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Mar 28, 2023 22:58:16   #
Fishing Fool Loc: redding, ca
 
Again we have released thousands and do lose a few. No we don't use weights as they don't know the depth you were fishing!!! If you can understand how to use a descending tool that releases them at the depth you caught them at and it works!!!! So again if you really are concerned about killing fish that are under sized maybe you could learn.šŸ˜°šŸ˜„šŸ˜°

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Mar 29, 2023 00:27:18   #
nutz4fish Loc: Colchester, CT
 
BA wrote:
I have fished Gulf of Mexico sence I was a young boy with my father doing walk on charter fishing out of Pensacola and Destin. Every chance I could possibly get I was on the open waters. Iā€™ve seen a lot of changes in the past 60 years and not any of them are for the good but I still enjoy being out there. I am all for conservation to ensure my children and grandchildren can enjoy what Iā€™ve had enjoyed. Some of the rules are absolutely ridiculous such as; size limit on red snapper. Sounds great in Tallahassee where they decide on this rule but in real life you are trying to return undersized good eating fish back to their environment where statistically most will die no matter what method you use for release. Common sense solution would be no matter what size you catch you have to keep. Raise the limit to six per and a hefty fine if you throw any undersized overboard. The only mortality rate would be on your dinner table. Another change Iā€™ve seen is with other fishermen. The last few years people are becoming absolutely rude. Iā€™ve had people drop their anchor on my anchor of course always turn into a nightmare situation especially with a little bit of chop. Some fish so close to us we actually get tangled in their lines. Hello!! This is a big gulf of Mexico with hundreds and thousands of public readings there is no possible reason two crowd other fisherman. Not only is it irritating it can be dangerous! I sum it up as rude behavior or ignorance. Another thing Iā€™ve noticed has changed over the years is that we have trained porpoises /dolphins to get their dinner from the fish we are pulling up and the undersize we are trying to send back to the bottom. Every boat out there is guilty of training and making a nuisance of these beautiful mammals. Why? We are forced by law to return all undersized. Iā€™ve questioned this for many years the answer I get from the law enforcement ā€œit returns them to the food chainā€ ? Thereā€™s plenty more gripes I could share but for today this is plenty. I have a few years left hopefully I can enjoy deep-sea fishing you betcha I will be out there every chance I can.
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Nice fish, BA. Welcome to the Stage. Lots of great folks here so enjoy to the Brother ( & Sister ) hood. You're not alone in having issues with some particular regs., most of us do. Glad to have you aboard. BTW, is that your son with ya? Looks like you in the eye department.

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Mar 29, 2023 13:55:43   #
woodguru Loc: El Dorado Ca
 
BA wrote:
Venting fish and hoping they make it back to the bottom and live a normal healthy life is hoping a lot. They have been studies on released reef fish and found a significant portion of them dead within a short time. I agree with you that sending them back down with heavy weights to the bottom to be released is the best method. There is a large program in the state of Florida itā€™s called ā€œrelease em rightā€ this method is effective but certainly not 100% When one comes out of the water with both eyeballs protruding from the sockets and a stream of intestines spewing out of his anus his float bladder protruding out of his mouth I have serious doubts about his survival no matter what method of release is used. These fish was wasted because maybe a quarter inch shy of the required length. Solution is change the law! you keep what you catch Regardless of the size. Smaller fish generally taste better anywayšŸ˜€
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I'm with you on the smaller fish

Excellent observations IMO...same mortality common sense is a reality with trout in terms of catch and release. My wife has friends from college that went into marine biology with veterinary skills. Trout are far more sensitive than people know, but they get what they want to believe stuck in their heads and you can't tell them anything.

One example of properly handling trout is keeping your hand that touches the fish wet, why? Where you touch the fish with a dry hand causes the slime on the fish's skin to come off because it sticks to your hand. That slime protects the fish against invasive skin fungus, so that fish gets harmed weeks or months down the road.

Touch a gill, figure it's dead, period...that is like touching inside someone's lungs. That convenient gill hold is deadly to a fish.

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Mar 29, 2023 14:49:35   #
segeezer Loc: Englewood, FL
 
You are right on about size limits. I live on a small private lake in Michigan. It's a tremendous bass lake. But all our residents keep the small bass and release the large breeding fish. We never lack for dinner. We spend four months in Englewood each year. Would appreciate any advice about offshore, up to 25 miles out, that you can provide.

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Mar 29, 2023 16:52:24   #
BA Loc: Pace Florida
 
nutz4fish wrote:
Nice fish, BA. Welcome to the Stage. Lots of great folks here so enjoy to the Brother ( & Sister ) hood. You're not alone in having issues with some particular regs., most of us do. Glad to have you aboard. BTW, is that your son with ya? Looks like you in the eye department.

Yes you are correct thatā€™s my youngest son. he cannot remember his first fishing trip. He was virtually raised up on the water and inherited my enthusiasm actually he is somewhat obsessed. Now that Iā€™m getting on up in years he is quick to take the helm when the seas are rough or my Rod when it is bent double over the rail and the old man has met his match. I am blessed to have him as a fishing partner if not for him Iā€™d be home wishing Instead of fishing a lot of times







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Mar 29, 2023 18:51:23   #
nutz4fish Loc: Colchester, CT
 
BA wrote:
Yes you are correct thatā€™s my youngest son. he cannot remember his first fishing trip. He was virtually raised up on the water and inherited my enthusiasm actually he is somewhat obsessed. Now that Iā€™m getting on up in years he is quick to take the helm when the seas are rough or my Rod when it is bent double over the rail and the old man has met his match. I am blessed to have him as a fishing partner if not for him Iā€™d be home wishing Instead of fishing a lot of times


BA, I was going to reply " Lucky You ", but realized it's NOT luck, it's the result of good parenting. So, Job Well Done ! šŸ„œz.

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Mar 30, 2023 12:59:00   #
smitty Loc: maine
 
BA wrote:
I have fished Gulf of Mexico sence I was a young boy with my father doing walk on charter fishing out of Pensacola and Destin. Every chance I could possibly get I was on the open waters. Iā€™ve seen a lot of changes in the past 60 years and not any of them are for the good but I still enjoy being out there. I am all for conservation to ensure my children and grandchildren can enjoy what Iā€™ve had enjoyed. Some of the rules are absolutely ridiculous such as; size limit on red snapper. Sounds great in Tallahassee where they decide on this rule but in real life you are trying to return undersized good eating fish back to their environment where statistically most will die no matter what method you use for release. Common sense solution would be no matter what size you catch you have to keep. Raise the limit to six per and a hefty fine if you throw any undersized overboard. The only mortality rate would be on your dinner table. Another change Iā€™ve seen is with other fishermen. The last few years people are becoming absolutely rude. Iā€™ve had people drop their anchor on my anchor of course always turn into a nightmare situation especially with a little bit of chop. Some fish so close to us we actually get tangled in their lines. Hello!! This is a big gulf of Mexico with hundreds and thousands of public readings there is no possible reason two crowd other fisherman. Not only is it irritating it can be dangerous! I sum it up as rude behavior or ignorance. Another thing Iā€™ve noticed has changed over the years is that we have trained porpoises /dolphins to get their dinner from the fish we are pulling up and the undersize we are trying to send back to the bottom. Every boat out there is guilty of training and making a nuisance of these beautiful mammals. Why? We are forced by law to return all undersized. Iā€™ve questioned this for many years the answer I get from the law enforcement ā€œit returns them to the food chainā€ ? Thereā€™s plenty more gripes I could share but for today this is plenty. I have a few years left hopefully I can enjoy deep-sea fishing you betcha I will be out there every chance I can.
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hi ba
boyoboy did you nail that one. used to live in vero [east coast] loved fishin the blue water but hated feedin the shorts to the dolphins. wonder what the release vs keep % is on avg. i would bet at least 90 out of every snapper caught end up dolphin dinner. btw... the last year i lived in fla snapper "season" was TWO DAYS in the middle of august

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Mar 30, 2023 13:00:08   #
smitty Loc: maine
 
smitty wrote:
hi ba
boyoboy did you nail that one. used to live in vero [east coast] loved fishin the blue water but hated feedin the shorts to the dolphins. wonder what the release vs keep % is on avg. i would bet at least 90 out of every snapper caught end up dolphin dinner. btw... the last year i lived in fla snapper "season" was TWO DAYS in the middle of august


shoulda read 90 outta every 100
00ps

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Mar 31, 2023 18:45:05   #
BA Loc: Pace Florida
 
smitty wrote:
shoulda read 90 outta every 100
00ps

Yes we have trained those dolphins for easy freebies. They are a nuisance I have pulled the hook and ran a couple of miles to another spot all to have them follow me and start it over again. Also when they show up a lot of times The bite can slow. Sometimes the only deterrent is to take advantage other boats coming to fish where youā€™re at let them hook up a couple then drift several hundred yards before you crank up the motors and go to another spot. Hopefully you leave the Dolphins there šŸ˜‚. Our governor DeSantis has really helped the recreational fishing offshore as to increase the Open season for red snapper he told the feds he can manage the snapper conservation in his state which he has! But we have to wait until June sometime,but by then it gets very hot early And the risk of getting cought in a summer thunderstorm increasesšŸ˜¬ Just take the bad with the good and enjoy yourself every chance you can. The worst day of fishing is a whole lot better than the best day of honey do list

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Apr 1, 2023 10:32:51   #
smitty Loc: maine
 
BA wrote:
Yes we have trained those dolphins for easy freebies. They are a nuisance I have pulled the hook and ran a couple of miles to another spot all to have them follow me and start it over again. Also when they show up a lot of times The bite can slow. Sometimes the only deterrent is to take advantage other boats coming to fish where youā€™re at let them hook up a couple then drift several hundred yards before you crank up the motors and go to another spot. Hopefully you leave the Dolphins there šŸ˜‚. Our governor DeSantis has really helped the recreational fishing offshore as to increase the Open season for red snapper he told the feds he can manage the snapper conservation in his state which he has! But we have to wait until June sometime,but by then it gets very hot early And the risk of getting cought in a summer thunderstorm increasesšŸ˜¬ Just take the bad with the good and enjoy yourself every chance you can. The worst day of fishing is a whole lot better than the best day of honey do list
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