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May 12, 2020 11:54:39   #
FrenchieQ Loc: Manchester TWP., Ocean County, NJ
 
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May 12, 2020 12:16:14   #
Larry M Loc: North Clairmount, San Diego
 
Looking forward to reading them, even reading old post. Thank you.
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May 12, 2020 12:47:04   #
fisher Loc: whitewater,colorado
 
BadFisherman wrote:
There is no punishment severe enough.

https://militaryveteransofdisqus.org/traveling-vietnam-veterans-memorial-vandalized-with-hammer/

Posted May 11, 2020 Old Jarhead, by Dan Doyle

For years, a copy of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Washington, D.C. has travelled around the country and set up in places where people who might never be able to get to D.C. could visit it and maybe get some healing and closure.

One of those traveling walls was recently given a permanent home in John’s Creek, Georgia. The John’s Creek Veterans Association has been working on the set up of the permanent memorial since last July, and was going to have a Grand Opening celebration on March 28, 2020, but the coronavirus pandemic put the kibosh on that with the social distancing and stay at home requirements that were necessary to help control the spread of this deadly virus.

The Association was shocked recently to find that vandals had keyed about half of the panels of the installation and had taken a hammer to some of the other panels. Such behavior is beyond contempt. No matter the “reason” of self-righteous bravado vandals may give for their actions, the truth is that they are self-centered, insensitive cowards. These actions were done under cover of night. No courage there. One could imagine all kinds of righteous punishments for such actions.

My first reaction to this is to hunt down and teach the idiots a true lesson, from a Vietnam Era Veteran. But the story gets better.

But Mike Mizell of the Johns Creek Veterans Association is a much more centered and thoughtful individual than I am in this case. When asked about his feelings concerning the damage done to the Vietnam Memorial with its over 58,000 names of those who fell there in service to the nation, he responded, directing his comment to the perpetrator’s with, “You didn’t hurt the structure, you hurt people.”

When asked what he would like to see done to whomever did this he simply told the reporter that “he would like whoever did this to join them in cleaning the park and taking in the history it holds.”

Mike Mizell is clearly a man with some real moral character.

My respect for Mike Mizell knows no ends. I could never be as forgiving, or as calm as he appears to be here. To me, this is simply unimaginable.

It is a fact that when bad things happen to good people, the responses they give for their hurt reveals either the quality of their character or the lack thereof. Mike Mizell and the John’s Creek Veterans Association have every right to be angry about what has happened to this treasured memorial and how it effects Vietnam Veterans and their families, but Mizell’s response clearly shows that he and his fellow John’s Creek veterans are made of far superior stuff than that of those who did this to that honored memorial.

It is the action of our better angels not just to punish those who do wrong, but to invite and to challenge the wrong doer to turn away from their selfish actions, to pay the necessary recompense for their actions, and to learn how to grow into their better selves. Mizell’s comment is rooted in that kind of “better angels” kind of thinking.

The Veterans Site sends its support and its thanks to the John’s Creek Veterans Association and the Vietnam veterans of Georgia. We hope that the repairs to the John’s Creek Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall can be done quickly and that you will be able to have your Grand Opening sometime soon. We say, “Welcome Home” to all the Vietnam Veterans and promise to never forget all our brothers and sisters who gave their last full measure in Vietnam and whose names are inscribed on that wall.

Yes, I am livid at the wastes of oxygen that did this desecration...especially as we approach Memorial Day.

https://blog.theveteranssite.greatergood.com/veterans-memorial-vandalized/?utm_source=vet-vetfan&utm_medium=social-fb&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=veterans-memorial-vandalized&utm_term=8215789&fbclid=IwAR3Izij9xOGZaWyBf-zDfxUYfHQFC8Myr3ey36cExy9Ec227tJtNSKaiABo
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I'd like to introduce them to some Vietnam vets; help them "see the light".
Air Force - '65 thru '68.

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May 12, 2020 13:07:40   #
Shihan Loc: Pendleton Oregon
 
Being a Vietnam era Vetran myself, I can’t believe that 50 years plus, the Vetrans of that terrible war are still being targeted. Is it an attack on the war and the Vetrans or just a stupid act of vandalism? Either way it’s a complete lack of respect. Just my thoughts.

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May 12, 2020 13:14:17   #
ShortorderCook62 Loc: Grand Junction, Colorado
 
I am also saddened and infuriated by this despicable act. I am also humbled by the attitude of the local vets. As a Christian I should have a forgiving spirit, but I'm afraid I too want to see the culprits punished severely. Maybe, when caught they could be "invited" to polish the Memorial monthly for the next twenty or thirty years. I hope they learn some respect from this incident. Vandalism really trivializes what they did. This was an act against hero men and women who gave the ultimate sacrifice so that we have the right and privilege to voice our opinions on this forum.

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May 12, 2020 13:41:21   #
JimRed Loc: Coastal New Jersey, Belmar area
 
Anger is appropriate. I'd like five minutes alone with the vandals (one at a time; I'm old).

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May 12, 2020 14:12:04   #
volfman Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
 
Probably teenagers that thought they were just having fun. That would be my hope. I would hate to think that real Viet Nam activists would still be that stupid, but they were that stupid back then.

Their punishment should fit their state of mind. Youngsters out for a good time should have to help restore the Wall. True haters should die slowly, after they are made to repair the damage.

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May 12, 2020 18:30:25   #
FrenchieQ Loc: Manchester TWP., Ocean County, NJ
 
Nothing is as despicable as this act other than Jane Fonda's treason! I'm a Nam combat vet who bleeds Red, White and Blue and will not sit idly by when I see any such acts as these. I was in DC for the March of Eagles to protect the Wall when Fonda threatened a demonstration and an attempt to deface the Wall!. Not a mark made it on the monument. It's very simple, if you don't like our country, leave our country, there are many more countries in the world you can live in. We need to find and punish these vandals to the fullest degree of the law.

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May 12, 2020 21:41:29   #
volfman Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
 
Thank you for your service to our country. I think that who ever did this to the Wall will be found out. You will never be given the opportunity to punish them yourself. Such a shame. That kind of justice, though I do not believe there is ever any real justice in this world, would go a long way toward stopping this kind of stuff. That is no longer the way of this country. The Red, White and Blue is quickly turning light purple.

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May 13, 2020 07:30:49   #
Big dog Loc: Bayshore, Long Island, New York
 
BadFisherman wrote:
There is no punishment severe enough.

https://militaryveteransofdisqus.org/traveling-vietnam-veterans-memorial-vandalized-with-hammer/

Posted May 11, 2020 Old Jarhead, by Dan Doyle

For years, a copy of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Washington, D.C. has travelled around the country and set up in places where people who might never be able to get to D.C. could visit it and maybe get some healing and closure.

One of those traveling walls was recently given a permanent home in John’s Creek, Georgia. The John’s Creek Veterans Association has been working on the set up of the permanent memorial since last July, and was going to have a Grand Opening celebration on March 28, 2020, but the coronavirus pandemic put the kibosh on that with the social distancing and stay at home requirements that were necessary to help control the spread of this deadly virus.

The Association was shocked recently to find that vandals had keyed about half of the panels of the installation and had taken a hammer to some of the other panels. Such behavior is beyond contempt. No matter the “reason” of self-righteous bravado vandals may give for their actions, the truth is that they are self-centered, insensitive cowards. These actions were done under cover of night. No courage there. One could imagine all kinds of righteous punishments for such actions.

My first reaction to this is to hunt down and teach the idiots a true lesson, from a Vietnam Era Veteran. But the story gets better.

But Mike Mizell of the Johns Creek Veterans Association is a much more centered and thoughtful individual than I am in this case. When asked about his feelings concerning the damage done to the Vietnam Memorial with its over 58,000 names of those who fell there in service to the nation, he responded, directing his comment to the perpetrator’s with, “You didn’t hurt the structure, you hurt people.”

When asked what he would like to see done to whomever did this he simply told the reporter that “he would like whoever did this to join them in cleaning the park and taking in the history it holds.”

Mike Mizell is clearly a man with some real moral character.

My respect for Mike Mizell knows no ends. I could never be as forgiving, or as calm as he appears to be here. To me, this is simply unimaginable.

It is a fact that when bad things happen to good people, the responses they give for their hurt reveals either the quality of their character or the lack thereof. Mike Mizell and the John’s Creek Veterans Association have every right to be angry about what has happened to this treasured memorial and how it effects Vietnam Veterans and their families, but Mizell’s response clearly shows that he and his fellow John’s Creek veterans are made of far superior stuff than that of those who did this to that honored memorial.

It is the action of our better angels not just to punish those who do wrong, but to invite and to challenge the wrong doer to turn away from their selfish actions, to pay the necessary recompense for their actions, and to learn how to grow into their better selves. Mizell’s comment is rooted in that kind of “better angels” kind of thinking.

The Veterans Site sends its support and its thanks to the John’s Creek Veterans Association and the Vietnam veterans of Georgia. We hope that the repairs to the John’s Creek Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall can be done quickly and that you will be able to have your Grand Opening sometime soon. We say, “Welcome Home” to all the Vietnam Veterans and promise to never forget all our brothers and sisters who gave their last full measure in Vietnam and whose names are inscribed on that wall.

Yes, I am livid at the wastes of oxygen that did this desecration...especially as we approach Memorial Day.

https://blog.theveteranssite.greatergood.com/veterans-memorial-vandalized/?utm_source=vet-vetfan&utm_medium=social-fb&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=veterans-memorial-vandalized&utm_term=8215789&fbclid=IwAR3Izij9xOGZaWyBf-zDfxUYfHQFC8Myr3ey36cExy9Ec227tJtNSKaiABo
There is no punishment severe enough. br br https... (show quote)


A two year forced enlistment might teach a little respect.

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May 13, 2020 12:12:18   #
The CDB is Awesome Loc: Marshall, Madison County, North Carolina
 
BadFisherman wrote:
There is no punishment severe enough.

https://militaryveteransofdisqus.org/traveling-vietnam-veterans-memorial-vandalized-with-hammer/

Posted May 11, 2020 Old Jarhead, by Dan Doyle

For years, a copy of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Washington, D.C. has travelled around the country and set up in places where people who might never be able to get to D.C. could visit it and maybe get some healing and closure.

One of those traveling walls was recently given a permanent home in John’s Creek, Georgia. The John’s Creek Veterans Association has been working on the set up of the permanent memorial since last July, and was going to have a Grand Opening celebration on March 28, 2020, but the coronavirus pandemic put the kibosh on that with the social distancing and stay at home requirements that were necessary to help control the spread of this deadly virus.

The Association was shocked recently to find that vandals had keyed about half of the panels of the installation and had taken a hammer to some of the other panels. Such behavior is beyond contempt. No matter the “reason” of self-righteous bravado vandals may give for their actions, the truth is that they are self-centered, insensitive cowards. These actions were done under cover of night. No courage there. One could imagine all kinds of righteous punishments for such actions.

My first reaction to this is to hunt down and teach the idiots a true lesson, from a Vietnam Era Veteran. But the story gets better.

But Mike Mizell of the Johns Creek Veterans Association is a much more centered and thoughtful individual than I am in this case. When asked about his feelings concerning the damage done to the Vietnam Memorial with its over 58,000 names of those who fell there in service to the nation, he responded, directing his comment to the perpetrator’s with, “You didn’t hurt the structure, you hurt people.”

When asked what he would like to see done to whomever did this he simply told the reporter that “he would like whoever did this to join them in cleaning the park and taking in the history it holds.”

Mike Mizell is clearly a man with some real moral character.

My respect for Mike Mizell knows no ends. I could never be as forgiving, or as calm as he appears to be here. To me, this is simply unimaginable.

It is a fact that when bad things happen to good people, the responses they give for their hurt reveals either the quality of their character or the lack thereof. Mike Mizell and the John’s Creek Veterans Association have every right to be angry about what has happened to this treasured memorial and how it effects Vietnam Veterans and their families, but Mizell’s response clearly shows that he and his fellow John’s Creek veterans are made of far superior stuff than that of those who did this to that honored memorial.

It is the action of our better angels not just to punish those who do wrong, but to invite and to challenge the wrong doer to turn away from their selfish actions, to pay the necessary recompense for their actions, and to learn how to grow into their better selves. Mizell’s comment is rooted in that kind of “better angels” kind of thinking.

The Veterans Site sends its support and its thanks to the John’s Creek Veterans Association and the Vietnam veterans of Georgia. We hope that the repairs to the John’s Creek Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall can be done quickly and that you will be able to have your Grand Opening sometime soon. We say, “Welcome Home” to all the Vietnam Veterans and promise to never forget all our brothers and sisters who gave their last full measure in Vietnam and whose names are inscribed on that wall.

Yes, I am livid at the wastes of oxygen that did this desecration...especially as we approach Memorial Day.

https://blog.theveteranssite.greatergood.com/veterans-memorial-vandalized/?utm_source=vet-vetfan&utm_medium=social-fb&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=veterans-memorial-vandalized&utm_term=8215789&fbclid=IwAR3Izij9xOGZaWyBf-zDfxUYfHQFC8Myr3ey36cExy9Ec227tJtNSKaiABo
There is no punishment severe enough. br br https... (show quote)


I'm with you BF there is no oh punishment bad enough for these unpatriotic cowards

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May 13, 2020 12:26:37   #
volfman Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
 
They'd just cry and whine and get the guy next to them hurt.

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May 13, 2020 12:26:46   #
volfman Loc: New Braunfels, Texas
 
volfman wrote:
They'd just cry and whine and get the guy next to them hurt.

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May 13, 2020 14:01:09   #
bigbarneycars Loc: Wilmington,NC
 
X2 on the UH-RAH. I missed Korea by Three years and Nam by Eight. I'm what was called a Hollywood Marine back then, But we did fight the Tijuana Campaign in '56-'57 & '58 and had to keep goin' back 'cuz they'd forget they'd been vanquished thru' the week. During that time we still had Marine ID#s. I was proudly 1614026, Jer

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May 13, 2020 16:02:10   #
MikeV Loc: Pensacola Fl
 
USMCFisherman wrote:
It irks me no end that this was done to the VN memorial. And it "is" personal. I served with many of the people who's names are on that wall. I'd like to beat the snot out of who ever did this. But realistically, at the age of 72, I may need someone to hold them for me.If they ran, I'd never be able to catch them. LOL

You no today Most people and a majority of the younger population have no regard for themself nor anyone else. Madlin O Hara 9 I hope I spelled that right) took Prayer out of school. Our Children turned into a bunch of either Gang bangers and idiots as to norms of morality. Just sayin

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