Important Daiwa Baitcaster Information: With several threads the last few weeks about baitcasting reels I want to share some information about Daiwa baitcasters that have the MagForce...

NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA

With several threads the last few weeks about baitcasting reels I want to share some information about Daiwa baitcasters that have the MagForce Z Anti-backlash system. With all the supply chain shortages from Covid, I wound up purchasing a Daiwa Tatula reel. The documentation that came with the reel said the spool was centered at the factory and you could use the knob always known to me as the tension knob to adjust the spool left or right from center. It was very confusing to me as I always used this knob to adjust the speed my lure would drop when I released the spool for casting. Over the years when I tied on a new lure. I would adjust the tension knob until it would slightly slow down the speed of the drop. Then I would use the magnetic brake adjustment for backlash free casting. I wound up using this same method with my Tatula and although there was nothing remarkable when casting, it did a decent enough job. Later I bought an 8 foot rod to throw swim and glide baits with and for the same reason I bought the Tatula, I wound up buying a Daiwa Lexa reel to put on the pole. I did my usual adjustments and man oh man, was I ever disappointed with the casting distance on the Lexa! Three, four and even five ounce baits getting pitiful distance. Supposedly the Lexa was a very popular reel for throwing big baits and this made no sense to me until I happened across a YouTube video that explained how Daiwa's MagForce Z works.
Most reels use a linear magnetic braking system that applies the same magnetic force on the spool over the entire cast. The MagForce Z is a dynamic braking system in that it applies the greatest magnetic force to the spool when it is turning the fastest (when you would need it the most to prevent a backlash) during a cast and as the spool slows down, less magnetic force is applied (when you need it the least to prevent a backlash). The key to make this possible is from the centrifugal force of the spinning spool. When it is spinning at its fastest the spool moves towards the magnets and as it slows down returns to the center of the reel. The external magnetic brake adjustment has 21 adjustments for fine tuning your cast without a backlash. I realized that from the way I adjusted the tension knob that I was pushing the spool off center and preventing the anti-backlash system from working the way it was designed. Next time on the water I backed off on the tension knob allowing my lure to free fall when I released the bail. On the Tatula. my casting distance doubled! Lew's, Abu Garcia and a low end Shimano that I use cannot get the distance of the Tatula. The Lexa? Tripled my distance with those big baits. And the amazing thing is how little backlash I have to deal with during a full day on the water. Sorry this was so long but I was just reading a review on Fuego where the customer was irate! I can't cast this reel across my front yard! I'd give it a zero if I could! I've used baitcasters for years and I can't believe how worthless this reel is. Poor guy, little did he know that he was returning what may well be one of the smoothest, best casting reels he'll ever own. So I thought my lesson learned might help out a friend or two on the stage.

OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin

NoCal Steve wrote:

With several threads the last few weeks about baitcasting reels I want to share some information about Daiwa baitcasters that have the MagForce Z Anti-backlash system. With all the supply chain shortages from Covid, I wound up purchasing a Daiwa Tatula reel. The documentation that came with the reel said the spool was centered at the factory and you could use the knob always known to me as the tension knob to adjust the spool left or right from center. It was very confusing to me as I always used this knob to adjust the speed my lure would drop when I released the spool for casting. Over the years when I tied on a new lure. I would adjust the tension knob until it would slightly slow down the speed of the drop. Then I would use the magnetic brake adjustment for backlash free casting. I wound up using this same method with my Tatula and although there was nothing remarkable when casting, it did a decent enough job. Later I bought an 8 foot rod to throw swim and glide baits with and for the same reason I bought the Tatula, I wound up buying a Daiwa Lexa reel to put on the pole. I did my usual adjustments and man oh man, was I ever disappointed with the casting distance on the Lexa! Three, four and even five ounce baits getting pitiful distance. Supposedly the Lexa was a very popular reel for throwing big baits and this made no sense to me until I happened across a YouTube video that explained how Daiwa's MagForce Z works.
Most reels use a linear magnetic braking system that applies the same magnetic force on the spool over the entire cast. The MagForce Z is a dynamic braking system in that it applies the greatest magnetic force to the spool when it is turning the fastest (when you would need it the most to prevent a backlash) during a cast and as the spool slows down, less magnetic force is applied (when you need it the least to prevent a backlash). The key to make this possible is from the centrifugal force of the spinning spool. When it is spinning at its fastest the spool moves towards the magnets and as it slows down returns to the center of the reel. The external magnetic brake adjustment has 21 adjustments for fine tuning your cast without a backlash. I realized that from the way I adjusted the tension knob that I was pushing the spool off center and preventing the anti-backlash system from working the way it was designed. Next time on the water I backed off on the tension knob allowing my lure to free fall when I released the bail. On the Tatula. my casting distance doubled! Lew's, Abu Garcia and a low end Shimano that I use cannot get the distance of the Tatula. The Lexa? Tripled my distance with those big baits. And the amazing thing is how little backlash I have to deal with during a full day on the water. Sorry this was so long but I was just reading a review on Fuego where the customer was irate! I can't cast this reel across my front yard! I'd give it a zero if I could! I've used baitcasters for years and I can't believe how worthless this reel is. Poor guy, little did he know that he was returning what may well be one of the smoothest, best casting reels he'll ever own. So I thought my lesson learned might help out a friend or two on the stage.

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Great post Steve, this may help many members on the use of their bait casting reels. What worked 25 years ago…doesn’t work today.
I guess the lesson is to read the directions and if there is any doubt…watch the videos whenever possible.

Flytier Loc: Wilmington Delaware

Great post and very clearly explained. I guess you can't just do it the way we always did. Thank you.

Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.

NoCal Steve wrote:

With several threads the last few weeks about baitcasting reels I want to share some information about Daiwa baitcasters that have the MagForce Z Anti-backlash system. With all the supply chain shortages from Covid, I wound up purchasing a Daiwa Tatula reel. The documentation that came with the reel said the spool was centered at the factory and you could use the knob always known to me as the tension knob to adjust the spool left or right from center. It was very confusing to me as I always used this knob to adjust the speed my lure would drop when I released the spool for casting. Over the years when I tied on a new lure. I would adjust the tension knob until it would slightly slow down the speed of the drop. Then I would use the magnetic brake adjustment for backlash free casting. I wound up using this same method with my Tatula and although there was nothing remarkable when casting, it did a decent enough job. Later I bought an 8 foot rod to throw swim and glide baits with and for the same reason I bought the Tatula, I wound up buying a Daiwa Lexa reel to put on the pole. I did my usual adjustments and man oh man, was I ever disappointed with the casting distance on the Lexa! Three, four and even five ounce baits getting pitiful distance. Supposedly the Lexa was a very popular reel for throwing big baits and this made no sense to me until I happened across a YouTube video that explained how Daiwa's MagForce Z works.
Most reels use a linear magnetic braking system that applies the same magnetic force on the spool over the entire cast. The MagForce Z is a dynamic braking system in that it applies the greatest magnetic force to the spool when it is turning the fastest (when you would need it the most to prevent a backlash) during a cast and as the spool slows down, less magnetic force is applied (when you need it the least to prevent a backlash). The key to make this possible is from the centrifugal force of the spinning spool. When it is spinning at its fastest the spool moves towards the magnets and as it slows down returns to the center of the reel. The external magnetic brake adjustment has 21 adjustments for fine tuning your cast without a backlash. I realized that from the way I adjusted the tension knob that I was pushing the spool off center and preventing the anti-backlash system from working the way it was designed. Next time on the water I backed off on the tension knob allowing my lure to free fall when I released the bail. On the Tatula. my casting distance doubled! Lew's, Abu Garcia and a low end Shimano that I use cannot get the distance of the Tatula. The Lexa? Tripled my distance with those big baits. And the amazing thing is how little backlash I have to deal with during a full day on the water. Sorry this was so long but I was just reading a review on Fuego where the customer was irate! I can't cast this reel across my front yard! I'd give it a zero if I could! I've used baitcasters for years and I can't believe how worthless this reel is. Poor guy, little did he know that he was returning what may well be one of the smoothest, best casting reels he'll ever own. So I thought my lesson learned might help out a friend or two on the stage.

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Thanks Steve. I'll be picking up a Tatula during the winter, to set-up a heavy stick. I'm planning on it for Froggin', big baits, and an occasional A-rig. I know I'd be ignoring the directions, and trying to set it up "Old School ", and getting pi$$ed off in the process. I'm gonna save your post for further reference. Thanks again buddy.

OJdidit Loc: Oak Creek Wisconsin

Fredfish wrote:

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Old habits die hard Fred! 😂
What really doesn’t help is bad translations to English which we are supposed to follow…

Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.

OJdidit wrote:

Old habits die hard Fred! 😂
What really doesn’t help is bad translations to English which we are supposed to follow…

You've got that right John. Remember when they were written in English, and then translated into other languages.?

Jeremy Loc: America

NoCal Steve wrote:

With several threads the last few weeks about baitcasting reels I want to share some information about Daiwa baitcasters that have the MagForce Z Anti-backlash system. With all the supply chain shortages from Covid, I wound up purchasing a Daiwa Tatula reel. The documentation that came with the reel said the spool was centered at the factory and you could use the knob always known to me as the tension knob to adjust the spool left or right from center. It was very confusing to me as I always used this knob to adjust the speed my lure would drop when I released the spool for casting. Over the years when I tied on a new lure. I would adjust the tension knob until it would slightly slow down the speed of the drop. Then I would use the magnetic brake adjustment for backlash free casting. I wound up using this same method with my Tatula and although there was nothing remarkable when casting, it did a decent enough job. Later I bought an 8 foot rod to throw swim and glide baits with and for the same reason I bought the Tatula, I wound up buying a Daiwa Lexa reel to put on the pole. I did my usual adjustments and man oh man, was I ever disappointed with the casting distance on the Lexa! Three, four and even five ounce baits getting pitiful distance. Supposedly the Lexa was a very popular reel for throwing big baits and this made no sense to me until I happened across a YouTube video that explained how Daiwa's MagForce Z works.
Most reels use a linear magnetic braking system that applies the same magnetic force on the spool over the entire cast. The MagForce Z is a dynamic braking system in that it applies the greatest magnetic force to the spool when it is turning the fastest (when you would need it the most to prevent a backlash) during a cast and as the spool slows down, less magnetic force is applied (when you need it the least to prevent a backlash). The key to make this possible is from the centrifugal force of the spinning spool. When it is spinning at its fastest the spool moves towards the magnets and as it slows down returns to the center of the reel. The external magnetic brake adjustment has 21 adjustments for fine tuning your cast without a backlash. I realized that from the way I adjusted the tension knob that I was pushing the spool off center and preventing the anti-backlash system from working the way it was designed. Next time on the water I backed off on the tension knob allowing my lure to free fall when I released the bail. On the Tatula. my casting distance doubled! Lew's, Abu Garcia and a low end Shimano that I use cannot get the distance of the Tatula. The Lexa? Tripled my distance with those big baits. And the amazing thing is how little backlash I have to deal with during a full day on the water. Sorry this was so long but I was just reading a review on Fuego where the customer was irate! I can't cast this reel across my front yard! I'd give it a zero if I could! I've used baitcasters for years and I can't believe how worthless this reel is. Poor guy, little did he know that he was returning what may well be one of the smoothest, best casting reels he'll ever own. So I thought my lesson learned might help out a friend or two on the stage.

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You gotta get a Bluetooth Reel. Just say Alexa drop my bait to 40’ but do not backlash. Then Alexa drop his bait on other side of boat but please do backlash after 70’

NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA

Fredfish wrote:

Thanks Steve. I'll be picking up a Tatula during t... (show quote)

Thanks Fred. If I only help one person it's worth the time. You will not regret the Tatula purchase!

NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA

OJdidit wrote:

Old habits die hard Fred! 😂
What really doesn’t help is bad translations to English which we are supposed to follow…

OJ...you are 100% correct. I can't believe how poorly the documentation that comes with the reel is written. I just bought a Fuego yesterday and it was a little better than what came with the Tatula I bought 2 years ago. Bottom line though is that it still falls short.

NoCal Steve Loc: Dunnigan, CA

Jeremy wrote:

You gotta get a Bluetooth Reel. Just say Alexa drop my bait to 40’ but do not backlash. Then Alexa drop his bait on other side of boat but please do backlash after 70’

Jeremy... who knows??? Maybe there will be a day when my grandson can sit on his couch, drink beer, and fish via remote control. Lol. If so, glad it will be after my time!

HenryG Loc: Falmouth Cape Cod Massachusetts

NoCal Steve wrote:

With several threads the last few weeks about baitcasting reels I want to share some information about Daiwa baitcasters that have the MagForce Z Anti-backlash system. With all the supply chain shortages from Covid, I wound up purchasing a Daiwa Tatula reel. The documentation that came with the reel said the spool was centered at the factory and you could use the knob always known to me as the tension knob to adjust the spool left or right from center. It was very confusing to me as I always used this knob to adjust the speed my lure would drop when I released the spool for casting. Over the years when I tied on a new lure. I would adjust the tension knob until it would slightly slow down the speed of the drop. Then I would use the magnetic brake adjustment for backlash free casting. I wound up using this same method with my Tatula and although there was nothing remarkable when casting, it did a decent enough job. Later I bought an 8 foot rod to throw swim and glide baits with and for the same reason I bought the Tatula, I wound up buying a Daiwa Lexa reel to put on the pole. I did my usual adjustments and man oh man, was I ever disappointed with the casting distance on the Lexa! Three, four and even five ounce baits getting pitiful distance. Supposedly the Lexa was a very popular reel for throwing big baits and this made no sense to me until I happened across a YouTube video that explained how Daiwa's MagForce Z works.
Most reels use a linear magnetic braking system that applies the same magnetic force on the spool over the entire cast. The MagForce Z is a dynamic braking system in that it applies the greatest magnetic force to the spool when it is turning the fastest (when you would need it the most to prevent a backlash) during a cast and as the spool slows down, less magnetic force is applied (when you need it the least to prevent a backlash). The key to make this possible is from the centrifugal force of the spinning spool. When it is spinning at its fastest the spool moves towards the magnets and as it slows down returns to the center of the reel. The external magnetic brake adjustment has 21 adjustments for fine tuning your cast without a backlash. I realized that from the way I adjusted the tension knob that I was pushing the spool off center and preventing the anti-backlash system from working the way it was designed. Next time on the water I backed off on the tension knob allowing my lure to free fall when I released the bail. On the Tatula. my casting distance doubled! Lew's, Abu Garcia and a low end Shimano that I use cannot get the distance of the Tatula. The Lexa? Tripled my distance with those big baits. And the amazing thing is how little backlash I have to deal with during a full day on the water. Sorry this was so long but I was just reading a review on Fuego where the customer was irate! I can't cast this reel across my front yard! I'd give it a zero if I could! I've used baitcasters for years and I can't believe how worthless this reel is. Poor guy, little did he know that he was returning what may well be one of the smoothest, best casting reels he'll ever own. So I thought my lesson learned might help out a friend or two on the stage.

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I love mine

HenryG Loc: Falmouth Cape Cod Massachusetts

Fredfish wrote:

Thanks Steve. I'll be picking up a Tatula during t... (show quote)

Fred when you get your reel in the instructions that come with the reel it has a section with the photograph of the side of the reel ( the only real photo in the instructions) that gives you the info on adjusting the Magforce-Z Anti- Backlash Control really the only thing you have to read your going to love this reel 👍🙂👍

Fredfish Loc: Prospect CT.

HenryG wrote:

Fred when you get your reel in the instructions that come with the reel it has a section with the photograph of the side of the reel ( the only real photo in the instructions) that gives you the info on adjusting the Magforce-Z Anti- Backlash Control really the only thing you have to read your going to love this reel 👍🙂👍

Thanks Henry. I've bookmarked this thread so I can find it again when the time comes.

HenryG Loc: Falmouth Cape Cod Massachusetts

Fredfish wrote:

Thanks Henry. I've bookmarked this thread so I can find it again when the time comes.

😎👍

Andy cacciatori Loc: Modesto cal.

NoCal Steve wrote:

With several threads the last few weeks about baitcasting reels I want to share some information about Daiwa baitcasters that have the MagForce Z Anti-backlash system. With all the supply chain shortages from Covid, I wound up purchasing a Daiwa Tatula reel. The documentation that came with the reel said the spool was centered at the factory and you could use the knob always known to me as the tension knob to adjust the spool left or right from center. It was very confusing to me as I always used this knob to adjust the speed my lure would drop when I released the spool for casting. Over the years when I tied on a new lure. I would adjust the tension knob until it would slightly slow down the speed of the drop. Then I would use the magnetic brake adjustment for backlash free casting. I wound up using this same method with my Tatula and although there was nothing remarkable when casting, it did a decent enough job. Later I bought an 8 foot rod to throw swim and glide baits with and for the same reason I bought the Tatula, I wound up buying a Daiwa Lexa reel to put on the pole. I did my usual adjustments and man oh man, was I ever disappointed with the casting distance on the Lexa! Three, four and even five ounce baits getting pitiful distance. Supposedly the Lexa was a very popular reel for throwing big baits and this made no sense to me until I happened across a YouTube video that explained how Daiwa's MagForce Z works.
Most reels use a linear magnetic braking system that applies the same magnetic force on the spool over the entire cast. The MagForce Z is a dynamic braking system in that it applies the greatest magnetic force to the spool when it is turning the fastest (when you would need it the most to prevent a backlash) during a cast and as the spool slows down, less magnetic force is applied (when you need it the least to prevent a backlash). The key to make this possible is from the centrifugal force of the spinning spool. When it is spinning at its fastest the spool moves towards the magnets and as it slows down returns to the center of the reel. The external magnetic brake adjustment has 21 adjustments for fine tuning your cast without a backlash. I realized that from the way I adjusted the tension knob that I was pushing the spool off center and preventing the anti-backlash system from working the way it was designed. Next time on the water I backed off on the tension knob allowing my lure to free fall when I released the bail. On the Tatula. my casting distance doubled! Lew's, Abu Garcia and a low end Shimano that I use cannot get the distance of the Tatula. The Lexa? Tripled my distance with those big baits. And the amazing thing is how little backlash I have to deal with during a full day on the water. Sorry this was so long but I was just reading a review on Fuego where the customer was irate! I can't cast this reel across my front yard! I'd give it a zero if I could! I've used baitcasters for years and I can't believe how worthless this reel is. Poor guy, little did he know that he was returning what may well be one of the smoothest, best casting reels he'll ever own. So I thought my lesson learned might help out a friend or two on the stage.

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Thanks Steve
I'll be getting a new baitcaster this spring and gheck it out ! I wait for the Spring sale at Bass Pro
And when you turn in a old reel or pole you get $ 5 to 100.oo off depending on how much the pole or reel cost, been doing it for the last 5yrs. And the wife tells the kids to to send me for my B day and Christmas BassPro grif cards.
Ever year I up grade my rods and reels.
I'll hit the garage sells when I see fishing equipment buy a cheap rod or reel or both and when the starts in March I'm there when the open the doors 🚪 last year I spent $ 600.00 on a rod and reel , and it only cost me out of pocket $ 75.00!!
After the kids gift cards.
Starts in the Spring.
A hell of a deal.
Once again thanks again for the information.
Good fishing 🎣 it's duck season now for me I'll do alittle fishing.
God bless you