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Mar 10, 2021 23:52:25   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
Ben Bragg wrote:
I’ve been known to lay down on the front deck to stretch the back.
Windy days beat me to death and I don’t do the cold too well anymore.
Sux getting old.


Not old, experienced.

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Mar 11, 2021 07:18:19   #
Dcrutch8591 Loc: Illinois
 
I think it could be a bad thing if Miss used. Poachers are criminals not every one a criminal. They make your time on the water more productive. You see the fish in real time but the presentation and choosing the right color and the right bait is still part of the anglers skill set.

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Mar 11, 2021 09:40:42   #
Waterfauowl Loc: SugarLand TX
 
I think it’s a matter of the added degree of the threat. What do I mean by that? Well, what incremental weight would you give to the “tech advantage” versus the 24/7 existence of environmental problems and predators to a given species?
If the individual who chooses to use a tech tool would simply bend hook barbs when on a bonus spot, this could normalize the threat a bit. However, he or she could be far more proactive by supporting the cause of protecting our environment.

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Mar 11, 2021 13:37:23   #
Iafierman
 
I as an old guy, I have always practiced catch and release. Believed in it when I was younger also. Only keep enough to eat. When hunting eat what you kill.

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Mar 11, 2021 13:54:23   #
captjim Loc: Antioch Ca
 
Electronics have become a way of life for many fisherman. I feel the less fishing you do the more electronics can help. If you only fish a few times a year a reasonable priced fish finder can really help by saving you time. Are they essential? Not really. One of the best producing guides in the S.F. bay/delta never used more than a old flasher type depth finder. On my charter boat I had a good Garmin fish finder, not the most expensive, but adequate for the job. I found early on in my 40 years of fishing I relied on the fish finder much more than I do today. I know where I want to go and usually use the GPS, depth finder to put me on my spot.
These modern fish finders have become very complicated. When Lowrance came out with their multiple transducer finders, they had to offer a 2 day course on how to use them. For your average non pro, fisherman any depth finder over $500 is over kill. Leave the $5,000 units to the bass tournament professionals.
Nothing beats experience. I saw an ad once that says it all. "Remember when the fish finder was called Grandpa?"

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Mar 11, 2021 14:17:05   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
captjim wrote:
Electronics have become a way of life for many fisherman. I feel the less fishing you do the more electronics can help. If you only fish a few times a year a reasonable priced fish finder can really help by saving you time. Are they essential? Not really. One of the best producing guides in the S.F. bay/delta never used more than a old flasher type depth finder. On my charter boat I had a good Garmin fish finder, not the most expensive, but adequate for the job. I found early on in my 40 years of fishing I relied on the fish finder much more than I do today. I know where I want to go and usually use the GPS, depth finder to put me on my spot.
These modern fish finders have become very complicated. When Lowrance came out with their multiple transducer finders, they had to offer a 2 day course on how to use them. For your average non pro, fisherman any depth finder over $500 is over kill. Leave the $5,000 units to the bass tournament professionals.
Nothing beats experience. I saw an ad once that says it all. "Remember when the fish finder was called Grandpa?"
Electronics have become a way of life for many fis... (show quote)


Grampa, that's me. I do like to use my fish finder to let me know my depth and water temp. The depth is VERY important when trollin the river and when driftin the Napa for stripers. The water is usually so muddy that you don't know if you are in 15 feet of water or 2 feet of water. I do know the rivers pretty well but I still like to know for SURE what the depth is.

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Mar 11, 2021 18:43:31   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
I disagree. Electronics are not killing the sport or hurting the fisheries. Look at Clear Lake, CA. The pressure on this lake is constant. Many weekends have multiple tournaments. Click on the link below and look at this year's first big tournament. 96 boats. A 15lb weigh was good for 64th place. Four weigh ins over 30lbs! Winning weight, 33.79lbs! 1 1/4 lbs shy of a 7 pound average. Big fish, 11.86lbs! Read the stats and it will blow you away. I don't see any evidence of electronics ruining anything here, that's for sure.

https://www.westernbass.com/forum/limits-break-pounds-win-clear-lake-bbt-results-march-t131955.html?fbclid=IwAR3L9Ban9n0XbCLGJWCNrcAtMC8REHI4eEVKvlktvJ-f4nbheGdd7xYmuhU

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Mar 11, 2021 18:47:54   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
NoCal Steve wrote:
I disagree. Electronics are not killing the sport or hurting the fisheries. Look at Clear Lake, CA. The pressure on this lake is constant. Many weekends have multiple tournaments. Click on the link below and look at this year's first big tournament. 96 boats. A 15lb weigh was good for 64th place. Four weigh ins over 30lbs! Winning weight, 33.79lbs! 1 1/4 lbs shy of a 7 pound average. Big fish, 11.86lbs! Read the stats and it will blow you away. I don't see any evidence of electronics ruining anything here, that's for sure.

https://www.westernbass.com/forum/limits-break-pounds-win-clear-lake-bbt-results-march-t131955.html?fbclid=IwAR3L9Ban9n0XbCLGJWCNrcAtMC8REHI4eEVKvlktvJ-f4nbheGdd7xYmuhU
I disagree. Electronics are not killing the sport... (show quote)


That's just proof that proper catch and release doesn't harm the fish population at all.

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Mar 11, 2021 21:26:45   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
saw1 wrote:
Papacon 357. Are you the same one that tried that same approach with me last summer about us catchin lots of stripers. If so, KNOCK IT OFF ! You have NO clue what you're talikn about.
Catchin 122 fish in one day and releasing 122 fish doesn't hurt the fish population anymore than you sittin on your @$$ on your couch bitchin about us catchin fish and releasing them.
What's your problem anyway?
If you have a problem with our sport then stay the #e!! off our FISHIN site and go somewhere else to stir up trouble.
I'm surprised they even allow you to live in Texas to begin with. When I lived there I never knew anybody like you that lived there then. Bet you don't confront people face to face there in Texas about this.
And most of the people I know now it would not be advisable for you to try it face to face here either.
Papacon 357. Are you the same one that tried that ... (show quote)

I got your back Saw...🐟

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Mar 11, 2021 21:31:14   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
saw1 wrote:
My fish finder/depth finder is mainly used to tell me the water temp and the depth. It's not very fancy. I'm not so sure the blips it shows as fish ARE actually fish. IDK what they are but it doesn't really matter. I mainly just want to know the depth and maybe if some structure is down there, like trees. I fish a lot in deeper lakes where we fish down to 50 or so feet deep for bass sometimes. Usually try to stay in 20 to 30 feet most of the time unless we're fishin up in the shallows then we don't need the depth finder.
My fish finder/depth finder is mainly used to tell... (show quote)

I think I’ve got the same ff/df you’ve got Saw...anything more than that and I wouldn’t be able to figure it out anyway...and the fish are still smarter than me...😜🤣😂🐟on

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Mar 11, 2021 21:42:27   #
saw1 Loc: nor cal Windsor
 
DozerDave wrote:
I think I’ve got the same ff/df you’ve got Saw...anything more than that and I wouldn’t be able to figure it out anyway...and the fish are still smarter than me...😜🤣😂🐟on


Mine supposedly shows fish, but we rarely catch fish when it is showin a lot of fish down there. It's better when we're trollin along and it's NOT showin fish and then maybe a big fish blip shows up. That's when I might believe that's it's really a fish. We have better luck when the graph shows like that.

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Mar 11, 2021 22:12:42   #
jemstone90
 
I have a 1978 Hummingbird Depth/Fish finder and a Cfish underwater camera. Neither are very high tech but it sure is fun to watch the fish swim past my camera. I saw literally thousands of fish in the 3 times I went out this winter and only caught a dozen or so sunfish. Without the under water camera I wouldn't waste my time going out on the ice. It's the view that makes it worth while.







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Mar 11, 2021 22:13:25   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
saw1 wrote:
Mine supposedly shows fish, but we rarely catch fish when it is showin a lot of fish down there. It's better when we're trollin along and it's NOT showin fish and then maybe a big fish blip shows up. That's when I might believe that's it's really a fish. We have better luck when the graph shows like that.


Same here... I can troll through a school that covers the whole 7” screen and don’t even get a bump...go figure...🤷‍♂️🐟on

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Mar 11, 2021 22:18:08   #
DozerDave Loc: Port Orchard Wa.
 
My take on this subject is...let’s go fishing. I won’t criticize the way you fish... but don’t criticize the way I fish and we’ll get along just fine...🐟on

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Mar 11, 2021 22:37:37   #
captjim Loc: Antioch Ca
 
DozerDave wrote:
Same here... I can troll through a school that covers the whole 7” screen and don’t even get a bump...go figure...🤷‍♂️🐟on


On of the things I have found in the delta is that a school of carp can look just like a school of striped bass. Been fooled by this before. Another thing to keep in mind when trolling. Most stripers are holding in less than 15' of water. With a conventional, single transducer fish finder in 15' of water you are looking at a circle on the bottom that is 5' in diameter. Not even the width of most boats. That school of fish you are seeing could be just a few that happened to be in that circle, or could extend out past the boat, you really do not know until you make repeated passes over the same area.
A very common practice, especially rookies with their first fish finder, is to spend far to much time looking with the fish finder for the perfect scenario on the screen. Too much time "looking" and not enough time with lines in the water can end up with a visit from Pepe. I usually do not spend more than 15-20 minutes checking out a spot with the fish finder. If I have caught fish in the spot before, have similar conditions this time it is still worth the time regardless of fish on the screen or not.

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