot, had a place in Etters, lived in Gburg for years. If I was still around there, would love to boat on that lake

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