For the Republicans -- An offer they can't refuse!
Oct 21, 2023 15:16:12 #
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) told reporters after the third Speaker v**e, which Jordan lost by his highest amount yet. “So we’ve made them an offer. (In exchange for v****g in Jordan) The eight of us (that conspired with the Democrats to oust Kevin McCarthy) have said that we are willing to accept censure, sanction, suspension, removal from the Republican Conference.”
The Conference should:
1. Get their offer in writing.
2. V**e in Jordan
3. Send all eight to the curb
4. Oust Jordan and replace him with someone/anyone that can get shxt done!
May not be the most optimal solution for ending all the fluster clucking started by Matt Gaetz but it sure beats giving concessions to Democrats to do it.
It time for the Conference to put their big boy pants on and get back to the job of governing.
The Conference should:
1. Get their offer in writing.
2. V**e in Jordan
3. Send all eight to the curb
4. Oust Jordan and replace him with someone/anyone that can get shxt done!
May not be the most optimal solution for ending all the fluster clucking started by Matt Gaetz but it sure beats giving concessions to Democrats to do it.
It time for the Conference to put their big boy pants on and get back to the job of governing.
Oct 21, 2023 15:58:29 #
Papa D wrote:
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) told reporters after the ... (show quote)
My father always says if the laws these people effected them they wouldn’t make laws the way they do.
Another thing is their job is simply just to get re-elected.
Something else that is wrong is they should never be allowed to accept bribes and perks for making laws to help some private businesses. The rest of people that work for Government are never allowed to do that because it’s a conflict of interest just like it is for them.
So does this current boondoggle show you how much they don’t really care to do what is right or to get things done? I am not surprised. Modern politicians are there for themselves not the people.
Oct 21, 2023 17:28:00 #
I believe you are only 100% correct. If a congressman or senator is there for the money, he needs to be booted out! IT is not the place for gaining assets. Just Sayin...RJS
Oct 21, 2023 17:44:24 #
DC
Loc: Washington state
Papa D wrote:
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) told reporters after the ... (show quote)
while I do not agree with the eight and what they are doing I don't see how kicking them out of the republican confress accomplishes anything. they never should have agreed to the any one person could call a v**e to remove the head of the house. bottom line all were elected democrats, Republicans and all and the rule is it takes a majority v**e of all to win leader of the house which means they need to find someone the majority of all can agree upon or look like the useless body that they have become
Oct 21, 2023 17:44:55 #
Jeremy wrote:
My father always says if the laws these people eff... (show quote)
We don’t agree on everything my friend, but u are so right on this one! When is the last time that u heard from an elected politician honestly say and backed up with facts that he is speaking on behave of those constituents that v**ed them into office.You are a elected representative of the people.It is their voice that is your duty to represent!
Once u get poisoned by the power and financial potential your representation of the people who elected u goes out the window! At this time it becomes their personal view based on their personal needs and ther party affiliation
Yeah, and the majority of their staff and political donors that dictate their policy!
Oct 21, 2023 18:31:43 #
DC wrote:
while I do not agree with the eight and what they ... (show quote)
McCarthy agreed ( sign sealed etc ) to the anyone can start a v**e. So in other words you think McCarthy should have never agreed to the terms he did.
Oct 21, 2023 18:38:19 #
Still above water wrote:
We don’t agree on everything my friend, but u are ... (show quote)
I don’t want to argue with anyone. I learned more than I wanted to about Politics and lobbyists. I been to DC and saw how they live. It was fun but I know it’s true. Lobbyists ( representing private industries) can give them free trips for their entire families. Property as in paradise places etc etc. it goes on and on. It’s really not what the founding principles were. Back then they were considered very noble if they grew good hemp etc. Were looked up to for doing good things. I worked with a nutjob that always ran for mayor in several cities here and even Governor.
I saw him on news in a Republican Debate. He never answered the questions he just ranted about what he wanted to.
I saw him a day or two later at work and asked him if he does it for 5 minutes of fame or what? He said I simply do it for the political contributions I get. House cars and money…
Oct 21, 2023 18:54:19 #
DC
Loc: Washington state
Jeremy wrote:
McCarthy agreed ( sign sealed etc ) to the anyone can start a v**e. So in other words you think McCarthy should have never agreed to the terms he did.
yes
Oct 21, 2023 18:54:25 #
Jeremy wrote:
McCarthy agreed ( sign sealed etc ) to the anyone can start a v**e. So in other words you think McCarthy should have never agreed to the terms he did.
Kevin McCarthy may have proposed it as a concession but the House majority approved it.
To me the rule change is NOT THE PROBLEM, since the threshold for bringing a motion to vacate was just a single member of Congress between 1910 and 2019 (when Democrats took the majority). That year, the House modified the rules to allow a vacancy resolution to be brought only “if offered by direction of a party caucus or conference" — a much higher bar.
The new/current rules package, only changed the procedure for a motion to vacate back to how it had existed before, giving any member the power to raise it. (Since when did trashing something the Democrats become a bad thing?)
Oct 21, 2023 19:39:55 #
Placerville
Loc: Northern California
Jeremy wrote:
My father always says if the laws these people eff... (show quote)
👍
Oct 21, 2023 19:57:42 #
DC
Loc: Washington state
Papa D wrote:
Kevin McCarthy may have proposed it as a concessio... (show quote)
The rule itself just invites chaos speaker removal should not be simple majority but 2/3 and only for misconduct or violating house rules not for political disagreements. this would go a long way to avoid a few disgruntle members from holding up the whole work of the house. They elect a new speaker every 2 years that is the time for them to v**e for a person that they think will do the best job not every time the speaker takes a v**e or position they don't like. This is crazy and they have really shot themselves in the foot or higher up this time, instead of dealing with the boarder, the war, the p**********l misconduct they have closed things down and are doing nothing productive. Far better to get 85% of what you want done instead of 0% and while those 8 republicans enabled this whole shut down the democrats are happily allowing it to go on neither side is looking out for what is best for our nation but what is good for their partisan politics
Oct 22, 2023 09:35:49 #
MoJoe
Loc: Springfield, MO
Jeremy wrote:
My father always says if the laws these people eff... (show quote)
Finally, something that even I can agree with you on.....
Oct 22, 2023 10:24:52 #
Oct 22, 2023 13:15:28 #
DC wrote:
The rule itself just invites chaos speaker removal... (show quote)
Like I said, the rule is not the problem.
The single motion simple-majority rule existed for over 100 years yet it was first time in US history that a Speaker of the House was ousted through successful passage of through Gaetz's motion to vacate.
The true problem and sole source of the chaos are the group of MAGA extremist who v**ed to remove McCarthy. They have not only crippled the Republican's House-majority but have effectively shut down the entire Congress.
Oct 26, 2023 10:46:18 #
hueey
Loc: Lake Fork Tx
Wonder why MAGA always is the reason for any type of political issues???
I’m all for making America great again and always.
Guess if I understand a lot of the anti MAGA group our country would be all peaches and cream if Hillary would have been elected. 👀
I’m all for making America great again and always.
Guess if I understand a lot of the anti MAGA group our country would be all peaches and cream if Hillary would have been elected. 👀
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