I think it could be a bad thing if Miss used. Poachers are criminals not every one a criminal. They make your time on the water more productive. You see the fish in real time but the presentation and choosing the right color and the right bait is still part of the anglers skill set.
I think it’s a matter of the added degree of the threat. What do I mean by that? Well, what incremental weight would you give to the “tech advantage” versus the 24/7 existence of environmental problems and predators to a given species?
If the individual who chooses to use a tech tool would simply bend hook barbs when on a bonus spot, this could normalize the threat a bit. However, he or she could be far more proactive by supporting the cause of protecting our environment.
I as an old guy, I have always practiced catch and release. Believed in it when I was younger also. Only keep enough to eat. When hunting eat what you kill.
Electronics have become a way of life for many fisherman. I feel the less fishing you do the more electronics can help. If you only fish a few times a year a reasonable priced fish finder can really help by saving you time. Are they essential? Not really. One of the best producing guides in the S.F. bay/delta never used more than a old flasher type depth finder. On my charter boat I had a good Garmin fish finder, not the most expensive, but adequate for the job. I found early on in my 40 years of fishing I relied on the fish finder much more than I do today. I know where I want to go and usually use the GPS, depth finder to put me on my spot.
These modern fish finders have become very complicated. When Lowrance came out with their multiple transducer finders, they had to offer a 2 day course on how to use them. For your average non pro, fisherman any depth finder over $500 is over kill. Leave the $5,000 units to the bass tournament professionals.
Nothing beats experience. I saw an ad once that says it all. "Remember when the fish finder was called Grandpa?"
saw1
Loc: nor cal Windsor
captjim wrote:
Electronics have become a way of life for many fisherman. I feel the less fishing you do the more electronics can help. If you only fish a few times a year a reasonable priced fish finder can really help by saving you time. Are they essential? Not really. One of the best producing guides in the S.F. bay/delta never used more than a old flasher type depth finder. On my charter boat I had a good Garmin fish finder, not the most expensive, but adequate for the job. I found early on in my 40 years of fishing I relied on the fish finder much more than I do today. I know where I want to go and usually use the GPS, depth finder to put me on my spot.
These modern fish finders have become very complicated. When Lowrance came out with their multiple transducer finders, they had to offer a 2 day course on how to use them. For your average non pro, fisherman any depth finder over $500 is over kill. Leave the $5,000 units to the bass tournament professionals.
Nothing beats experience. I saw an ad once that says it all. "Remember when the fish finder was called Grandpa?"
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Grampa, that's me. I do like to use my fish finder to let me know my depth and water temp. The depth is VERY important when trollin the river and when driftin the Napa for stripers. The water is usually so muddy that you don't know if you are in 15 feet of water or 2 feet of water. I do know the rivers pretty well but I still like to know for SURE what the depth is.
saw1
Loc: nor cal Windsor
NoCal Steve wrote:
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That's just proof that proper catch and release doesn't harm the fish population at all.
saw1 wrote:
My fish finder/depth finder is mainly used to tell me the water temp and the depth. It's not very fancy. I'm not so sure the blips it shows as fish ARE actually fish. IDK what they are but it doesn't really matter. I mainly just want to know the depth and maybe if some structure is down there, like trees. I fish a lot in deeper lakes where we fish down to 50 or so feet deep for bass sometimes. Usually try to stay in 20 to 30 feet most of the time unless we're fishin up in the shallows then we don't need the depth finder.
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I think I’ve got the same ff/df you’ve got Saw...anything more than that and I wouldn’t be able to figure it out anyway...and the fish are still smarter than me...😜🤣😂🐟on
saw1
Loc: nor cal Windsor
DozerDave wrote:
I think I’ve got the same ff/df you’ve got Saw...anything more than that and I wouldn’t be able to figure it out anyway...and the fish are still smarter than me...😜🤣😂🐟on
Mine supposedly shows fish, but we rarely catch fish when it is showin a lot of fish down there. It's better when we're trollin along and it's NOT showin fish and then maybe a big fish blip shows up. That's when I might believe that's it's really a fish. We have better luck when the graph shows like that.
I have a 1978 Hummingbird Depth/Fish finder and a Cfish underwater camera. Neither are very high tech but it sure is fun to watch the fish swim past my camera. I saw literally thousands of fish in the 3 times I went out this winter and only caught a dozen or so sunfish. Without the under water camera I wouldn't waste my time going out on the ice. It's the view that makes it worth while.
saw1 wrote:
Mine supposedly shows fish, but we rarely catch fish when it is showin a lot of fish down there. It's better when we're trollin along and it's NOT showin fish and then maybe a big fish blip shows up. That's when I might believe that's it's really a fish. We have better luck when the graph shows like that.
Same here... I can troll through a school that covers the whole 7” screen and don’t even get a bump...go figure...🤷♂️🐟on
My take on this subject is...let’s go fishing. I won’t criticize the way you fish... but don’t criticize the way I fish and we’ll get along just fine...🐟on
DozerDave wrote:
Same here... I can troll through a school that covers the whole 7” screen and don’t even get a bump...go figure...🤷♂️🐟on
On of the things I have found in the delta is that a school of carp can look just like a school of striped bass. Been fooled by this before. Another thing to keep in mind when trolling. Most stripers are holding in less than 15' of water. With a conventional, single transducer fish finder in 15' of water you are looking at a circle on the bottom that is 5' in diameter. Not even the width of most boats. That school of fish you are seeing could be just a few that happened to be in that circle, or could extend out past the boat, you really do not know until you make repeated passes over the same area.
A very common practice, especially rookies with their first fish finder, is to spend far to much time looking with the fish finder for the perfect scenario on the screen. Too much time "looking" and not enough time with lines in the water can end up with a visit from Pepe. I usually do not spend more than 15-20 minutes checking out a spot with the fish finder. If I have caught fish in the spot before, have similar conditions this time it is still worth the time regardless of fish on the screen or not.
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