The ethics & morals of sportfishing
Sep 26, 2019 10:23:29 #
Sep 26, 2019 11:23:41 #
I look at it like this, apart from the differences in nerve perception ( their brains don't process pain the way we do, they feel pressure) fish have no moral dilemma with killing and eating anything they can, even past the point of necessity (they will eat regurgitate and keep eating if a food source is plentiful) so if they have no conscience in how they go about there lives, then other than the instinctive response to flee danger, they have no feeling either way about being caught... other than killing them for reasons other than food, I see no moral dilemma in spending a couple minutes visiting my local fish...
Sep 27, 2019 07:18:29 #
Raw Dawg Ron
Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
Nature will take care of itself with a little help from us too! Don`t sweat it, if you foul hook a fish another fish or turtle just got dinner! Experience the outdoors and all its glory! Be a sportsman or lady that can survive in the outdoors! Really food does not live on groceries store shelves, its an outdoor thing and had to be harvested animals, plants or under water living things?
Sep 27, 2019 07:54:46 #
Raw Dawg Ron wrote:
Nature will take care of itself with a little help from us too! Don`t sweat it, if you foul hook a fish another fish or turtle just got dinner! Experience the outdoors and all its glory! Be a sportsman or lady that can survive in the outdoors! Really food does not live on groceries store shelves, its an outdoor thing and had to be harvested animals, plants or under water living things?
Well put at the rate things are going ya might need the skills.
Sep 27, 2019 08:51:10 #
I see nothing immoral about fishing. When our creator made us and everything else, we were told to use the resources for our livelihood.
Sep 27, 2019 08:56:43 #
Sep 27, 2019 10:01:30 #
FS Digest wrote:
Hi there! As a backdrop to my question i want to c... (show quote)
Sport fishing is not "obviously immoral" anymore than swatting flies, killing flu virus or harvesting potatoes. If we can justify causing the deaths of any living thing than it's a snap to justify catching and releasing fish: it gives us pleasure. Maybe pleasure is immoral where you come from, but not in my world. If you don't like it, don't do it. It's really that simple.
Sep 27, 2019 10:03:37 #
Sep 27, 2019 11:26:05 #
FS Digest wrote:
Honestly, a really good question. I pinch my barbs, and C&R everything, but that's really just a cop out to your real question.
I've thought about that too, don't really have a good answer.
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by Dex_Maddock
I've thought about that too, don't really have a good answer.
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by Dex_Maddock
An answer might be to only fish for food fish. I live on the San Francisco Bay. Within the bay, we have halibut, strippers, perch, etc. Outside on the ocean we have salmon, halibut, ling cod, rock fish, and more. I now basically fish for fish I can eat, especially salmon, which are very strong fighting fish. We also have lots of sturgeon here, but I don’t eat them, so I don’t fish for them anymore. I used to flyfish, but because it’s all catch and release, I don’t do it much anymore. One thing perhaps you might consider is that we humans are animals too, predators, and out predictor instincts are strong. Finding a way to deal with our animal nature might be perplexing, but in my opinion, it is wise. I’m a biology teacher, and when I teach the food web, I always realize that it is a cycle of violence. That doesn’t absolve us of being civilized, but it certainly complicated it.
Sep 27, 2019 11:28:12 #
Sep 27, 2019 12:08:21 #
I only fish with artificial lures, never bait. The odds that a fish will get hooked other than around its mouth are very low. Bait on the other hand, fish almost always swallow it therefore getting the hook caught in its throat, gut, or gills resulting in almost certain death. 🏄🏼♂️🎣
Sep 27, 2019 12:41:43 #
Nothing 'obviously immoral' about it. I don't buy your build up to the question at all. I think your some liberal moralizer pontificating about how 'fish feel'.
Sep 27, 2019 12:47:20 #
Ya, you don’t want to hurt the bass’s feelings!!! Tell that to the innocent frog just minding its own business... hoping from lily pad to lily pad... and out of nowhere... smash! Blam! Gulp! Poor frog! And the insects go wild!!!🏄🏼♂️🎣
Sep 27, 2019 12:51:25 #
Saw a clip of a coyote chasing after a little girl in her front yard on the news.
More cities spreading out taking their domain away.
Still a bad deal though.
More cities spreading out taking their domain away.
Still a bad deal though.
Sep 27, 2019 12:56:29 #
EasternOZ wrote:
And being in nature GOD made us the fish all of it I enjoy and am thankful for his work and the sacrifice of his son.
And being in nature GOD made us the fish all of it I enjoy and am thankful for his work and the sacrifice of his son.
Well said, OZ
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