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Oct 21, 2023 19:21:43   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
They would nominate and support former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) for the Speaker position.

I'm sure they could get at least five Republicans to v**e for her because she would give moderate Republicans cover while also slapping the face of the MAGA faction.

With Cheney, the Republicans would get a conservative speaker who is known for her pro-business stance, focus on national security, support for the U.S. military and hawkish foreign policy views. The Democrats would get an honest and respected House leader that knows the value of working across the aisle.

As a Republican, I hope the Democrats wise up.

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Oct 21, 2023 19:31:23   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
Papa D wrote:
They would nominate and support former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) for the Speaker position.

I'm sure they could get at least five Republicans to v**e for her because she would give moderate Republicans cover while also slapping the face of the MAGA faction.

With Cheney, the Republicans would get a conservative speaker who is known for her pro-business stance, focus on national security, support for the U.S. military and hawkish foreign policy views. The Democrats would get an honest and respected House leader that knows the value of working across the aisle.

As a Republican, I hope the Democrats wise up.
They would nominate and support former Rep. Liz Ch... (show quote)



I agree. She is NOT fooled one bit by Don the Con she doesn’t want to answer to judges like his group of thugs do.

I think she would be great for sure. Shouldn’t we support more people like her? Honesty as a public servant should always outweigh your ego. Country should always be more important than your agenda.

Problem is we don’t have much say on this no matter how much we think we should. Bipartisan is what needs to happen but that’s like water and oil with NO emulsifier added.

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Oct 22, 2023 12:37:13   #
JDFishes Loc: Atlantic County
 
Yea I think they should nominate Trump. They would get things done and put a lid on the radical c*******t left.

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Oct 22, 2023 13:20:47   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
JDFishes wrote:
Yea I think they should nominate Trump. They would get things done and put a lid on the radical c*******t left.


Besides Trump having 91 too many indictments to qualify, there's no way he would get v**ed in.

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Oct 22, 2023 14:33:42   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
Papa D wrote:
They would nominate and support former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) for the Speaker position.

I'm sure they could get at least five Republicans to v**e for her because she would give moderate Republicans cover while also slapping the face of the MAGA faction.

With Cheney, the Republicans would get a conservative speaker who is known for her pro-business stance, focus on national security, support for the U.S. military and hawkish foreign policy views. The Democrats would get an honest and respected House leader that knows the value of working across the aisle.

As a Republican, I hope the Democrats wise up.
They would nominate and support former Rep. Liz Ch... (show quote)


Papa D,
I tried to remain silent on this thread; but apparently failed.
From an admittedly non-conservative Stager (seems to me from following this forum that it appears I am part of a very small minority); may I ask for your consideration:

1. Bipartisanship, fully agree it's what we need and I'm old enough to recall when it was how we governed (a lost art, during some pretty troubling times).

2. But the "...Democrats wise up"? Come on, man. If one was to follow this logic, it may also be offered that only 5-Republicans are necessary to elect minority leader Jeffries. Certainly just my view...the Democrats have zero responsibility to elect a House Leader in a Republican majority House.

3. It doesn't really matter who ends up Speaker. They will fail. Our country's Republican Party is broken, unable to govern for which they were elected. We need the country's Republican Party back. However flawed it may be, it's our 2-Party system which has gotten us this far.

4. From this left-leaner...Cheney? Though I do respect that during her tenure as the J****** 6 C*******e Vice Chair, she did her job. Just can't give extra points for simply doing your job. Though I likely disagree with most all of her legislative positions, I recognize her as a competent legislator (who by the way got booted by her own for being a voice of reason). Still have a little trouble with one who professes (direct quote) "waterboarding is not torture." Hey, what can you expect from a guy like me? I am a big believer that we need more women in positions of power as from my experience, they do seem to "get it" a bit more than the males I've met. 5-Democrat v**es for Liz??? Hahaha. Come on Republicans, take responsibility for our House. Seems to me, most continue to remain in denial.

5. I certainly agree the "MAGA faction" might benefit from some level of "slapping;" though I suspect it may already be too late.

Come on Stagers. Rip me to threads (nicely).
Stephen

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Oct 22, 2023 16:25:32   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
Papa D,
I tried to remain silent on this thread; but apparently failed.
From an admittedly non-conservative Stager (seems to me from following this forum that it appears I am part of a very small minority); may I ask for your consideration:


Glad you chose to speak up.

We may be the minority but I'm not going to remain silent.

For the record I'm a TRAMS (True Republican Against MAGA Sh*tHeads).

sawheeler52 wrote:

1. Bipartisanship, fully agree it's what we need and I'm old enough to recall when it was how we governed (a lost art, during some pretty troubling times).


I totally agree.

A good example was the late Senator Dianne Feinstein. Even though she was a Democrat, I respect the way she governed -- she had the backbone to go against her party lines and effectively worked across the aisle -- always with efficiency, integrity, style and grace.

I didn't always agree with her position (eg, gun control) but often did (eg, investigation of torture at CIA black sites).

Say what you want about her but it won't matter -- her constituents loved her.

The Republicans could use a few members with her political sk**ls.

sawheeler52 wrote:

2. But the "...Democrats wise up"? Come on, man. If one was to follow this logic, it may also be offered that only 5-Republicans are necessary to elect minority leader Jeffries.

Certainly just my view...


I think that if there were any Republicans that would v**e for Jeffries they would have already (Jeffries got more v**es for Speaker than any of the Republican nominees).

While Democrats don't have responsibility to select a House Leader in a Republican majority House, they do share the responsibility for effectively running the House.

I suspect that as soon as there's a Republican nominee that the Dems think that they can work with, they will elect them (the Republicans might have to make some concessions though).

If there isn't one nominated soon, it wouldn't surprise me if the Dems unanimously v**ed for there favorite Republican in the hopes that they could get 5 Republicans to join in.

sawheeler52 wrote:

3. It doesn't really matter who ends up Speaker. They will fail. Our country's Republican Party is broken, unable to govern for which they were elected. We need the country's Republican Party back. However flawed it may be, it's our 2-Party system which has gotten us this far.


Until the Republicans in the House figure out the necessary of working across the aisle in order to get their bills through a Democratic Senate and Whitehouse, their doomed to failure.

In my opinion it comes down to a matter of a choice.
1. Try to placate the MAGA extremists, or
2. Work across the aisle

They've been trying the 1st choice with little to no success. I think the time to take a "we don't negotiate with terrorists" tactic is long overdue.

sawheeler52 wrote:

4. From this left-leaner...Cheney? Though I do respect that during her tenure as the J****** 6 C*******e Vice Chair, she did her job. Just can't give extra points for simply doing your job. Though I likely disagree with most all of her legislative positions, I recognize her as a competent legislator (who by the way got booted by her own for being a voice of reason). Still have a little trouble with one who professes (direct quote) "waterboarding is not torture." Hey, what can you expect from a guy like me? I am a big believer that we need more women in positions of power as from my experience, they do seem to "get it" a bit more than the males I've met. 5-Democrat v**es for Liz??? Hahaha. Come on Republicans, take responsibility for our House. Seems to me, most continue to remain in denial.
br 4. From this left-leaner...Cheney? Though I d... (show quote)


I could but won't argue about any of this (ie, I respect that you have an opinion).

I agree with you 100% on the "more women in positions of power" part. (as long as it isn't Kari Lake)

sawheeler52 wrote:

5. I certainly agree the "MAGA faction" might benefit from some level of "slapping;" though I suspect it may already be too late.


Taken behind the woodshed would be more appropriate. (Deported to any of the countries that has a dictator that Trump deems "smart" may be a little extreme)

sawheeler52 wrote:

Come on Stagers. Rip me to threads (nicely).
Stephen


No rips intended but all attempts are welcomed.

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Oct 22, 2023 18:03:03   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
JDFishes wrote:
Yea I think they should nominate Trump. They would get things done and put a lid on the radical c*******t left.


JD,

I respect your position as our differences are what makes America who we are.

All I can offer, with all respect, is my attachment.

God bless our Constitution.

Tight lines.



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Oct 22, 2023 18:16:47   #
Papa D Loc: Mantweeka, Ca
 
I never considered that aspect of the 1st -- it's kind of a corollary to Abe's "Better to remain silent..." famous words of wisdom.

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Oct 22, 2023 21:00:24   #
JDFishes Loc: Atlantic County
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
JD,

I respect your position as our differences are what makes America who we are.

All I can offer, with all respect, is my attachment.

God bless our Constitution.

Tight lines.


So anyone who disagrees w you is an i***t? Not very tolerant of you.

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Oct 22, 2023 21:05:06   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
JDFishes wrote:
So anyone who disagrees w you is an i***t? Not very tolerant of you.


Negative.
In no way did I mean to insinuate that.
Think about it.
This sign applies to those of all inclinations.
Do you think I am an i***t? I'm guessing "maybe."
Like I said...think about it.
Viva la difference.
It's how we grow.
Tight lines always. Going back out in a couple days.

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Oct 22, 2023 22:00:49   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
JDFishes wrote:
So anyone who disagrees w you is an i***t? Not very tolerant of you.


JD,
In my view it even goes beyond tolerance.
It's more importantly about "embracing" those inputs we receive in life, avoiding judgement.

Full disclosure:
One of my most special friends has a "45" tattooed on his arm.
We love it.
See him every football Sunday or whenever his Cowboys play.
Tight lines.

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Oct 23, 2023 06:57:21   #
JDFishes Loc: Atlantic County
 
sawheeler52 wrote:
Negative.
In no way did I mean to insinuate that.
Think about it.
This sign applies to those of all inclinations.
Do you think I am an i***t? I'm guessing "maybe."
Like I said...think about it.
Viva la difference.
It's how we grow.
Tight lines always. Going back out in a couple days.


I’m cool w different views and generally don’t call those w other views i***ts.

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Oct 23, 2023 11:59:11   #
hueey Loc: Lake Fork Tx
 
Papa D wrote:
No rips intended but all attempts are welcomed.


Guess I’m a “MAGA-S——head.
And proud to admit it.

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Oct 23, 2023 12:44:44   #
sawheeler52 Loc: Escondido, CA
 
JDFishes wrote:
I’m cool w different views and generally don’t call those w other views i***ts.


JD,
I've re-read my initial sign posting and my replies to you since.
I can see how you reasonably interpreted it.
However unintended by me, please accept my apology.

Can't believe my son took my car to an early work-start this morning.
Generally fine as he left me his vehicle; however mine contained all my tackle.
Missed going out today, when in Escondido it was actually overcast and sprinkled a bit. They call that rain here.
That doesn't happen a lot in SoCal.
A missed opportunity.
Lesson learned to hold my tackle close.
Tight lines.

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Oct 23, 2023 13:21:44   #
hueey Loc: Lake Fork Tx
 
Thanks and still proud MSH😁😁😉😉

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