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Should One Take the Covid-19 Vaccine When it Becomes Available?
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Dec 15, 2020 20:06:15   #
Woodsman Loc: Brainerd Mn
 
I am with you RJ I will get it as soon as I can when it’s available

We went out today seen a few Garr but did not connect. Will try again in February when the water worms some more it is 62 deg today at the dam.
Thanks again

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Dec 15, 2020 20:34:27   #
flyguy Loc: Lake Onalaska, Sunfish Capitol of the World!
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
Recently on Stages, I read a lot of joking and questioning about whether to take the injection of the Covid-19 vaccine when it becomes widely available. All joking aside, in my humble opinion everyone should take it if they are not prevented from doing so because of their being exempt due to some specified allergic reaction. Why am I qualified to state my opinion?

Well, not to brag or boast, but I expect I have more pharmaceutical experience that anyone else on The Stages. I spent 16 years with Lederle Laboratories, a division of American Cyanamid Company. We made all sorts of immunizations: Small pox, mumps, Typhoid, Polio, Inluenza, Gamma Globulin, and lots of stuff I can’t even spell, as well as all the Venereal Disease testing products during and after WWII. I was privileged not only to be a salesman for years but was a staff member of the sales training department and led medical doctors and licensed pharmacists on tours of the entire plant, depending upon what they would like to see and learn about.

Did you know that in our separate building dedicated to influenza vaccine production, the workers in that facility never had to take a flu shot? The reason was the ambient air held enough of the virus, they were auto inoculated by simply breathing the air!

If you were to tour of any of Pfizer’s manufacturing plants today, you would probably be surprised at all the precautions taken to ensure purity and safety that is taken to insure pure, safe, and effective products are delivered. Also, the penalties and costs associated when any defect even thought to have happened by the many lawyers who are hungry for any possible liability case.

Our company along with the entire corporation was sold to Home Products Corp, which also owned Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, and then Home Products Corp. was sold in its entirety to Pfizer Pharmaceuticals. I competed against Pfizer for those 16 years and they were and still are a formidable firm to compete against!

I and my wife will take the immunizations as soon as we can have them. We, being in our 80’s is much like the Stages membership. We cannot take any chance of contracting this deadly virus! Now, there may be some residual side effects, like some aches and pains for a day or two, but those are a small price to pay and prevent the virus and possible death.

If Pfizer makes it and the Food and Drug Administration approves it, I will accept it and so should you!!!!We are all too old to take the chance. Just Sayin...RJS
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Thanks, RJS.

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Dec 15, 2020 21:02:12   #
WALI4VR Loc: Colfax Wi
 
Is this flu going to change like every other flu has so each year you need another different shot than last year? Does anyone know what side effects MAY BE involved with this vaccine?

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Dec 15, 2020 21:15:58   #
Huntm22 Loc: Northern Utah. - West Haven
 
WALI4VR wrote:
Is this flu going to change like every other flu has so each year you need another different shot than last year? Does anyone know what side effects MAY BE involved with this vaccine?


Don’t think anyone has the magic wand and can say for sure. Has any doctor been right 100% of the time?? Is anything in life a 100% guarantee?? Other than you are going to die. Look up the testing that Pfizer did on it and make your decision.

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Dec 15, 2020 21:26:36   #
Robert Hogaboam Loc: Los Angeles Ca
 
Just contacted the VA to get it ASAP. Almost 70 and have diabetes related to Agent Orange. Lived this long and don’t want to go down with COVID. Cold Corona but not the 19. Great day fishing in So Cal surf. 70 degrees. Stay save guys and get your line wet !!

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Dec 15, 2020 22:10:16   #
BadFisherman Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Robert Hogaboam wrote:
Just contacted the VA to get it ASAP. Almost 70 and have diabetes related to Agent Orange. Lived this long and don’t want to go down with COVID. Cold Corona but not the 19. Great day fishing in So Cal surf. 70 degrees. Stay save guys and get your line wet !!

Same situation with me, Robert, 'cept I'm almost 72. The VA told me that our getting the vaccine is still a bit into the future. I was also told that they would send out the paperwork notification when the time comes.

Hang in there, Brother.

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Dec 15, 2020 22:27:42   #
Mauwehu Loc: Norwalk Ct
 
Asente you’re in the thick of it in New York. No goods and services, police that are told to stand down. I’m 45 miles east in Connecticut. The real estate market is thriving here with all of the people leaving New York.

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Dec 15, 2020 23:08:46   #
Egghead
 
I'm going to take it. But not until most of the people here get it first. I'm not around alot if people, and take precautions when I am. Would rather get the older people first then the little kids. The old deserve to grow older, the kids deserve a chance at life. Don't nt really care what happens to me. I'm good.

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Dec 15, 2020 23:30:02   #
Robert J Samples Loc: Round Rock, Texas
 
Egghead: You have every right to live as long as you possible can as any "snot nosed kid" who doesen't care, or contribute anything to his family or society. You need to watch the movie Soylent Green. It's frightening. The old people turn themselve in to die peacefully, and be turned into food for the young and this food was soylent green! You need to think more highly of yourself. Just Sayin...RJS

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Dec 15, 2020 23:47:47   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Mauwehu wrote:
Right on Robert! The only short cut taken was around the bureaucracy of the federal swamp in Washington. What we need to navigate through Covid is wisdom not fear. The government lacks wisdom and instills fear. Allows Walmart to open but sees small business as non essential. Rest assured the owners and workers of small businesses see their business as very essential. Government wants to replace laws and law enforcement with feelings. Without enforcement there are no laws. Laws protect us—feelings are fickle and change like the weather. One day I’m in and the next day someone feels 70 year old men with beards should go.....and there’s no law to protect me..... Sorry about the rabbit trail.
To summarize yes I’m taking the vaccine because my chances are better vaccinated than not.
Right on Robert! The only short cut taken was arou... (show quote)


Are you sure about that?

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Dec 15, 2020 23:51:29   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
WALI4VR wrote:
Is this flu going to change like every other flu has so each year you need another different shot than last year? Does anyone know what side effects MAY BE involved with this vaccine?


It seems not many care what the side effects might be. The government says do it so they’re doing it.

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Dec 15, 2020 23:57:14   #
Catfish hunter Loc: Riggins idaho (Paradise)
 
Robert J Samples wrote:
I don't care what Bill Gates did or didn't do. Pfizer and FDA are adequate guarantors of the safety of the vaccine. Just Sayin...RJS


That’s my point Robert. Things are influenced much differently now than when you were involved. Times have changed and there are devils in the punch bowl. How can they be “adequate guarantors” of a vaccine that hasn’t been tested on living things? Just wondering.

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Dec 16, 2020 00:04:35   #
Fishandrods Loc: Alpine Ca foothills of San Diego
 
Catfish hunter wrote:
That’s my point Robert. Things are influenced much differently now than when you were involved. Times have changed and there are devils in the punch bowl. How can they be “adequate guarantors” of a vaccine that hasn’t been tested on living things? Just wondering.


You're misinformed!! Google healthline.com Pfizer vaccine. They tested 43,000 humans with thier vaccine and it was 95% effective.

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Dec 16, 2020 01:00:49   #
Fishandrods Loc: Alpine Ca foothills of San Diego
 
Fishandrods wrote:
You're misinformed!! Google healthline.com Pfizer vaccine. They tested 43,000 humans with thier vaccine and it was 95% effective.


I'm watching a taped show tonight called The Shot the race for a vaccine, very informative about when all this crap started and what that has been done to hopefully get rid of this virus but we all have to believe that these scientists and doctors are doing the right things to help us get back to a normal life. But we'll all need to follow thier advice and wear the masks if we can, and socially distance from people, only go out if it's totally nesessary. And it sounds like we won't be out of the woods until 2022, I sure hope they're wrong about that. At least us fisher people can still fish. Here in California because of Gov Nuisence we have the most restrictions. Our first shutdown earlier in the pandemic we couldn't even fish the lakes and the Bay's In San Diego, but this time we're OK. Back in 1962 at a Chevy dealership I worked at they made all employees get a flu shot even if you didn't want it. I had never had one even if they ever had them back then and I was sick for 2 days, we got the shot on Friday so there went my weekend and at 18 that sucked. And all the flu's we've had since then I got the shot without even a single reaction at all and caught the flu.I hope these 2 shots work and if there is any small reaction it's a whole lot better than possibly dying, I'm not ready for that yet, I'm a young almost 77 year old kid that doesn't want to grow up!!!

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Dec 16, 2020 06:36:31   #
rapala54 Loc: Nappanee,IN.
 
Take it your family loves you.

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