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impact that the shifting poles has on weather
Apr 4, 2023 11:49:00   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
OK this is a question for Commander Bell and any other of you with a science background. We know the north pole is shifting and has shifted around 600 miles since 1990. My question is what if any effect does this have on weather patterns? Does it have an effect on ocean currents, seasonal weather in any way. I ask this after a second day of snow in our area which while not unheard of in april it does seem the last couple years we have had more frequent spring snows and our fall rains seem to come later and our winters seem to be cooler. Just curious if the movement of the magnetic poles plays any role in weather. Please try to focus on just this one aspect as it relates to weather patterns and not the broader climate change argument.

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Apr 4, 2023 12:10:33   #
plumbob Loc: New Windsor Maryland
 
DC wrote:
OK this is a question for Commander Bell and any other of you with a science background. We know the north pole is shifting and has shifted around 600 miles since 1990. My question is what if any effect does this have on weather patterns? Does it have an effect on ocean currents, seasonal weather in any way. I ask this after a second day of snow in our area which while not unheard of in april it does seem the last couple years we have had more frequent spring snows and our fall rains seem to come later and our winters seem to be cooler. Just curious if the movement of the magnetic poles plays any role in weather. Please try to focus on just this one aspect as it relates to weather patterns and not the broader climate change argument.
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Think I will watch this one DC. I googled naturally and found some interesting write up's. Way to many to copy and paste so let's see what guys in the know, know.

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Apr 4, 2023 12:41:53   #
ripogenu Loc: norfolk, MA
 
DC wrote:
OK this is a question for Commander Bell and any other of you with a science background. We know the north pole is shifting and has shifted around 600 miles since 1990. My question is what if any effect does this have on weather patterns? Does it have an effect on ocean currents, seasonal weather in any way. I ask this after a second day of snow in our area which while not unheard of in april it does seem the last couple years we have had more frequent spring snows and our fall rains seem to come later and our winters seem to be cooler. Just curious if the movement of the magnetic poles plays any role in weather. Please try to focus on just this one aspect as it relates to weather patterns and not the broader climate change argument.
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don't know where you got the 600 miles from. The IERS documentation, including current satellite info has the axis moving between 34 and 37 feet. apparently this is a function of the "Chandler Wobble". Earths rotation is a function of a lot of variables: tides, winds, volcanic eruptions, glacial melting and core activity. there haven't been any valid studies that can connect weather effects and axis shifts. the weather patterns seem to be more related to ocean currents and water temperature.

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Apr 4, 2023 13:48:14   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
ripogenu wrote:
don't know where you got the 600 miles from. The IERS documentation, including current satellite info has the axis moving between 34 and 37 feet. apparently this is a function of the "Chandler Wobble". Earths rotation is a function of a lot of variables: tides, winds, volcanic eruptions, glacial melting and core activity. there haven't been any valid studies that can connect weather effects and axis shifts. the weather patterns seem to be more related to ocean currents and water temperature.
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https://www.sciencealert.com/navigation-systems-finally-caught-up-with-the-mysteriously-north-pole-shift

"Since 1990, it has moved a whopping 600 miles (970 kilometres), and it can be found in the middle of the Arctic Ocean, 4 degrees south of geographic north - for the moment."

the movement is not something new even way back when I was a boy scout we were told to make adjustment on the compass from magnetic to true north because of the shift it is just that it is shifting a little more in recent time I was just wondering if it impacted weather at all

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Apr 4, 2023 17:59:50   #
ripogenu Loc: norfolk, MA
 
DC wrote:
https://www.sciencealert.com/navigation-systems-finally-caught-up-with-the-mysteriously-north-pole-shift

"Since 1990, it has moved a whopping 600 miles (970 kilometres), and it can be found in the middle of the Arctic Ocean, 4 degrees south of geographic north - for the moment."

the movement is not something new even way back when I was a boy scout we were told to make adjustment on the compass from magnetic to true north because of the shift it is just that it is shifting a little more in recent time I was just wondering if it impacted weather at all
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Sorry DC, I mistook your question to be about the axis at the pole not the magnetic NP

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Apr 5, 2023 15:37:41   #
USAF Major Loc: Sea Bright, NJ
 
Magnetic NP is about 5 degrees off in central NJ compass readings.

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Apr 5, 2023 22:28:31   #
Pops9of12 Loc: Alaska
 
I don’t chirp much, cuz not sure anything I say makes much difference. I grew up in Michigan through 60-70s. On lake st Clair all Great Lake effects, flooded us too, drought too, seemed to happen on a 20 yr cycle? I’ve been a proud Alaska resident since 86’. Back then -20-40 in February for 2-3 weeks brutal. So most of us counted on February as a brutal month. This was whole state. Worked in -80 up north. 10 yrs later 10 20 degree up swing. 10 yrs another swing. Etc February rains, not always but more than ever. May drop back and freeze up. So big swing back and forth. I always said it’s a 20 yr cycle. I truly want to think so. I’m not so sure anymore. All the weather changes in lower 48. Fires tornados and hurricanes that didn’t happen 20-30 or more years ago. Got an old man thinking I’m wanting it to be a cycle. So so much for my kids, grandchildren and great grandchildren. Idk guys

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Apr 5, 2023 22:51:20   #
audigger53 Loc: Severn, MD
 
The one that scared me was when they found the Mamouth(?) frozen in the ice and when they cut it open they found flowers not digested in its stomach. The only way that could have happened is if the Magnetic poles flipped. When that happens all bets are off. The earth is a generator. The Van Allen Belt shows the fields of flux from the spinning molten core. The Van Allen Belt protects us from the radiation from the sun. Not the Heat, but the radiation. The Axial Tilt of the Earth also affects the weather for hotter or colder. The Sun is the real changer though. With lots of Sunspot activity it pushes the radiant heat past the Earth. When there are few to no Sunspots, the radiant heat stays here and it gets warmer.

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Apr 5, 2023 23:17:26   #
DC Loc: Washington state
 
audigger53 wrote:
The one that scared me was when they found the Mamouth(?) frozen in the ice and when they cut it open they found flowers not digested in its stomach. The only way that could have happened is if the Magnetic poles flipped. When that happens all bets are off. The earth is a generator. The Van Allen Belt shows the fields of flux from the spinning molten core. The Van Allen Belt protects us from the radiation from the sun. Not the Heat, but the radiation. The Axial Tilt of the Earth also affects the weather for hotter or colder. The Sun is the real changer though. With lots of Sunspot activity it pushes the radiant heat past the Earth. When there are few to no Sunspots, the radiant heat stays here and it gets warmer.
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yes the world is wonderfully made with all sorts of systems that are cyclical and self regulating in how they function and we really do not come close to understanding it all. even that big algie bloom out in the ocean is part of the carbon dioxide/ oxygen natural regulating cycle at work . I am just thinking about the implications of a magnetic field flip which I understand has happened several times

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