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Apr 1, 2023 11:58:20   #
TheMinimalistFisherman Loc: Northern Illinois
 
Good morning brothers. I have a question for you as I continue to work on these rods and the 'ol jon boat...

There is a very large lake near me that gets a lot of high wind. Because of this, it is not safe for me to take my little dingy out and explore the offshore depths. However, there are miles and miles of steep, rocky shoreline. I'm wondering a few things and would love your input as I plan my initial trip here in IL...

1. What is your favorite way to work steep, rip-rap banks? I'm thinking about a deep diving crank, or possibly stroking a lipless to get even deeper - it gets really deep and the rocks are huge in this lake - and we're talking miles and miles of shoreline. Could never cover it all. Probably going to take a bike and pedal to an area, fish it quickly for active bass, and move within 5 minutes unless we get bit.

2. For context - the lake in question is LaSalle Lake in Illinois. The last time I explored this particular body of water, I only caught dinks, but saw some big ones and on another trip I broke off on a good fish that I believe was a big smallie, and I'm not trying to spam the forum but this vid shows the lake in more detail: LaSalle Lake Fishing Day 1

I think it's worth giving it another shot, but with 4 boys and very limited time, I need to be smart about where I invest limited fishing time...

Thanks for any and all feedback - and happy Saturday!



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Apr 1, 2023 12:04:11   #
Jeremy Loc: America
 
1 watercraft. I prefer using watercraft big or small whenever possible. Not limited to one angle of presentation or stuck with the position of sun when can maneuver watercraft for advantage.

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Apr 1, 2023 12:07:27   #
TheMinimalistFisherman Loc: Northern Illinois
 
Thank you - I should specify I'm shore bound for the time being when it comes to lakes this big. Wind whips up right quick and it's wide open and elevated - gets very nasty very fast.

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Apr 1, 2023 12:19:52   #
OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin
 
You could try a crank bait (lipless, or not), a Ned rig, a wacky rigged Senko and perhaps a small spinner bait. Depending on the ages of the boys, slip bobbers and worms may be helpful?
Good luck!

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Apr 1, 2023 12:46:39   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
A lot of unknowns to offer really specific advice. Things that are common to a specific type of lake cause bass to behave differently. But, in general truly vertical walls make great highways for the fish to use when they travel. The key here is that your fish aren't hanging around so a moving bait is a great choice. You mentioned big boulders and this can create the fishing hot spots I would target. This area will hold crawdads and baitfish. Bass will use it as an ambush spot. The real plus is that just about any bait will work. I wouldn't be surprised if you establish a pattern from the bank where you
catch a fish or two from every bolder area that has the same characteristics in size, depth, and make up.

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Apr 1, 2023 13:12:00   #
NJ219bands Loc: New Jersey
 
I caught a lot of big fish in Lake Ontario from the shore with Little Cleo spoons and Rapala plugs. Fish a pattern where you cover 180 degrees of the water, then move to another spot until you find a school of fish.

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Apr 1, 2023 13:22:59   #
TooMuch Loc: NE Alabama
 
Is catching your main goal or spending time with the kids building great memories? Both? Is the dingy big enough for all? Take them out and learn together! I like to spend 20-30 minutes on scouting trips prior to taking guests so that I have some info on the area. Bluegil and perch are the best way to introduce young uns and are tasty rewards afterwards. Have fun and tight lines

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Apr 1, 2023 13:53:27   #
TheMinimalistFisherman Loc: Northern Illinois
 
Guys I'm sorry the kids will be at home this trip - what I meant was that with 4 kids it's hard to make time to fish. They are the priority. When I take them out we hit creeks and small city lakes :)

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Apr 1, 2023 18:07:11   #
TheMinimalistFisherman Loc: Northern Illinois
 
OJdidit wrote:
You could try a crank bait (lipless, or not), a Ned rig, a wacky rigged Senko and perhaps a small spinner bait. Depending on the ages of the boys, slip bobbers and worms may be helpful? Good luck!


Thanks man! I'm not sure what the heck to try but this is helpful. Appreciate it!

NoCal Steve wrote:
A lot of unknowns to offer really specific advice. Things that are common to a specific type of lake cause bass to behave differently. But, in general truly vertical walls make great highways for the fish to use when they travel. The key here is that your fish aren't hanging around so a moving bait is a great choice. You mentioned big boulders and this can create the fishing hot spots I would target. This area will hold crawdads and baitfish. Bass will use it as an ambush spot. The real plus is that just about any bait will work. I wouldn't be surprised if you establish a pattern from the bank where you catch a fish or two from every bolder area that has the same characteristics in size, depth, and make up.
A lot of unknowns to offer really specific advice.... (show quote)


Thank you for the quality response. You brought up an excellent point and I think it's a good idea to be on the lookout for similar items (any sort of pattern) with the amount of shoreline that I COULD fish. Great point.

NJ219bands wrote:
I caught a lot of big fish in Lake Ontario from the shore with Little Cleo spoons and Rapala plugs. Fish a pattern where you cover 180 degrees of the water, then move to another spot until you find a school of fish.


Smallmouth, by chance? I'm looking for largies & smallies, and never caught a striper although I believe there are "hybrids" or "wipers" or... something... in there...

Thanks guys, this is a start for sure!

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Apr 1, 2023 21:23:58   #
NJ219bands Loc: New Jersey
 
Trout

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Apr 2, 2023 10:04:03   #
TheMinimalistFisherman Loc: Northern Illinois
 
NJ219bands wrote:
Trout


Gotcha - thanks!

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Apr 2, 2023 13:25:32   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
Senko wacky rigged. cast near parallel to bank, ie. 1 to 10 feet of water. Let let it free fall working out a few feet each cast. If no hit, then cast into 10 to 20 feet of water. The fish will let you know what depth they are in. Note: they will be in very shallow water at sunrise and sunset. Maybe even only a foot or two from dry land.walk a few step and repeat. Given limited clarity on your location, I would expect you should use a weedless hook. Let worm sink all the way to the bottom then let sit for 15 seconds. Any color will work as long as it is watermelon green. Watch your line. A lot of bites are seen rather than felt.

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Apr 2, 2023 15:53:01   #
TheMinimalistFisherman Loc: Northern Illinois
 
bapabear wrote:
Senko wacky rigged. cast near parallel to bank, ie. 1 to 10 feet of water. Let let it free fall working out a few feet each cast. If no hit, then cast into 10 to 20 feet of water. The fish will let you know what depth they are in. Note: they will be in very shallow water at sunrise and sunset. Maybe even only a foot or two from dry land.walk a few step and repeat. Given limited clarity on your location, I would expect you should use a weedless hook. Let worm sink all the way to the bottom then let sit for 15 seconds. Any color will work as long as it is watermelon green. Watch your line. A lot of bites are seen rather than felt.
Senko wacky rigged. cast near parallel to bank, ie... (show quote)


Hey thanks! So question regarding rip-rap... you mentioned they would be up SUPER shallow at sunrise and sunset. I know we're talking "usually", but is that the case on both slow-tapering and steep rip-rap shorelines? I've never really paid too much attention to what time of day it was vs. how ultra shallow some of the fish were... maybe I should do a better job of that... thanks for the tip!

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Apr 2, 2023 17:59:18   #
NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA
 
TheMinimalistFisherman wrote:
Hey thanks! So question regarding rip-rap... you mentioned they would be up SUPER shallow at sunrise and sunset. I know we're talking "usually", but is that the case on both slow-tapering and steep rip-rap shorelines? I've never really paid too much attention to what time of day it was vs. how ultra shallow some of the fish were... maybe I should do a better job of that... thanks for the tip!


Always remember the 80/20 rule... 80% of the fish are in 20% of the water. You can let your bait sit on the bottom for 24 hours and catch nothing if you are fishing where there are no fish. There is really no substitute for getting out there, observing all the variables, and learning each time. Done right, in short order you'll know where to go and when. I always tell myself when those inevitable skunks happen that it was an opportunity to learn and not a reason to get discouraged.

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Apr 3, 2023 11:53:03   #
bapabear Loc: Blaine, Washington
 
TheMinimalistFisherman wrote:
Hey thanks! So question regarding rip-rap... you mentioned they would be up SUPER shallow at sunrise and sunset. I know we're talking "usually", but is that the case on both slow-tapering and steep rip-rap shorelines? I've never really paid too much attention to what time of day it was vs. how ultra shallow some of the fish were... maybe I should do a better job of that... thanks for the tip!


First, correction on my part. "They could, not would be" The more predatory fish move into the shallows as the light gets lower to chase bait fish, even in shallow bank rip rap. I often go fishing in the evening about the time everyone else is headed home. I have hooked smallmouth bass in water that barely covered the fishes back.

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