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North Carolina’s Recreational Anglers Face Another Challenge……Oyster Farms
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Mar 25, 2023 14:46:49   #
Gordon Loc: Charleston South Carolina
 
Got this email today. The article is worth reading especially if you are from NC.

This is part 2 of a 3 part series of posts on the declining status of North Carolina’s Coastal Fishing Resource. As you know, Saltwater Angler online magazine covers many aspects of saltwater fishing in numerous coastal states. We try to avoid focusing on any single state and minimize our opinions on current events or concerns. However, we feel that we would not be serving our valued readerships if we ignored issues that have a negative impact on recreational fishing. For that reason, we have opted to pursue the continuing events impacting North Carolina Fishing resources and the people that fish them. We will voice our opinion at times, but will always strive to be correct in our information and how it’s presented to you. We feel anything less would be a disservice to the people of North Carolina and its fishing enthusiasts. Today we consider ourselves the voice and information source of those that fish these wonderful waters of North Carolina.

Part 2 In a 2 Part Series

Recreational anglers of North Carolina have again been dealt another blow by the North Carolina Division of Marine Fisheries. This is the second of 3 changes in the state’s management of our saltwater fishing resources that has a direct hit on recreational fishermen. Recently the NCDMV approved a program that allows the leasing of oyster farms in Pender County, NC. This area is a popular fishing location just north of Wilmington, NC, more well known as Topsail Island Surf City.























In the past, oyster farms have had little impact on the locals in the Topsail Island area as well as other North Carolina locations. However, a few months ago it was announced that North Carolina would make leases available to commercial oyster farms in the area. It was then discovered that the leased farm areas would not only impact a significant part of Topsail Island waters, it would also restrict fishing in a number of the area creeks and estuaries that were important to the local recreation fish for species like redfish, speckled trout, and flounder. As a result, this action will also serve as a significant impact not only on local recreation fishing but also on the area’s tourism industry, such as charter fishing and supporting businesses.



The concerns with local anglers lie with the restriction of significant fishing in the areas that will be oyster farms. These farms would block fishermen from entering numerous creeks and other areas. NCDMF feels the need to protect the oyster farms from damages done by fishing and boat traffic. Many recreational fishermen have commented that they are not against the actual oyster farms, but the latest changes will restrict anglers from prime fishing spots and limit their fishing location options. This comes at a time when the state’s 2023 spring flounder season was canceled for the recreational fishermen but leaving the commercial season open. 2022 fall flounder season was limited to only 30 days and now the NC Division of Marine Fisheries is holding public hearings on potential changes to the state’s speckled trout fishing regulations. These latest actions are limited to Pender County, NC, for now, however the state is considering offering the same leasing program to commercial oyster farm operations in Hyde County, located on the North Carolina Outer Banks. Public comment meetings are currently underway.

While most recreational anglers welcome the state’s oyster industry, many feel that allowing an expansion in oyster farms is at a time when the state’s recreational fishing resource is at a historic low. Many are concerned that the biggest issue lies with the NCDMF’s lack of ability to stop or even reverse the growing decline of the targeted recreational species and that the state has continued to ignore the real problems, only to place the bulk slowing or even recovery of the resource primary on the North Carolina recreational fishermen. Currently, North Carolina only employs less than 50 enforcement personnel to enforce the current regulations. Considering the geographic scope of the state’s resources, this level of enforcement is simply a drop in the bucket. The problem is compounded by the many fishermen applying for and receiving “commercial” fishing licenses each year but are not catching the fish for resale. This allows them to use commercial gear, taking advantage of higher catch limits and keep the catch for personal use. They can fish for the state’s summer flounder while the angler with a recreational license cannot. Yet another example of the state’s lack of enforcement.

Today the North Carolina Division of Marine Fisheries continues to fail our state’s fishing public, both recreational and commercial. Where and when will it end?

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Mar 25, 2023 15:20:59   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
Gordon wrote:
Got this email today. The article is worth reading especially if you are from NC.

This is part 2 of a 3 part series of posts on the declining status of North Carolina’s Coastal Fishing Resource. As you know, Saltwater Angler online magazine covers many aspects of saltwater fishing in numerous coastal states. We try to avoid focusing on any single state and minimize our opinions on current events or concerns. However, we feel that we would not be serving our valued readerships if we ignored issues that have a negative impact on recreational fishing. For that reason, we have opted to pursue the continuing events impacting North Carolina Fishing resources and the people that fish them. We will voice our opinion at times, but will always strive to be correct in our information and how it’s presented to you. We feel anything less would be a disservice to the people of North Carolina and its fishing enthusiasts. Today we consider ourselves the voice and information source of those that fish these wonderful waters of North Carolina.

Part 2 In a 2 Part Series

Recreational anglers of North Carolina have again been dealt another blow by the North Carolina Division of Marine Fisheries. This is the second of 3 changes in the state’s management of our saltwater fishing resources that has a direct hit on recreational fishermen. Recently the NCDMV approved a program that allows the leasing of oyster farms in Pender County, NC. This area is a popular fishing location just north of Wilmington, NC, more well known as Topsail Island Surf City.























In the past, oyster farms have had little impact on the locals in the Topsail Island area as well as other North Carolina locations. However, a few months ago it was announced that North Carolina would make leases available to commercial oyster farms in the area. It was then discovered that the leased farm areas would not only impact a significant part of Topsail Island waters, it would also restrict fishing in a number of the area creeks and estuaries that were important to the local recreation fish for species like redfish, speckled trout, and flounder. As a result, this action will also serve as a significant impact not only on local recreation fishing but also on the area’s tourism industry, such as charter fishing and supporting businesses.



The concerns with local anglers lie with the restriction of significant fishing in the areas that will be oyster farms. These farms would block fishermen from entering numerous creeks and other areas. NCDMF feels the need to protect the oyster farms from damages done by fishing and boat traffic. Many recreational fishermen have commented that they are not against the actual oyster farms, but the latest changes will restrict anglers from prime fishing spots and limit their fishing location options. This comes at a time when the state’s 2023 spring flounder season was canceled for the recreational fishermen but leaving the commercial season open. 2022 fall flounder season was limited to only 30 days and now the NC Division of Marine Fisheries is holding public hearings on potential changes to the state’s speckled trout fishing regulations. These latest actions are limited to Pender County, NC, for now, however the state is considering offering the same leasing program to commercial oyster farm operations in Hyde County, located on the North Carolina Outer Banks. Public comment meetings are currently underway.

While most recreational anglers welcome the state’s oyster industry, many feel that allowing an expansion in oyster farms is at a time when the state’s recreational fishing resource is at a historic low. Many are concerned that the biggest issue lies with the NCDMF’s lack of ability to stop or even reverse the growing decline of the targeted recreational species and that the state has continued to ignore the real problems, only to place the bulk slowing or even recovery of the resource primary on the North Carolina recreational fishermen. Currently, North Carolina only employs less than 50 enforcement personnel to enforce the current regulations. Considering the geographic scope of the state’s resources, this level of enforcement is simply a drop in the bucket. The problem is compounded by the many fishermen applying for and receiving “commercial” fishing licenses each year but are not catching the fish for resale. This allows them to use commercial gear, taking advantage of higher catch limits and keep the catch for personal use. They can fish for the state’s summer flounder while the angler with a recreational license cannot. Yet another example of the state’s lack of enforcement.

Today the North Carolina Division of Marine Fisheries continues to fail our state’s fishing public, both recreational and commercial. Where and when will it end?
Got this email today. The article is worth reading... (show quote)


That sounds like the NC recreational guy's are getting the shaft Gordon. Not that it's unusual along the entire Atlantic coast.
We have lost many battles up here as well, when the commercial entities bribe the governing bodies to get their way. Do the recreational guy's have a lobbying group down there to speak for them? Sometimes only publicising the millions of dollars lost, and jobs lost in the recreational boating and fishing industries, will turn the tide in their favor. Good Luck to them, it won't be an easy battle.

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Mar 25, 2023 20:45:54   #
FourchonLa. Loc: Fourchon Louisiana, South Louisiana
 
Fredfish wrote:
That sounds like the NC recreational guy's are getting the shaft Gordon. Not that it's unusual along the entire Atlantic coast.
We have lost many battles up here as well, when the commercial entities bribe the governing bodies to get their way. Do the recreational guy's have a lobbying group down there to speak for them? Sometimes only publicising the millions of dollars lost, and jobs lost in the recreational boating and fishing industries, will turn the tide in their favor. Good Luck to them, it won't be an easy battle.
That sounds like the NC recreational guy's are get... (show quote)


It worked for us after many representative changes via the voting booth. Can’t count how many emails I’ve sent or meetings I’ve attended. Still a member 30+ years later.

https://ccanc.org/get-involved/

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Mar 25, 2023 21:35:32   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
FourchonLa. wrote:
It worked for us after many representative changes via the voting booth. Can’t count how many emails I’ve sent or meetings I’ve attended. Still a member 30+ years later.

https://ccanc.org/get-involved/


That's the problem Four, people can't be bothered to get involved....

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Mar 25, 2023 23:02:34   #
FourchonLa. Loc: Fourchon Louisiana, South Louisiana
 
Fredfish wrote:
That's the problem Four, people can't be bothered to get involved....


It’ll only get worse if they don’t. It was a long road for us but worth it. If all you attain is a level playing field, it’s worth the fight.

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Mar 25, 2023 23:12:24   #
Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.
 
FourchonLa. wrote:
It’ll only get worse if they don’t. It was a long road for us but worth it. If all you attain is a level playing field, it’s worth the fight.


We can't even get the ASMFC to go by their own numbers, on the commercial Striper harvests. It's ridicules.
I'm gonna call it a night brother, I'll catch you tomorrow.

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Mar 25, 2023 23:14:21   #
FourchonLa. Loc: Fourchon Louisiana, South Louisiana
 
Fredfish wrote:
We can't even get the ASMFC to go by their own numbers, on the commercial Striper harvests. It's ridicules.
I'm gonna call it a night brother, I'll catch you tomorrow.


Good night friend.

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Mar 26, 2023 09:55:15   #
kandydisbar Loc: West Orange, NJ
 
Fredfish wrote:
That sounds like the NC recreational guy's are getting the shaft Gordon. Not that it's unusual along the entire Atlantic coast.
We have lost many battles up here as well, when the commercial entities bribe the governing bodies to get their way. Do the recreational guy's have a lobbying group down there to speak for them? Sometimes only publicising the millions of dollars lost, and jobs lost in the recreational boating and fishing industries, will turn the tide in their favor. Good Luck to them, it won't be an easy battle.
That sounds like the NC recreational guy's are get... (show quote)


I remember over five years ago when we stayed on OBX and tried fishing, the pickens were almost nonexistent. locals were telling us the commercial guys were allowed to come up to 20 from the beach to fish and clean everything out. Want to see what Troy says about this. I believe he is in TopSail where they're going to do this.

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Mar 26, 2023 13:49:08   #
USAF Major Loc: Sea Bright, NJ
 
Commercial fisheries have well paid, excellent lobbyists. Sport anglers are unorganized and don't keep their legislators informed of their interests as a group.

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Mar 26, 2023 18:06:09   #
Captain
 
You hit the nail on the head. Member of CCA here if FL. Belong to one of the largest fishing clubs around with almost 800 members. Less then 5% support CCA which is the only voice we have. They complain a lot but will not put up $35 to fund the sportsman’s voice. It’s all we have. HA, don’t get me started.
One days trip, shrimp $30, chum $32, frozen Squid $30, frozen cigar minnows $40, ice machine was $2300 installed, twin 300hp fuel $1000 plus, food, water, snacks, rods, reels, just lined up two new reels with500 yards of braid each. And I’m the only one of six on the boat supporting CCA. YET, everyone complains season close for sportfishing, open for commercial. Same here.

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