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Oct 2, 2021 20:16:04   #
ranger632 Loc: Near Yosemite Park Ca.
 
bapabear wrote:
I have been thinking about this and starting to wonder: Does it really mater if they see the line. Are they really smart enough to associate the line with someone waiting to fry them. I believe it might be more about the line having reflection, vibe or non natural color that spooks them in certain light but not in other light. I also believe being spooked by line is a learned behavior. Heavy fished water seems to have fish that spook easier than isolated water. Most water is filled with string type stuff, especially if it is full of mill foil and summer die off. I once (1978) caught trout in a couple feet wide feeder creek in Alaska using 100 pound yellow power pro from my survival pack. The hook came from my survival pack as did the jar of eggs. I was moose hunting at the time. I doubt those fish had ever seen fishing line of any type. ( yes, wanting trout for diner was an emergency)
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Oct 2, 2021 21:36:08   #
Chuck56 Loc: Texas
 
No, it should not. Carp and catfish are as dumb as a box of rocks. Bass aren’t very much higher in the IQ department. Bass will hit lures with giant hooks and pieces or wire attached to them. If these fish are hungry they will not care about the line color. They are more interested in what’s on the end of the line....My 2cents..

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Oct 2, 2021 21:37:31   #
ranger632 Loc: Near Yosemite Park Ca.
 
Chuck56 wrote:
No, it should not. Carp and catfish are as dumb as a box of rocks. Bass aren’t very much higher in the IQ department. Bass will hit lures with giant hooks and pieces or wire attached to them. If these fish are hungry they will not care about the line color. They are more interested in what’s on the end of the line....My 2cents..


good answer

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Oct 2, 2021 23:10:08   #
johnlmac Loc: Salem OR
 
I use different colored braid main line for trout steelhead and salmon. It makes no difference the color but I use a leader that is clear fluorocarbon and caught 3 salmon both yesterday and today casting spinners with a 3' leader.

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Oct 3, 2021 07:51:11   #
GeorgeG Loc: Pensacola
 
Several years ago I bought a spool of Cajun red line.i kept a close eye on my catches with that versus regular trilene.i definitively had fewer hookups.this was fishing for bluegill and the occasional bass in Indiana's normally stained water

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Oct 3, 2021 09:13:22   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
GeorgeG wrote:
Several years ago I bought a spool of Cajun red line.i kept a close eye on my catches with that versus regular trilene.i definitively had fewer hookups.this was fishing for bluegill and the occasional bass in Indiana's normally stained water


George I use Cajun red never noticed a difference. Watched a show recently about fishing with red. The light passes through the line instead of reflecting off like on solid objects. It wasn't a commercial for Cajun.

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Oct 3, 2021 13:30:46   #
froze
 
bapabear wrote:
All the answers are at least part right. Reason: different fish have different eyesight to use the simplest term. Trout can be very sensitive to line size and color. For halibut, I use about a 3/16 in. dia. braided nylon netting line for my leader on the charter boat. It is easy to hold on to. Just for general info, it is almost forest green. I have tried other lines including floro and mono with no significant change. I fished in water with good visibility using both bait and jigs. On the other hand, I have fished lakes where 12 pound flor vs. six pound floro. make a major difference on trout.. It may be do to how the lure moves on the lighter vs. heavier line or some other variable I have overlooked. I have also caught a lot of trout on 12 pound as well, so nothing firm there. As for bass, I guess it is knowing whate line, lure, presentation and location is what separates the KVD's from the rest of us.
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Lures do move better with lighter line.

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Oct 3, 2021 13:52:53   #
Pixiedog456005 Loc: Maryland
 
This be true!!!

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Oct 3, 2021 14:45:58   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
I have switched to white and florescent green on all my rigs. I have tried a lot of line and can see those two colors better than any other line in nearly all light conditions. I just tie on clear floro leader and don't have to worry about what the fish can see. I have 6, 12 and 20 floro. (I use line rather than leader material as it is much cheaper.) That covers everything from mini plugs and 1/64 oz. jigs to frogs and heavy spoons. I have 12 lb. mono green and 30 lb. braid main line. I don't punch through green stuff so don't need heavier gear. For salt I have 80 lb. Power Pro on bait caster and 25 lb. mono on my mooching rods. I don't use braid on the mooching rods as it does not offer enough resistance when jigging iron (Point Wilson Darts) which I use a lot and it still trolls well. That seems to cover everything except fly gear and steel leaders for pike. This seems to be a simple approach to eliminating a lot of question that are still not answered to my satisfaction. Let the brain nerds and want to be brain nerds deal with the rods and cones.

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Oct 3, 2021 14:53:35   #
froze
 
bapabear wrote:
I have been thinking about this and starting to wonder: Does it really mater if they see the line. Are they really smart enough to associate the line with someone waiting to fry them. I believe it might be more about the line having reflection, vibe or non natural color that spooks them in certain light but not in other light. I also believe being spooked by line is a learned behavior. Heavy fished water seems to have fish that spook easier than isolated water. Most water is filled with string type stuff, especially if it is full of mill foil and summer die off. I once (1978) caught trout in a couple feet wide feeder creek in Alaska using 100 pound yellow power pro from my survival pack. The hook came from my survival pack as did the jar of eggs. I was moose hunting at the time. I doubt those fish had ever seen fishing line of any type. ( yes, wanting trout for diner was an emergency)
I have been thinking about this and starting to wo... (show quote)


I think fish are smart enough to know when something isn't quite right, it doesn't look like what it should look like in nature. Of course I don't believe they're contemplating it, but more like it's instinct, real fish don't have a long line attached to it, this they see and know something's wrong. How far can we take that? I don't know, but I do know I tried green line that I had been using in algae water in a clear stream and didn't catch anything, so I switched reels to one that had clear line and I started to catch fish, I've had that happen before too. They use to make this glowing purplish bluish mono line quite a few years ago (not sure if they still make this stuff or not) that you could see real easily, and you could see it in the water, it was pretty cool looking, but I had miserable success at catching fish for a long time, then some guy saw me using this stuff and told be to get rid of it and go to clear mono, I did and my catch rate went up. This was on a river where bass was not prominent, supposedly bass can't see the blue or purple line.

So why deal with all the what if's when you can simply use clear fluorocarbon line in any type of water?

Some pros I heard are coloring their braided lines black, so do they know something we don't?

Here is a video, skip ahead to 2:00 in the video to get pass all the BS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IsIJFyH13A

Here is another video showing different weights of lines, skip ahead to 3:17 to get to the meat of the matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4NFKd4lKhw

Who can tell what a fish can see and not see, scientists are saying they can see as well as a human can...how do they determine that? after all it's the brain that interprets what the eyes see, not the eyes, as far as I know we haven't got the technology to go inside a fish's brain and see what it sees.

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Oct 3, 2021 15:40:55   #
PierRat904 Loc: St. Augustine
 
With using a leader I have no concerns about visibility. I do like to be able to distinguish my line from others so a bright line helps when I fish the pier: too many beginners tangle with my lines.

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Oct 3, 2021 18:28:15   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
Using a sharpie to make black marks on braid has bee around for yrs. My thinking is if the line tied to lures have any real effect on the fish we wouldn't catch so many. Look at some of the artificial baits that fish hit. We can't believe everything we read. One time the experts say watch what fish are feeding on. Then they say show them something different. I say do what you're confident with n what works for you 👍

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Oct 3, 2021 19:30:22   #
froze
 
I think most lures on the market today are not really designed with catching fish in mind as much as they are design to catch the fishermen!

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Oct 3, 2021 20:21:43   #
Grizzly 17 Loc: South central Pa
 
froze wrote:
I think most lures on the market today are not really designed with catching fish in mind as much as they are design to catch the fishermen!

You got that right. I'm not sure where they come up with all the crazy names. Fish will hit anything once.
Good baits will bring them back if presented proper.

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Oct 3, 2021 20:23:43   #
ranger632 Loc: Near Yosemite Park Ca.
 
froze wrote:
I think most lures on the market today are not really designed with catching fish in mind as much as they are design to catch the fishermen!


Been saying that for years

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