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Aug 2, 2020 21:58:12   #
JimCT Loc: Connecticut
 
Fine in most places, but they are also mighty fine in my frying pan! Better meal than the LMB's you might catch .. at least IMHO

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Aug 2, 2020 22:29:52   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
JimCT wrote:
Fine in most places, but they are also mighty fine in my frying pan! Better meal than the LMB's you might catch .. at least IMHO


Absolutely Jim. One of the best tasting fresh water fish you can catch and eat. Wouldn't it be nice if they got a little bigger and you could get a couple of nice fillets off of them? Of course, then it wouldn't be safe to go in the water.

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Aug 2, 2020 23:42:56   #
fishrmans Loc: Waushara Cnty Wisconsin and Port Charlotte Fl
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
You are correct Steve. They do. From Wikipedia:

The Sacramento perch (Archoplites interruptus) is an endangered sunfish (family Centrarchidae) native to the Sacramento–San Joaquin River Delta, Pajaro, and Salinas River areas in California, but widely introduced throughout the western United States.

Call it what you want, it's a sunfish, not a perch. And it's endangered. It is not "indigenous throughout California".

As I said, I don't believe there any "perch" in California. And, as I said, you native Californians like to call anything that isn't a bass, a perch.

Generally wrong, seldom in doubt. That's me.
You are correct Steve. They do. From Wikipedia:... (show quote)


DescriptionThe warmouth, is a freshwater fish of the sunfish family that is found throughout the eastern United States. Other local names include molly, redeye, goggle-eye, red-eyed bream, and strawberry perch. Wikipedia
Scientific name: Lepomis gulosus
Higher classification: Common Sunfishes
Family: Centrarchidae
Conservation status: Least Concern (Population stable) Encyclopedia of Life
Phylum: Chordata

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Aug 2, 2020 23:47:55   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
and your point is?

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Aug 3, 2020 04:11:38   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
I have no idea how big they get Saw. The few I've actually caught at Lake Almanor were small (OMG! Does that mean Wikipedia is wrong! And the Delta, well it doesn't get water from throughout CA does it? And all those Fish and Game survey's listing the species in areas not listed in Wikipedia? It's a communist plot to undermine Spirit's reference material. Either that or he called out CA bass fisherman and someone served him a nice sized piece of crow pie! Lol)
I live in Yube City right now Saw, but I'm looking for a place where I can choose between Clear Lake, Berryessa and the Delta when I go fishing. Love going after those Sacramento Perch in the delta. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go look up the word indigenous. I have no idea what it means. I copied it from a 2013 Fish and Game survey from another lake. Thank God for Wikipedia cause now I know these survey's are all a fake!

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Aug 3, 2020 05:20:07   #
fishrmans Loc: Waushara Cnty Wisconsin and Port Charlotte Fl
 
Spiritof27 wrote:
and your point is?


Point is it looks like your indigenous Sacramento perch and the warmouth we catch in Wi are pretty much the same fish.

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Aug 3, 2020 07:20:40   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
I want to believe you fishrman but, what does Wikipedia say? Lol

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Aug 3, 2020 11:35:26   #
hemihappy Loc: pawleys island s.c.
 
Man them liberal states sure have a lot of regulations. Glad I moved.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:04:24   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Fredfish wrote:
Bapabear, so you can't use any shiners of any kind, even native ones from the water you're fishing?


No minnows or fin fish of any type. It makes for creative crappie fishing.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:20:22   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Just a note of interest: I moved to Bellingham Washington for the outstanding fishing it provided 30 years ago. Everything has changes. Puget Sound is now pushing its way to a dead sea. What is still there to catch is either closed or restricted to a few weeks a year. Salmon fishing has become more of a boat ride than a fishing trip. There is still good fresh water fishing on the east side of the mountain, a four hour drive. I find myself going away from the salt water to the fresh water to catch fish bigger than sole. I would truly move if it were not for my wife and grand kids.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:21:25   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
hemihappy wrote:
Man them liberal states sure have a lot of regulations. Glad I moved.


So are we.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:24:45   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Just a note of interest: I moved to Bellingham Washington for the outstanding fishing it provided 30 years ago. Everything has changes. Puget Sound is now pushing its way to a dead sea. What is still there to catch is either closed or restricted to a few weeks a year. Salmon fishing has become more of a boat ride than a fishing trip. There is still good fresh water fishing on the east side of the mountain, a four hour drive. I find myself going away from the salt water to the fresh water to catch fish bigger than sole. I would truly move if it were not for my wife and grand kids. Not only can we not use live bait, but we have little to use them on.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:31:57   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
My brother in law moved to Whibdey Island in the 70's. He says the same thing about Puget Sound. Now a days he goes over to the Penisula and fishes the rivers there. Used to catch more fish than he could eat 5 minutes from his house. Now he has to take a whole weekend just to get a few.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:44:53   #
Spiritof27 Loc: Lincoln, CA
 
NoCal Steve wrote:
I have no idea how big they get Saw. The few I've actually caught at Lake Almanor were small (OMG! Does that mean Wikipedia is wrong! And the Delta, well it doesn't get water from throughout CA does it? And all those Fish and Game survey's listing the species in areas not listed in Wikipedia? It's a communist plot to undermine Spirit's reference material. Either that or he called out CA bass fisherman and someone served him a nice sized piece of crow pie! Lol)
I live in Yube City right now Saw, but I'm looking for a place where I can choose between Clear Lake, Berryessa and the Delta when I go fishing. Love going after those Sacramento Perch in the delta. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go look up the word indigenous. I have no idea what it means. I copied it from a 2013 Fish and Game survey from another lake. Thank God for Wikipedia cause now I know these survey's are all a fake!
I have no idea how big they get Saw. The few I've... (show quote)


Since you like Wiki, how about the U.S. Geological Survey? Here's a link to their article about these little darlings:

https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=374

Please note that it clearly states that they are the only "native centrarchid" west of the Rockies. Care to guess what a centrarchid is? I suggest that if you are not careful, you will do exactly what it says at the bottom of my posts.

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Aug 3, 2020 13:54:12   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
What part of NoCal are you in. I went to High school at Seaside (Monterey area) and college in Sacramento. I also spent a lot of fishing time in Redding. I lived to fish in those locations. Surf, salt and freshwater. I know surf is salt, but seems to be a category of its own on most fishing internet sights, so I just go with it.

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