Young girl bags big buck !
Nov 26, 2020 19:13:00 #
RuffplayOR57
Loc: Klamath Falls, OR
FixorFish wrote:
Not being a hunter, nor a gun owner, I have to ask... (show quote)
Yes Sir it is Totally legal in Oregon. Shotgunning just requires a bit closer shots than with a Rifle. You can use slugs and buck shot in Oregon. The projectile in a shotgun travels slower than a rifle so would not damage as much meat as you might think. The max range I would believe would be approximately a100 yds with a slug and less with buckshot.
Nov 26, 2020 19:28:41 #
Big A wrote:
Sorry ! Accidental send !
Now, I'M confused ! I can understand allowing black
powder firearms in a 'shotgun
only' state, but some magnum handgun rounds have equal
range (or more) as many deer
rifle calibers, so why would they
be allowed in place of a rifle ?
A missed shot (more likely with
a hangun vs. a 'long' gun) would
travel just as far and be as much of a hazard, would it not ?
Now, I'M confused ! I can understand allowing black
powder firearms in a 'shotgun
only' state, but some magnum handgun rounds have equal
range (or more) as many deer
rifle calibers, so why would they
be allowed in place of a rifle ?
A missed shot (more likely with
a hangun vs. a 'long' gun) would
travel just as far and be as much of a hazard, would it not ?
My sentiments exactly. Buckshot is not legal, but there are far too many cripples left by bird hunters that shoot slugs the same way. Point and shoot. Rifles demand better more accurate aim and in MHO fewer misses and fewer maimed deer. That's why my shotgun is set up like a rifle. Best day was 5 shots, 4 deer (party hunting allows that) all running shots, extra shot was a kill shot on one I hit a bit high on.
Nov 26, 2020 19:37:32 #
Addendum to my last response:
Again, locality weighs heavily on what may or may not be
allowed ! In the northeast, bear and deer season often overlap
in some states; if I'm using buckshot while hunting deer in heavy cover and run into a black bear, I'm just hoping that I can switch from buckshot to slugs
in time to cover my butt !
Not too long ago, a deer hunter was approaching one of his deer stands just before dawn and was just about to climb up the tree to settle himself in, when he heard scraping and scratching noises overhead ! When he looked up to find the source of the noise, he discovered a black bear that he estimated at 300/350 lbs. had
firmly ensconced itself in his tree
stand ! Had the bear noticed
him, I'm pretty sure he would
have preferred to have his
shotgun loaded with slugs
rather than buckshot, if not a
rifle or magnum pistol instead !
He simply chose to walk quietly away and hunt elsewhere on that particular day !
Again, locality weighs heavily on what may or may not be
allowed ! In the northeast, bear and deer season often overlap
in some states; if I'm using buckshot while hunting deer in heavy cover and run into a black bear, I'm just hoping that I can switch from buckshot to slugs
in time to cover my butt !
Not too long ago, a deer hunter was approaching one of his deer stands just before dawn and was just about to climb up the tree to settle himself in, when he heard scraping and scratching noises overhead ! When he looked up to find the source of the noise, he discovered a black bear that he estimated at 300/350 lbs. had
firmly ensconced itself in his tree
stand ! Had the bear noticed
him, I'm pretty sure he would
have preferred to have his
shotgun loaded with slugs
rather than buckshot, if not a
rifle or magnum pistol instead !
He simply chose to walk quietly away and hunt elsewhere on that particular day !
Nov 26, 2020 19:47:35 #
New Jersey has always been shotgun only for deer hunting. Had to use OO or O buckshot.
Nov 26, 2020 19:50:52 #
The reason I sighted my 12gage in @50yds is all state hunting land is pretty dense forest.I used only an Aimpoint red dot 2x magnification, not a scope.You're lucky if you can see them at 50yds. Sabot slugs have an effective range of 200yds.
The centerfire rules are kind of weird, private land only, 10 acre MINIMUM (seems kinda small to me), .243 minimum caliber, anything smaller is not deadly enough (not even the EVIL .223?).
Of course we have Black Powder seasons ,and bow seasons also.
This one's for Fixorfish :Wilhelm Brenneke invented slugs for shotguns.................in 1898!!! Where you been?
The centerfire rules are kind of weird, private land only, 10 acre MINIMUM (seems kinda small to me), .243 minimum caliber, anything smaller is not deadly enough (not even the EVIL .223?).
Of course we have Black Powder seasons ,and bow seasons also.
This one's for Fixorfish :Wilhelm Brenneke invented slugs for shotguns.................in 1898!!! Where you been?
Nov 26, 2020 20:20:12 #
Fredfish wrote:
The reason I sighted my 12gage in @50yds is all st... (show quote)
My scope is a red dot with no magnification. Had a 4X on it, and one time I couldn't find an injured buck behind a multiflora rose bush at 10 yards. Next day that scope came off the gun!
Nov 27, 2020 09:01:23 #
Big dog
Loc: Bayshore, Long Island, New York
Big A wrote:
This is an article I found that br I think will b... (show quote)
WOW !! What else can I say.!!
Nov 27, 2020 09:51:47 #
Nov 27, 2020 16:01:08 #
DonaldRotter80
Loc: St, Cloud, Minnesota
I live in Central Minnesota. Buckshot has not been allowed here since 1960 when I started hunting or before I believe. There are many zones in Minnesota but in Shotgun only zones only slugs are allowed and no rifles OR handguns are allowed because of the distance and danger. We have had a number of shooting accidents over the years, mostly with rifles. The zones in populated area are shotguns and slugs only but many zones are small so rifles could be legal a few miles away. The shotgun slugs are LETHAL but are short range only. Two hundred yards is possible with specialized equipment but is not the normal shots taken. During the rifle zone season some will hunt with handguns, legally but again they are usually not long range effective like a rifle, due to problems with accuracy at long range. So no handguns can be used in a shotgun only zone, only a rifle zone. Black powder rifles are allowed in both shotgun and rifle zones because they are also considered short range weapons. Don.
Nov 27, 2020 19:43:28 #
Video Bob
Loc: Norfolk, Va
Curious. How do they take the measurements in inches. I thought they went by how many points the deer had
Nov 27, 2020 20:00:48 #
DonaldRotter80
Loc: St, Cloud, Minnesota
Video Bob. There is a mathematical process which is used to gain the total points. It is complicated and prone to differences between those doing the measuring. The outside length of each beam is measured carefully with a tape, following the curves. Each tine on one side is measured and recorded, then the other side. The inside width of the antlers at the widest point is measured also. Each point one inch or longer is measured. There are also categories for typical and non typical and they do not compete against each other. Non typical scores are higher because of the additional points, spread and drop times. A ten pointer would obviously score higher than an eight pointer and may have a wider spread. It is confusing to watch the process but as I said there are differences between the scorers interpretations. All antlers must be allowed to dry a specified period of time before being scored. Google this process on the internet and you will find a number of articles and videos on this process. Don.
Nov 27, 2020 20:01:36 #
Video Bob wrote:
Curious. How do they take the measurements in inches. I thought they went by how many points the deer had
Always wondered about that; thought it was just regional
differences! Now I think it has more to do with how they take
measurements for trophy deer/
elk, etc. for the Boone and Crockett club ! If anyone knows for sure, please clarify !
Nov 27, 2020 20:06:17 #
DonaldRotter80 wrote:
Video Bob. There is a mathematical process which i... (show quote)
Thanks, Don ! I had just made
a request for some clarification, but your post came up just
ahead of mine !
Nov 27, 2020 20:17:19 #
DonaldRotter80
Loc: St, Cloud, Minnesota
Bug A and Video Bob. The scoring for record for firearms is the Boone and Crocket and for Archery is Pope and Young. Any one can have any deer measured but a certain score is necessary to be a candidate for the record book. A lower score is required for archery harvest than firearms harvest. Again, simply google about how to score the antlers and many videos will readily be available. The scoring process is for many other animals also, elk, sheep, goats, etc. When it comes to bears the skulls are measured, again after a required time of drying. All species can be green scored to get some idea but for accuracy and records they must be dried first. Official scorers via for accuracy and recognition. Don.
Nov 27, 2020 21:21:18 #
GlsJr40
Loc: Dallas, Tx.
Congratulations, Natalie. That's one fine Buck. You must be quite a sportswoman! Hope you get a chance to improve on this one, but one this fine will be hard to beat! Have patience and work hard and bust another big 'un.!!!
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