Real pressure to the fish
Sep 28, 2019 12:02:21 #
Ok I'm doing some testing for a flyfishing Magazine article....how much maximum load do you apply to the fish....I think you'll be shocked by my answers.....like input please
Sep 28, 2019 12:19:29 #
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Sep 28, 2019 13:03:10 #
Ok, I get it. As an avid bass fisherman the hook-set and or pressure varies from technique to technique and from lure to lure. Also, from rod to rod. Spinning or baitcast . My buddy fly fishes exclusively . Surf fishing, trout , and bass. I guess it matters what species of fish you’re targeting. What size fly rod... #4-#6-#8? 🏄🏼♂️🎣🤔
Sep 28, 2019 13:15:11 #
This peak my curiosity,when friend of mine, told me he used 80 dacron for sturgeon, after some preliminary testing, I challenged him to pickup 15 pounds off the floor, with his 6 ft Harrington roller guide rod, he couldn't do.and he's a big guy....with 80 lb dacron he had to use 36- 42 oz.. of lead because the line had such a large diameter, my point he couldn't break 20 lb test, why use 80lb. and 2 1/2 lbs. of lead....
Sep 28, 2019 13:42:17 #
Ya, I also surf fish for halibut & striped bass among other species... I fish with 8lb occasionally 10lb copolymer line on a 2500 Shimano Sedona. 8’6” Okuma salmon series. People look at me like I’m crazy with their 12’ rods, 4000-5000 spinning reels with 25lb mono. Who’s crazy and what are they fishing for... Moby Dick! 🏄🏼♂️🎣
Sep 28, 2019 14:20:35 #
LOL, you understand what I'm talking about...."Fish can't break anything unless you make them". Lefty Kreh....PS the longer and stiffer the rod, the less pressure you can put to the fish, if you had a 20' rod that didn't bend, I doubt you could pick up a pound, we're on the wrong end of the lever!!!
Sep 28, 2019 14:57:32 #
Ya, on the bass side, I’ve gone to longer rods, with much softer tips, and lighter line... it’s definitely upped my catch/land percentages. And, I don’t have to almost rip the lips off a fish to set the hook. Win win!🏄🏼♂️🎣
Sep 28, 2019 15:04:44 #
I'm using a 13' 6" 8wt spey rod on high teens steelhead and Coho, it's very forgiving, fish tire pretty fast if you can get them go upstream, and fight you and the current.....I try to get under them the second I hook up, usually works.....
Sep 28, 2019 15:12:54 #
The nice thing about longer rods with soft/faster tips is that it allows the angler to let the rod do the work. Intern, you can use much lighter line. I see a lot of bass fisherman using basically broom sticks with 17-20lb line... and struggling. And when they do hook up, that 20lb line has to do all the work almost killing the damn fish! 🏄🏼♂️🎣
Sep 28, 2019 20:03:20 #
Simple acid test, connect a non believer's rod to say 15 pounds, unless they have a 4ft blue fin tuna rod they won't move it.I have a medium action steelhead rod 6/15 lbs line wt. can't pick up 5 lbs.with it, bending far more than I would ever dare on a fish....
Sep 29, 2019 07:09:21 #
Raw Dawg Ron
Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
Pivoting point can`t pick up much weight there, but the length and flex of rod with a little give from line can put lots of pressure on a big fish! Take snook fishing, mostly under docks or near structure gotta pull with everything ya got! No mercy, test tackle and knots to prevent cut offs from a freight liner headed for a sharp cutoff! Now that`s reel pressure to the fish!
Sep 29, 2019 08:56:17 #
I would think that the maximum pressure available to apply to a hooked fish is determined by:
1) breaking strength of your line
2) where the drag is set
3) the amount of line you have in the water
4) the fighting ability of the fish.
The variables are the amount of line in the water and the breaking strength of the line.
An explanation is probably needed here. If you buy a 100 yard spool of 10 pound fishing line, the actual breaking strength is probably 10.2 or 10.3 pounds over the entire length of line. If you buy a 5000 yard spool of 10 pound line the breaking strength will vary at approximately 1000 yard intervals by as much as .3 of a pound. This is why the IGFA requires a length of line used to determine which category to check for any possibility of a new record.
1) breaking strength of your line
2) where the drag is set
3) the amount of line you have in the water
4) the fighting ability of the fish.
The variables are the amount of line in the water and the breaking strength of the line.
An explanation is probably needed here. If you buy a 100 yard spool of 10 pound fishing line, the actual breaking strength is probably 10.2 or 10.3 pounds over the entire length of line. If you buy a 5000 yard spool of 10 pound line the breaking strength will vary at approximately 1000 yard intervals by as much as .3 of a pound. This is why the IGFA requires a length of line used to determine which category to check for any possibility of a new record.
Sep 29, 2019 13:47:07 #
Like I mentioned earlier, the pressure on the fish is extremely variable, rod length, rod stiffness, as you apply pressure the rod techniquely gets shorter, increasing your mechanical advantage, if you had a rod that was 20' long and didn't bend, you wouldn't be able to apply more than a couple pounds to the fish, I'm also going to see how much force is required at the cork to achieve maximum numbers, preliminary test show it could be as much as 15 to 1, 30 pounds at cork to get 2 lbs force on the fish.... connect any rod to 15lbs. and see if you can lift, I can't, even with my ugly stick sturgeon rod for fear of breaking it!!
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