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Feb 8, 2024 14:17:15   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
40GRIT wrote:
Sawheeler, thanks for bringing this documentary to the Stage. I just finished watching it and it was very informative and disheartening……In response to your questions I would unfortunately say Yes, Yes and Yes. This year they shut down the salmon fishing completely here, due to lack of spawning salmon. When I first moved to California in 1997 (although not an active fisherman at that point) the salmon runs were very common and observable throughout this area, now they are not, not in any real numbers. In the documentary, very near the end, one of the experts stated that we (California) have the resources for a solution to the water needs and named a number of ways but then went on to say that isn’t the hurdle, it’s finding a solution to change the politics of the problem is the biggest hurdle. As I said, disheartening……….

I’d be interested in PapaD’s and Saw1’s views, I know PapaD (Doug) lives near and has fished the Delta for years and Saw1 (Steve) is also an long time area fisherman.
Sawheeler, thanks for bringing this documentary to... (show quote)


Sorry but I'll have to check it out later today -- need to help the boss get ready for company -- if she ain't happy, nobody's happy

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Feb 10, 2024 14:39:41   #
FishermanLeeSonoma
 
It's not obvious now but most of So CA is desert land. That's why the big canals in LA, to catch the flash flood water that happens during rains in the desert. So CA is a lot like Arizona, that there isn't a lot of fresh water but the complete waste of it for golf courses, large garden/lawn estates, etc. is obscene. When N. CA is suffering drought conditions, you used to see people washing their cars in So. CA. Besides this the all the water corruption to make the land owners and large farmers rich (let's not forget the cotton farmers in So CA.) At smaller dams created for really no good purpose reducing the access for spawning fish not only salmon, steelhead, sturgeon, etc. Really reduced the spawning areas. They are now taking down some of these smaller dams that because of energy loss for the distance power has to travel, make them inefficient. The way water is being used, the way cities have housing being built, etc. it is a combined effort to "destroy" a once abundant fishery that had many species co-existing. I remember early 70's when you could fish the Yuba River and catch within minutes a large King Salmon and then a jumbo Striped Bass.

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Feb 16, 2024 14:14:00   #
Proline 22 Loc: Sacramento ca
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
I am a San Diego County resident, relocating from the Northeast a couple decades ago, never traveling to Northern California.
It is through this fishing forum that I became aware of the magnitude of the Delta fishery.
Last night, I had a chance to watch this 2021 documentary of CA water regulations and the impact of river diversions.
It was disheartening for me to watch, focusing a lot on the negative ecosystem impact on the Delta.
So a few questions:
1. Does this documentary portray accurately? I'm guessing yes.
2. Have you experienced any of the described impacts?
3. Is it better now than in 2021?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=falDH2fSETA&t=1919s
Stephen
I am a San Diego County resident, relocating from ... (show quote)

Sawheeler52
I can tell you that the striper and salmon and steelhead fishing is nothing close to how it was in prior years. Having fished the delta for 60 years I've seen the size of stripes drastically diminished,,,in the 60s and 70s it was common to catch 20 and 30 pound stripes now they are rare,,,salmon numbers fluctuate and we all know about that lately,,,,I haven't seen a steelhead in the delta in years we use to catch them on night crawlers or crawded tails from the bank and they are almost gone from American river,,the only bright spot I have seen is the black bass fishery which is strong,,,

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Feb 17, 2024 15:02:26   #
The Human Limp Loc: French Gulch ca
 
I have said since 2003 that water will become the new oil. Unfortunately history tells us that big money usually wins. As you drive up the 5 corridor you see the walnut orchards and rice paddies being converted to almond orchards at an alarming rate. I don't have any answers to this dilemma as I believe government should stay out of private interprise. I also believe private enterprise shouldn't be able to rape the inviroment. Any of us who have fished the delta have noticed the quality of the water has greatly been reduced. We are doomed as a society with this them against us winner take all attitude.

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Feb 17, 2024 16:40:35   #
FishermanLeeSonoma
 
Water already being a depleted source and ground water at an all time low. It's time to think whether or not we want agro-business and housing to expand when we are already so lacking of water besides all the rest that comes with it. Perhaps with all these Nobel Prize winning universities, we should look at better planning and more suitable businesses that require less water. How many vineyards, almond groves, etc. do we need.

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